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badbadboy

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The Black Book of Communism: Crimes, Terror, Repression.

Add;

Great Leap Forward (45 million)
Massive starvation and work camp deaths in Russian gulags
Cultural Revolution
East Berlin Purges
East Germany Purges
Soviet Bloc Purges before the wars
Proxy war deaths in Korea, Vietnam, Thailand, Cambodia.
Greece resistance deaths to communism
So 7 million killed by German Nazis 1939 to 1945 get a pass? Or are you part of the group calling fake news on the holocaust?

You are blaming the deaths from wars in Korea, Vietnam and Eastern Bloc countries on Liberals? Seems to me they were communists who called themselves democratic socialists or something to that effect.

New math wtf.

Oh and for the record, Harper is to blame for taxpayers having to pay the $10M for Kahdr. His Govt was instructed by SCC to request his feeedom and sat on their hands leaving it to the Liberals to do the cleanup post election.
 

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You are blaming the deaths from wars in Korea, Vietnam and Eastern Bloc countries on Liberals? Seems to me they were communists who called themselves democratic socialists or something to that effect.

New math wtf.

Oh and for the record, Harper is to blame for taxpayers having to pay the $10M for Kahdr. His Govt was instructed by SCC to request his feeedom and sat on their hands leaving it to the Liberals to do the cleanup post election.
Modern liberalism is militant and dangerous just like communism. While not all liberals are communists, all Communists are liberals.

People who died for causes that are spawned by Communists are still liberal-based deaths.

Harper's government wanted people like Khadr stripped of citizenship. The current government repealed it so they had to pay.
 
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That's pure comedy, that. Shall we look at how liberal China is?
I think he means modern Liberals (and not classical liberals). Modern liberals have shifted left from classical liberalism, to include many socialist tenancies, and believe in censorship and suppression of individual rights and liberties for the greater good of the group. Identity politics is a slow painful death.
 

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That's pure comedy, that. Shall we look at how liberal China is?
Yes. Let's look at how Liberal China's communism was:

- It was and is illegal to say whatever you want. Anything against state agenda is death or punishment by public shaming. (State Censorship)
- Land was taken from the wealthy and distributed to the poor (Wealth redistribution)
- Wealth was taken from the rich, and people with land were killed off in the cultural revolution (Class struggle)
- People were labeled into categories based on their pasts like origins, race, wealth, and status (Identity Poltics)
- A constant desire to quantitatively achieve equality (Equality of outcome)

Now let's look at modern liberal agendae:

- It is borderline illegal to say whatever you want regarding gender identity (I.E. Bill C16) or argue against most liberal discourse on equality. Anything against the public status quo on gender, race or patriarchy results in public shaming. (Civil Censorship)
- Revenue neutral carbon taxes, high marginal tax rates, and crap that Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez said about taxing the rich at 60 - 70% and distributing it to the poor (Wealth redistribution)
- Occupy Wallstreet - That the wealth should be taken from the 1% rich, put in prison and the poor shouldn't have to work so hard (Class struggle)
- A constant discourse and diatribe about patriarchy, gender gap in wages, lack of social mobility, black lives matter, and alt-right conservative/nationalist/nazis (Identity politics)
- A cabinet with the same number of men and women, regardless of ability (Equality of outcome)

The liberals of today will be the Nazis of tomorrow. It's fucking terrifying.
 
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nightswhisper

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I think he means modern Liberals (and not classical liberals). Modern liberals have shifted left from classical liberalism, to include many socialist tenancies, and believe in censorship and suppression of individual rights and liberties for the greater good of the group. Identity politics is a slow painful death.
Abso-fucking-lutely on point.
 

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I think you guys need to take an introductory course in political science to get an understanding of the very basic terms you are misusing. Or at least just open the first few pages of any introductory text on political ideology - you will do yourself a favour because you have absolutely no idea about the terms you are using, so your arguments are completely nonsensical. At present it basically sounds like you are red green colour blind as far as being able to identify basic ideology.
 

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I think you guys need to take an introductory course in political science to get an understanding of the very basic terms you are misusing. Or at least just open the first few pages of any introductory text on political ideology - you will do yourself a favour because you have absolutely no idea about the terms you are using, so your arguments are completely nonsensical. At present it basically sounds like you are red green colour blind as far as being able to identify basic ideology.
How very post-modernist, getting stuck on semantics again.
 

dumass

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How very post-modernist, getting stuck on semantics again.
Ze (zer) is just flustered about losing face, and going down the SJW path of slander and censorship when Zis' facts don't hold any water. (Sorry, i don't know Zis' pronoun, and if i mistake ze as a woman, i am now criminally liable under Bill C-16). Because according to zer Liberals are Right of center, and not left wing socialists who like to control our free speech :rolleyes:. The Soy must be strong with this one because i sense lots of phyto-estrogenic tenancies. maybe Ze can open Zis eyes to how the real world works and the dangers of socialism and communism, because Ze has absolutely no idea about the ideologies Ze is speaking about, so Zis arguments are completely nonsensical. At present it basically sounds like Zis needs a compass because Ze doesn't know whether the present liberal party is Left, Right, north, on the moon, or up Zis' arse.

A little lesson for you - Liberals aren't left, they are centre to right!
I enjoy simple teaching moments also:
"The Liberals just shifted the centre further left" (https://torontosun.com/2016/03/25/t...left/wcm/5002c35b-ab69-42a3-9b5e-1d11c5f32425)

Oh, when you were talking about needing to take an introductory course in political science to get an understanding of the very basic terms being mis-used, and doing a favour because you have absolutely no idea about the terms you are using, so your arguments are completely nonsensical, and sounding red green colour blind as far as being able to identify basic ideology, you must have been talking about yourself right? That course looked like done you noo good and plain ol' confused you with determining left, right, up, down, north, south, and maybe other 'orientations' also- too late to ask for a refund?
 
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Ze (zer) is just flustered about losing face, and going down the SJW path of slander and censorship when Zis' facts don't hold any water. (Sorry, i don't know Zis' pronoun, and if i mistake ze as a woman, i am now criminally liable under Bill C-16). Because according to zer Liberals are Right of center, and not left wing socialists who like to control our free speech :rolleyes:. The Soy must be strong with this one because i sense lots of phyto-estrogenic tenancies. maybe Ze can open Zis eyes to how the real world works and the dangers of socialism and communism, because Ze has absolutely no idea about the ideologies Ze is speaking about, so Zis arguments are completely nonsensical. At present it basically sounds like Zis needs a compass because Ze doesn't know whether the present liberal party is Left, Right, north, on the moon, or up Zis' arse.



I enjoy simple teaching moments also:
"The Liberals just shifted the centre further left" (https://torontosun.com/2016/03/25/t...left/wcm/5002c35b-ab69-42a3-9b5e-1d11c5f32425)

Oh, when you were talking about needing to take an introductory course in political science to get an understanding of the very basic terms being mis-used, and doing a favour because you have absolutely no idea about the terms you are using, so your arguments are completely nonsensical, and sounding red green colour blind as far as being able to identify basic ideology, you must have been talking about yourself right? That course looked like done you noo good and plain ol' confused you with determining left, right, up, down, north, south, and maybe other 'orientations' also- too late to ask for a refund?
Sweet! Another editorial.
 

dumass

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Yep, just make sure you don't read it upside-down as you have during your Poly-Sci courses! Glad to see it helped you understand all the basic terms you are using.

 

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Sure glad the Liberals are finally pulling the plug on the Conservative procured Phoenix pay system. Just another example of the legacy of Conservative ineptitude.
 

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Sure glad the Liberals are finally pulling the plug on the Conservative procured Phoenix pay system. Just another example of the legacy of Conservative ineptitude.
Yes, and only in the short period of 3 1/2 years. Maybe they can get a volume discount on QuickBooks Payroll?
 

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Sure glad the Liberals are finally pulling the plug on the Conservative procured Phoenix pay system. Just another example of the legacy of Conservative ineptitude.
you mean like the inept Liberals to actually implement it?

the conservatives didn't implement it, the started it, but the gov't didn't start actually using it until the Liberals were in power, in 2016

they had the chance to kill it, they didn't

there was a report, not to mention grumblings by gov't employees, to kill it, they ignored that and implemented it anyway
 

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I self identify as a socially progressive, social democratic, globalist and environmentalist. I am progressive because I believe in freedom and don't support inequality, discrimination or judgement based on gender, sexuality, ethnicity, race, age or religious/spiritual belief (so actually very close to true social libertarianism, except I believe in the state limiting, controlling and subverting offence and violence whether through speech, acts of violence or potential acts of violence like gun possession). I am a social democrat because I believe in a democracy thats primary purpose is to elect a government that supports the needs of its citizenary over individual desires and promotes economic equality (a social welfare state). I am a globalist because I believe as technology has expanded our 'reach' or 'range, the idea of the nation state has become antiquated, and our responsibility must reflect that increased connection and relationship to the whole world (examples would be that I believe in environmental and humanitarian responsibility including the free flow of refugees over the individual need of Canada). I am an environmentalist because I put the needs of the environment over the desires of the economy (so I don't support consumptionism or support the recent NEB ruling that simply states that the economic interest of the pipeline expansion supercedes the potential catastrophic damage a marine spill would create).
so you basically don't believe in reality :jaded:

gun possession isn't a violent act

anymore than owning a knife or bat is

promoting equality through a social welfare state isn't the same as a system where everyone has the same opportunity

where those that need a hand up receive one, which is a very small part of any society

you're suggesting just giving people things/money cause they exist

which runs counter to basic human behaviour

your delusions spouting Trudeau's post national state, again, runs against basic human behaviour/reality

or haven't you been paying attention to history/the here and now

people are selfish/territorial/insatiable

they don't like to share, history repeatably proves that out

it continues today, everywhere

don't support consumption, lol

as long as it's someone else giving it up, right?

why do you own a device that enables you to connect to the internet?

you don't own anything with oil in it?

you don't own a car?

a tv?

a radio?

clothes?

a home?

toilet?

shower?

don't go to the doctor?

never went to school?

lol

and all that tech? making your make believe world

it runs on Unicorn farts? was developed with Unicorn farts? lol

love the one about letting people wander anywhere in the world

more people=more carbon

if you really cared about the environment

you'd be supporting the exact opposite

letting them stay where they are, the only problem with them is they live in a overpopulated area where resources are scarce

thought you were against consumption?

so you want them to move where they will be able to consume more? :jaw:


you're like all typical delusional LEFTISTS

you're unwilling to walk the talk

you spout off, like your hero Trudeau

so guess you're going to give up your house to a refugee

your car to the kidney car program

your computer/phone/tv/furniture/dangerous knives to goodwill

or you already have none of these things?

where should we send your mail?

3rd spruce on the right in the Great Bear Rain forest?
 

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Questioning my judgment wading into this but here we go...

promoting equality through a social welfare state isn't the same as a system where everyone has the same opportunity
In a system that has, in its history, explicitly not afforded the same opportunity to everyone, and thus has created a "starting point disparity" that its present day citizens have inherited from their ancestors, how would you reset the system to eliminate that unfairly-inherited advantage, so that each person has equal access to opportunities on their own merits rather than their inherited edge?

Analogy: if race car driving was a sport in which you could only inherit your car from your parents, and through unsportsmanlike business practices of their grandparents in the past, some families now have better cars than others (perhaps even the patents to what makes them better), how would you make the sport fair going forward?

The ones who were not "fortunate enough" to inherit the unfair advantage will have to work way harder to achieve the same result. That's not a fair sport.

So one solution is to break the patents and share the tech. Another is to preferentially fund the ones without the unfair advantage so that they can catch up.

Do you have a better idea that would fix the sport?

Or would you just say "tough, I'm keeping my advantage"? Would you be ok with others saying that if you were instead one of those that suffered at the hands of the ones who's grandparents, for lack of a better word, cheated?

Bonus round:

gun possession isn't a violent act
Would you be ok with incompetent and/or violent people being blocked from owning guns? If so, how would you identify them?
 

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Would you be ok with incompetent and/or violent people being blocked from owning guns? If so, how would you identify them?
They are already you have to complete a firearms training course and a thorough background check and be registered with the RCMP before they issue you a firearms permit. Its a good system the background check should easily out the violent and unstable, the RCMP has daily data updates and they will come for your guns if you have any violations.
 

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In the first page of this thread I wrote:

"The Liberals best chance of eeking out a win next election is if the NDP keep their lame duck leader and Mad Max manages to run a full suite of candidates in his startup, right wing conservative, party. If these 2 conditions are met, I think the Liberals will win the next election, though it may well be only a minority win."

It looks my perfect storm is coming true and I predict the Liberals will win this fall.

JD
 
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