Harper's law allowed the revocation of citizenship by birth for dual citizens. It wasn't just naturalised citizens that could be affected.
Canadian ISIS brides
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Because these things always start with shit so extreme it seems like a good idea. Who doesn't want to keep Canada safe from terrorists? But once you cross the line that it's ok to disallow a citizen to re-enter the country, it becomes up to the government to decide what is the barrier to entry and I don't like the sound of that. I don't think slippery slope arguments are strong points in a debate but I do think it applies in this case. How would you like to be disallowed to return because you pooned in Thailand?
If the courts are too lenient, then lobby for them to be stricter, don't disallow citizens to return to their home country. Also, maybe we should be looking at who we grant citizenship to and who we grant passports to.
Don't get me wrong. It's not like I support these folks but if they are Canadian, they are OUR problem, not someone else's.
Quite ridiculous position.
To my knowledge, there has never been a suggestion of ever not allowing Canadian citizens back into the country for any reason than in these cases.
This is not close to seeing Canadians convicted of crimes out-of-country not being allowed in. On the contrary, we have allowed Canadians convicted, sentenced and serving time for heinous crimes back into Canada to serve their time in Canadian prisons. ISIS is a one-off terrorist pheomenon we hopefully won't see again.
Going overseeas, and committing a crime is far diffrent than knowingly giving up your country, family, friends, job, lifestyle and freedoms to join an internationally-identified terrorist organization. Those that chose that twisted path should remain out of country. They said it was what they wanted.
??? The Harper thing I was referring to was a dual citizen who was threatened with having it revoked after some Greenpeace style activism while abroad.
They have been butchering themselves in their own countries for 2000 years.....now they want to immigrate to other countries and IMPORT that sentiment.
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Putting children in situations of destitution and extremism breeds more extremism.
Confiscate the children. Leave the parents.
Confiscate the children. Leave the parents.
It was suggested in this thread and that's what I was replying to. I am also under the assumption that they remain Canadian citizens.
If they have literally renounced their citizenship then fuck them, I'm with you. I just think if we allow our citizens to go out in the world and be pieces of shit, it is our responsibility to deal with them. I'm definitely not suggesting that they should be allowed back in without any consequences.
I love how you romanticize and trivialize being a criminal guilty of commiting heinous crimes! You should consider playing a Pharisee opposite Pontius Pilate in the your local church's Good Friday service! No really, your argument is that convincing!
"Romaticizing and trivializing heinous crimes". Now there's some cognitive distortion for you.
Oh! We could put them in special schools that double as residences! No way that'll breed resentment.
Wait twenty years and all their children become a secret cell in Canada USA Europe etc ,we won’t be effected cause all the bleeding hearts and us will be too senile or dead I agree with Sybian protect our homeland leave these women there they were old enough so why favour them just because they were woman shouldn’t they get the same treatment as the men that murdered and raped and pillaged
If you leave Canada to join a terrorist group you should lose your citizenship.
You have now become a danger to Canadian society
We also need to send illiegal immigrants back to whre they came from.
An illiegal immigrant dose not wnat to follow Canadian law.
Sancturay cities should be banned and not recieve any kind of government funding.
They are also braking Canadian Immigration Law.
Also the Canadians who went to southern USA to help stop people from crossing into USA
should also lose their citizenship.
You have now become a danger to Canadian society
We also need to send illiegal immigrants back to whre they came from.
An illiegal immigrant dose not wnat to follow Canadian law.
Sancturay cities should be banned and not recieve any kind of government funding.
They are also braking Canadian Immigration Law.
Also the Canadians who went to southern USA to help stop people from crossing into USA
should also lose their citizenship.
Its actually not as black and white as just leaving Canada and joining ISIS and regretting it. She was sort of groomed and catfished, and ended up marrying a militant and falling for their heroic rebellion storyline. She was a nurse and they told her they needed her skills to help the injured and sick, and as soon as she entered the country they grabbed and smuggled her. She met another one in a similar situation and hey both have been trying to escape for a year.
I know its hard to sympathize with someone who clearly lacked good judgment and has been beaten and raped while over there, but I think her coming back with a kid to raise some sort of secret sleeper agent cell is ridiculous and perhaps some leniency should be involved.
I know its hard to sympathize with someone who clearly lacked good judgment and has been beaten and raped while over there, but I think her coming back with a kid to raise some sort of secret sleeper agent cell is ridiculous and perhaps some leniency should be involved.
And how is this different than any other Canadian who has gone abroad to commit a crime? UN, Red Scorpions and Hell's Angels, even Swirly Face have all committed heinous crimes abroad and present a danger to Canadian citizens - there is never discussion about revoking their citizenship.
This continues to be just alt right and white nationalist rhetoric.
They are organized crime based here .....Not Terrorists killing women and children by burning them alive or beheading, for their different religious beliefs.
Give your head a shake Cowboy.
Those that you mention predominantly carry on their business within their own like-circle and against like-minded operations- basically other thugs, with occasionally some overflow into the civilian world and sometimes innocents get caught in the crossfire. Shit happens.
ISIS specifically targets innocents and civilians alike- pretty much anyone that doesn't fit their criteria- no one is safe from their agenda.
Not the same at all.
If they're the only true Muslims, and no threat, there should be plenty of Muslim countries falling all over themselves to take these poor women in.
Oh, wait, no they aren't because they see them as terrorists, too.
If ISIS hadn't been defeated, would they still be clamouring to come home, or still cheerleading for the team they decided to play for?
Oh, wait, no they aren't because they see them as terrorists, too.
If ISIS hadn't been defeated, would they still be clamouring to come home, or still cheerleading for the team they decided to play for?
