Does anyone still use the term Eurasian or North American. That pretty much covers two continents and what a surprise you may have when you open the door.
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When a provider asked you your ethnicity
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I think that VJ's points were based on culture and perhaps environment affecting behaviour- related to the commonly accepted ethnicities, perception of our own life experiences and historical criteria.
Fuck DNA- that's just breaking it all down to a sub-level. It doesn't need to have a scientific basis for it to be "real".
Lines on a map- although constantly moving and changing with the times- also delineate a set of standards that we choose to live by. That has real value to most.
And lines on a map are basically just extrapolations of the fence around one's property. Enter with respect and kindness and you will be welcomed. Fuck with me or mine at your own peril. My house, my rules and all that. Reality.
Faith can't be scientifically proven any more than love can- yet these are real to billions of people.
But I do get what you're saying about people's need to categorize and define to nth degree. The 411 section is a prime example of people splitting hairs to the point of devaluing an otherwise decent SP option because she might have a mole on her inner thigh, her left areola is 1/8" larger diameter than her right or she prefers McDonald's fries to BK's.
There are good and bad people in all races, countries, religions, etc. For whatever the reason we'll never have full acceptance of everyone/equality for everyone. Im sure we can all point to good and bad things of other and our own races. The shitty part is when you suffer for someone else's mistake. Just like if a guy/gay is rejected or dump by a person of a certain race they may never like that race again. So if you ask there person out and your the same race as their heart break but you get rejected because of that not because of your qualities.
Having a close black friend Ive seen how her gets treated when he's around me at certain places and been told how he gets treated when he's in similar places without me. Is that right no, will it change anytime soon most likely not but its the realities we live in despite being in more evolved times now then ever.
Having a close black friend Ive seen how her gets treated when he's around me at certain places and been told how he gets treated when he's in similar places without me. Is that right no, will it change anytime soon most likely not but its the realities we live in despite being in more evolved times now then ever.
When it comes to restrictions on race, I have seen it for Blacks and for Indians.
When it comes to restrictions on there being no blacks allowed it seems to be more or less due to racist and insecure pooners who hate to see SP's that take on black men. So these SP's cave in and put no blacks on their ads, one girl admitted to me once that she still sees them, but makes it a restriction cause some people get insecure.
When it comes to SP's not seeing Indians, I found that it varied. There was a couple who wouldn't see them as one girl was Indian herself and didn't want a friend or relative trying to book her, the other lady was white it had turned out she used to work with lots of members of that community and did not want to do sessions with people she knew personally. There was one SP who seemed to be outright racist when she talking about how she doesn't see Indian clients cause (according to her) they refuse to shower before a session. There could also be certain cultural attitudes that may make an SP uncomfortable, all stemmed from stereotypes or even a bad experience. I do recall one particular time when I saw a transgender SP (who I recognized from pictures of her ad) doing her grocery shopping. I didn't make eye contact, nor did I stick around and stare at her. I was a couple of meters over making my own purchase and this one older Indian fellow was staring her dead on from the opposite end of the isle, and not long after he walks right up to her, calls her by the name she goes by on LL, and started asking her about her day and if she needed a ride back after doing her shopping.
When it comes to restrictions on there being no blacks allowed it seems to be more or less due to racist and insecure pooners who hate to see SP's that take on black men. So these SP's cave in and put no blacks on their ads, one girl admitted to me once that she still sees them, but makes it a restriction cause some people get insecure.
When it comes to SP's not seeing Indians, I found that it varied. There was a couple who wouldn't see them as one girl was Indian herself and didn't want a friend or relative trying to book her, the other lady was white it had turned out she used to work with lots of members of that community and did not want to do sessions with people she knew personally. There was one SP who seemed to be outright racist when she talking about how she doesn't see Indian clients cause (according to her) they refuse to shower before a session. There could also be certain cultural attitudes that may make an SP uncomfortable, all stemmed from stereotypes or even a bad experience. I do recall one particular time when I saw a transgender SP (who I recognized from pictures of her ad) doing her grocery shopping. I didn't make eye contact, nor did I stick around and stare at her. I was a couple of meters over making my own purchase and this one older Indian fellow was staring her dead on from the opposite end of the isle, and not long after he walks right up to her, calls her by the name she goes by on LL, and started asking her about her day and if she needed a ride back after doing her shopping.
That's complete fucking bullshit. Maybe this one girl "caved in" but no way is this anywhere close to the norm.
There are a lot of reasons SPs have their restrictions regarding race or ethnicity- worrying about my perceived insecurities is definitely not one of them. Why in God's name would I or any other give a rat's ass if Sally rode a black dude before it was my turn? I can't compete? Cock size? ( what a nonsense stereotype THAT is). I'm a racist so I ain't fucking anyone who might dig Indians, Blacks, Asians, Arabs etc. etc.? Or maybe my family survived the holocaust- no German SPs or Kraut fuckers for me!
Don't many many pooners already have enough insecurities in the first place- hence they're paying for sex because otherwise they would have trouble getting it the old-fashioned way?
I really don't know the mindset of the SP's who think they must have race restrictions. There's probably more to it than what some may be willing to admit. I wish people weren't like this.
These two posts are a bit of a contradiction....or perhaps a bit of back peddling.
Presumptions are a very slippery slope, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, and respect your right to your opinion, although I really don't agree with you.
The fact is a Woman is allowed to see ,or not see whomever she chooses, she or they...are allowed to make up their own minds on who they might sleep with.
If they state a racial people within their add as a boundary ....it very simply is their right to do so, end of story.
Yet if an add came up that stated " no whites " it probably wouldn't even warrant a discussion here.
I in fact ,don't like the fact when an add states no blacks or Indians , but if they find it important enough to state in their add, so be it....it's their add, it's their safety , and most importantly their bodies.
At the risk of getting into trouble....I believe it is a safety issue. There are certain ethnic backgrounds , including some Caucasion ones, that think it's ok to abuse, or otherwise harm the female of our species.
If you go to Europe...there are many adds that will state " No Russians "
They may think that if they pay for a young lady....it gives them a right to do whatever they damn well please to that individual.
That's what we are talking about here....and almost everyone is dancing around it....At the risk of an infraction...I don't dance.
Every race has good and evil within its identity, they also have different morals ingrained in their cultures, whatever that might be....some people due to their occupation, must use a blanket judgement to protect themselves.
It's not pretty, but it's a reality...
Exactly. You do not know their mindset, so do not make assumptions.
More importantly do not make a moral judgement of them.
I've travelled a lot in the past few years to many places. Ask any person from a country in the continent of Asia, who hasn't been to other parts of the world to know we think differently, and they will tell you they are Asian. Yes, only we apply the term Asian to only certain Asian countries, they don't use the word the same way.
To the overall topic, the obvious reasons are racism and/or cultural-stereotypes (ethnocentrism), and really in "their line of work" you can't really become a SJW about it either. You can't advocate Black Lives Matter, so pooners get their equal rights on the matter. It's something you have to deal with. And for someone who has been to Japan being white, you gotta go through a lot of trial and error until you find that right niche. It's sucks, but that's reality.
I'm white I've been living in Japan which I believe to my extend travels is the most racist country regardless I enjoyed and truly loved it and adapted.Here were aren't talking about racism...I'm not I do have the right to know who I will meet ..You see pictures you read website you read reviews and chose to see us.Yes over the time I have been an escort I can say that some ethnicity display some behaviours.Some of you seem to say I'm not allow to preference to have apprehension or to know who I will put my mouth on their dicks?
We hate to say but they are différence of culture
AGAIN I NEVER DECLINE ANY ETHNICITY RACE ...I HAVE MORE THAN HANDS OF AWESOME CLIENTS WHICH ARE EAST INDIAN.I HAD PLENTY OF BLACK MALE CLIENT IN USA WHICH I TRULLY LIKE.I DONT ASK YOUR FREAKING ID i like to know a name call yourself Zoro if you like your age and your ethnicity.I don't care your size your dick size ,I like to know when someone is handicap to adapt to the situation.After this experience I will be more adement when I get a text saying Asian and ask...Not because I will decline but if I start something with someone call it the way you want a business transaction a friendship or etc and you try to hide this very very small thing it's a red flag ôf what you could do
P.s some ôf you trully didn't acknowledge that some women ask ethnicity because they are one and don't want issues want to stay anonymous.
Second ps there is two etnicity that has issue with my tiny hypoallergic dog I waste appointment for,That I got decline in cab even by the laws the cant .then making a tantrum when mimo is well behave stay on her bed etc so I'm allow to know up from the ethnicity to tell them again even it's on my ad that I have a tiny dog
When I was new in the business & living in Surrey I did not see Sikh or Pakistani men because I didn't want any former students'dads or older brothers (or former students coming to my door. I used to get a lot of flak over it. I don't discriminate but a while ago I had a client lurker from here repeatedly say derisive things about "ewww you must hate having to fuck brown guys"...really a major turn off to listening him.
The first out of my two comments was me speaking of what I found to be the case with some of the SP's I have asked out of curiosity on their restrictions on race. The second comment was me pointing that an SP may say what she wants on these race restrictions, but at the end we're probably not always getting the full truth.
johnnydepth basically said it for me...
Ditto!
There have been other gals with similar circumstances.
See an other reason why asking which isn’t related to racism
☝ I agree & hate when clients judge who we see
This subject comes up constantly.
It is a woman's choice and she doesn't owe anyone an explanation.
Period.
1) I actually thought the "No Black men" was a code for I don't need/don't want/already have a pimp. I always suspected that if a respectful, and yes older black man called they would go in and mostly discouraged the "pimp" and "pimp wanabees". Oddly I thought that even the non-black pimpers understood the code, did I get that wrong?
2) What do you do if the person answers, as I would, Canadian. I sound like a Canadian, and I happen to be white. But if a person of any ethnicity said they were Canadian, and of course spoke like one, what would you expect to show up at your door? Or isn't that an acceptable answer to the question? This isn't any sort of judgement one way or the other, I really want to know because that is really how I would answer.
2) What do you do if the person answers, as I would, Canadian. I sound like a Canadian, and I happen to be white. But if a person of any ethnicity said they were Canadian, and of course spoke like one, what would you expect to show up at your door? Or isn't that an acceptable answer to the question? This isn't any sort of judgement one way or the other, I really want to know because that is really how I would answer.
Babe been Canadian isn’t an ethnicity lol Once you live and have your status you are Canadian
If you reply saying your Canadian,je ne suis pas imbecile, I’ll ask you still your ethnicity/race and feel you are trying to avoid the subjet
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