U.S. government shut-down

licks2nite

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An anonymous senior U.S. government source claims that the shut-down gives everybody the opportunity to see that upwards of 80% of government jobs are unnecessary, that most government employees only follow "process" without regard for results and spend any amount of the time on the job attending to personal matters. And if the shut-down goes on long enough, that furloughed government employees won't return and that will go a long way to a much needed permanently reduced size of government.

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The lapse in appropriations is more than a battle over a wall. It is an opportunity to strip wasteful government agencies for good.

They do nothing that warrants punishment and nothing of external value. That is their workday: errands for the sake of errands — administering, refining, following and collaborating on process. “Process is your friend” is what delusional civil servants tell themselves.

Process is what we serve, process keeps us safe, process is our core value. It takes a lot of people to maintain the process. Process provides jobs. In fact, there are process experts and certified process managers who protect the process.

Saboteurs peddling opinion as research, tasking their staff on pet projects or pitching wasteful grants to their friends.

Due to the lack of funding, many federal agencies are now operating more effectively from the top down on a fraction of their workforce

When the agency is full, employees held liable for poor performance respond with threats, lawsuits, complaints and process in at least a dozen offices, taking years of mounting paperwork with no fear of accountability, extending their careers, while no real work is done.

Many federal employees truly believe that doing tasks more efficiently and cutting out waste, by closing troubled programs instead of expanding them, “is morally wrong,” as one cried to me.


Source: https://dailycaller.com/2019/01/14/smoke-out-resistance/
 

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Military, air traffic controllers are not being paid, try running an country without them...

Food inspectors. Yup alot of unscrupulous businessmen in the US. More shit gets passed on to consumers.... like contaminated food. people can die....

chaos, that's what you want in return for cheaper taxes?

Why did those departments get started in the first place? To help people.....

Due to lack of funding, many federal agencies can't meet there core responsibilities and the people that are there, are overworked.

Look at the military, they don't get paid an hourly rate, they get paid an salary. Based on a 40 hour work week. Hey you know alot of those guys work 60-80 hour work weeks or more especially when deployed .... slave labour.... cheap labour.....

Without some government agencies some company will build a toxic chemical dump farm behind your house.... which will leak into your back yard.... into your well, you drink the water and your family gets cancer.... I guess life is shitty for you, all because you wanted to save on some taxes.... (sorry that's like fracking) pollution

Its not the government employees that is the big drain, it the contracts that come out of the government for the gov agencies. Big contracts for cleaning, maintenance, painting and building etc.... those contractors are making big money.... Ask yourself why if it takes 200.00 to paint a room( 10 x 10) , does the contract cost 1000.00??
 

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As an update, the Democratic Party "Speaker of the House" in effrontery canceled President Trump's "State of the Union" address that's supposed to take place in the House, since the Speaker controls what goes on in the House. Not to be outdone, Donald Trump as "Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces" grounded an Air Force jet set out for a junket of Democrats led by the House Speaker setting for the Middle East, telling the junketeers to use commercial air flights.
 

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..."Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces" grounded an Air Force jet set out for a junket of Democrats led by the House Speaker setting for the Middle East, telling the junketeers to use commercial air flights.
He needed that aircraft to fly Melania to Mar a Lago.
 

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Not sure about all that but I am currently working in Texas and when the job is complete and it’s time to go home, well I hope that I will be able to get home!!
 

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Now day-30 in the U.S. government shut-down. The House Speaker canceled Donald Trump's "State of the Union" address on him and Trump said that the Speaker and fellow Democrats wouldn't be able to take a government jet to the Middle East. Turns out that the Speaker was intending to take commercial air travel to the Middle East all along. What Donald Trump did for the ire of the Speaker for effrontery of canceling his address was draw public attention and a heightened security risk for the junket of Democrats. The Speaker was photographed in a lineup in Washington Reagan Airport.

In a revelation, Canadian statisticians in the U.S. government shutdown don't know what Canada's export figures are since both countries rely on each other's import statistics, regarded to be much more accurate that export statistics.

Some creative alternate to statistics in finance lately has been counting the number of times each month that the U.S. Federal Reserve Bank Chairman uses the term "labor shortage", currently high, since employment statistics can be construed as the only true measure of the condition of the economy. Detractors argue that in a genuine flourishing booming economy, employers have enough cash to pay for required and skilled labour. Others might counter that common statistics are massaged on a regular basis, that labour participation rate is near a decades low, that only those registered with a labour bureau are counted as unemployed, that items in a basket of consumer products for the "Consumer Price Index" are constantly manipulated. That one always gets me, because honestly you can only do that once, e.g. switching steak for hamburger unless you think that you can get away with replacing hamburger with Soya.

In Vancouver a Huawei telecom executive garnering international attention is increasingly looking due for a pass January 30th as a 60-day extradition order expires that the U.S. can't act upon in a shut-down. Huawei telecom manufacturing is being shut out as a security threat in Western "5G" ultra-fast telecommunication networks, posing severe economic hardship on the telecom giant. If Donald Trump shut-down the U.S. government to show China that Western judicial systems can't be interfered in any other way, I'd guess that the end of January would be a good time to reopen the U.S. government after the Huawei executive is let go in Vancouver.
 

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I'm sure I'm not alone in thinking how asinine the government practice (not just in the US) is of tethering a controversial motion to the coattails of another necessary bill. It should be outlawed. Debate what needs to be debated without holding necessary and uncontroversial motions for ransom.
 

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When it comes down to brass tacks the Democrats actually supported this "wall" notion when Barack Obama was President.They oppose it now on the idea of Trump saying "promise made promise kept".

From my standpoint I understand it and I think it is reasonable.That recent 8000+ caravan of people from Central America that figured they could just show up at the border and then get admitted is just plain fucked.

There are rules for Immigration for ALL countries and they must be adhered to.The rules must be followed.A good example for Canada was during the 2015 election when it became pretty much a bidding war between
ALL parties over who would take in the most Syrian "refugees" which got sparked by the photo of a dead kid on a beach whose own father paid money to a human trafficker to ILLEGALLY bring his family to Greece.

I dont care what anybody says.....that dead kid had nothing to do with the Hustings in Canada but of course the leftist media sure as hell made it an issue.

Thus far those 50,000 Syrian "refugees" have cost tax payers well over 700 MILLION....and the ILLEGAL border crossers coming in from the USA have cost tax payers over 500 MILLION.

At the same time under the compassionate/feminist regime under Trudeau the Canadian government has kicked our veterans in the teeth and repeatedly fucked them over.There should be no "homeless" veterans in Canada but there are
whilst Canada has imported 60,000+ leaches upon our country who contribute NOTHING other than wanting to turn Canada into the country they came from with regards to sharia law.

SR
 

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As an update, the Democratic Party "Speaker of the House" in effrontery canceled President Trump's "State of the Union" address that's supposed to take place in the House, since the Speaker controls what goes on in the House. Not to be outdone, Donald Trump as "Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces" grounded an Air Force jet set out for a junket of Democrats led by the House Speaker setting for the Middle East, telling the junketeers to use commercial air flights.
Yah it was more important to use that jet to ship his mail order Ho to Mar-a-lago. :rolleyes:
 

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I'm sure I'm not alone in thinking how asinine the government practice (not just in the US) is of tethering a controversial motion to the coattails of another necessary bill. It should be outlawed. Debate what needs to be debated without holding necessary and uncontroversial motions for ransom.
Exactly! 800,000 workers without pay going in to their second month. FBI are now saying that the security of the country is at risk from hackers etc.

They need to carve out the wages from these spending bills and make the jobs as an separate line item.
 

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Exactly! 800,000 workers without pay going in to their second month. FBI are now saying that the security of the country is at risk from hackers etc.

They need to carve out the wages from these spending bills and make the jobs as an separate line item.
The GOP forced a vote in the House last week to pay the workers their first pay cheque, but only six dems votes for it and it didn’t pass.
 

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U.S. government filed extradition before the January 30th deadline on the Huawei telecom executive held in Vancouver. Look forward to either Ericsson telecom of Sweden or Nokia of Finland to build your "5G" networks.
 
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