Sickening!

Jethro Bodine

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https://winnipegsun.com/news/crime/...-and-forced-to-work-as-escort-winnipeg-police

I think this is something we all need to think about while partaking in this hobby.
I hate to generalize but it is very much the reality that a lot of the ads we see, on let's say Leo List, for younger girls working out of hotels are being exploited or pimped.
This includes many of the touring girls.
Maybe not tortured or abused to the extent of this particular case but at the end of the day not doing it completely of their own free will and certainly not retaining 100% of their fees.
I think we can all agree that no one here wants to be with a lady who is not in complete control of her situation.

Something to think about next time you are perusing the ads and see the 19 year old working out of a hotel room and communication is by text only (you are likely texting with her pimp).

Cheers
 

PedroPistol

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Totally agree Jethro, this made ill reading this.
this is why I stick with known and reviewed ladies and ones I can talk too on the phone.
 

grizzly

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This isn't new, it's been going on for years. I've been partaking in this hobby for years dating back to the late 80's. Long before the internet, cell phones and review boards. You either picked up street walkers or went to massage parlours. Back in the day, the low track girls used to hang out at the Mount Royal hotel. There was always 5 or 6 girls who hung out there who would take you upstairs. I was there often enough to get to know the girls and they got to know me. I was a well reviewed customer. I had my favorites, so if they were there, we'd take the trek up the stairs. Her leading of course so I could play with her ass.

30 years later, one of my favorites (well more than favorite, we became friends) found me on facebook. We chatted about things and she mentioned that she was advocating for indigenous girls forced into the sex trade. Although I knew she pursued a career in social work, I was curious as to why she would want to advocate for this cause as all the time I knew her in our younger years I thought she was doing this on her own free will. All the time we spent together, we enjoyed each others company. Boy was I wrong.

We agreed to meet for coffee and she told me her story. It made me feel sick to my stomach.

Being from a troubled home and a rebellious teenager she was lured into drugs and the party atmosphere. She was always at the party's promising free booze and drugs. Before long, they weren't free anymore. She couldn't go home to her abusive step dad so she thought this was the better alternative. Her first date on the strip raped her. She was picked up on Higgins and they drove to a secluded spot by the Alexander docks. She chickened out but the john was having none of that. He had his way with her then kicked out of his car. No he didn't pay her. When she finally made it back to Higgins, obviously crying and in tatters, her party friends threatened that if she doesn't bring in at least $300 tonight she would be dead. Keep in mind back then it was $50 for a blow, $80 for a lay and $100 for a half and half.

I had no clue this was going on at the time. I first met her at the Mount Royal and whenever we met we had a lot of fun together. I find out 30 years later that I was one of her most favorite clients. I treated her like a person and not just a fuck doll. She was a person. If I wanted a fuck doll, I would save my money and buy one.

Back to our coffee date and her full disclosure, she tells me that all the time we were seeing each other she was always paying someone in one way or another. The scumbags who were supplying drugs and booze thought it was in their interest to sell her to a bike gang. You remember the Bravos? Well the drugs and booze got better, but so did their expectations. She had not one tattoo branding, but now two and expected to bring in $700 a day. By this time she has had a baby or two, who both have been taken away by cfs because of her drug and lifestyle choices.

Believe me when I say this is an abbreviated version of her story as we talked for over 2 hours about her experiences. She is in her early 50's now and is finally reconnecting with her children and in the process of having her tag tattoos colored over.

When I heard her story, It made me feel sick just to know how many ladies I've seen over the years who were in the same predicament and I was totally clueless. Like her I had fun and so did she and we enjoyed our time together, but I was totally unaware that they were being coerced into this trade.
 
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manrock

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hi grizzlies we prob crossed paths a few times back in the day. i am sad to say i was quite naive to the real story back then and prob contributed to the problems. but i can say i always treated the girls with respect. i think you mean the Mount Royal higgins the Royal Albert was high track. i do remember some of the girls worked both depending on business,
 

grizzly

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hi grizzlies we prob crossed paths a few times back in the day. i am sad to say i was quite naive to the real story back then and prob contributed to the problems. but i can say i always treated the girls with respect. i think you mean the Mount Royal higgins the Royal Albert was high track. i do remember some of the girls worked both depending on business,
Thank you, yes I meant the Mount Royal. Post has been edited.
 

BIGOZZIE

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That's the danger with girls who use motels and rooming houses you never know their background. My faves always have their own place and I can tell no one else lives there. Not foolproof I know.
 

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This situation also is the riskiest to go to for being caught in a sting. The authorities zoom in on the ads who feature young girls that are available 24 hours/day. Who the heck is available 24 hrs a day unless they are being forced to work. Another flag is that they only stay in one location for a short period of time, then travel on before they draw heat.
 

Jethro Bodine

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Thanks for sharing your story Grizzly.
It certainly brings to life the dire often hopeless situation that some providers find themselves in.
It can also serve as a reminder to all of us that the ladies are daughters, sisters, nieces, aunt and often wives. They are human beings who deserve our respect.
They are not just vaginas we masturbate into.
Something to think about next time you are perusing the ads.

Cheers
J
 

felixthecat

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Something to think about next time you are perusing the ads and see the 19 year old working out of a hotel room and communication is by text only (you are likely texting with her pimp).
Millenials text, not call. Texting happens to be also more private and better for time management.

Using hotels is not that much of a red flag either. A fiercely independent young lady explained to me why she worked from hotels. It was the best for her financially comparing to per-hour shared incalls or AirBnB based on the pattern (only a few days a month, a reliable long prebooking plus a few ad hoc bookings, sharing the room with friends).

I expect a decent hotel is a safer environment than a private residence. Cameras and hotel security should make the outright abuse unlikely.

Thanks for bringing up this story as a reminder we have to watch for signs of potential abuse.
 

grizzly

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To continue this story, i have a friend who works for Canada Customs Agency in the immigration department. We were out for beers one day and she started talking about her day. She has no clue that I partake in this hobby. She started talking about a young oriental girl they deported that day. She was here on a student visa and was found prostituting herself. It turns out many of these oriental providers are given student visa's and student loans from their home country by unscrupulous people. When they get here, they are expected to work off the visa and loans.

Oriental people are extremely loyal to their families and will try their best to not bring shame to their family.

My friend says they deport 2 or 3 of these cases every month. This is in Manitoba where we don't have a high concentration of oriental students. I can only imagine what the numbers are in Vancouver or Toronto. We have a couple of agency's operating in Manitoba promoting oriental girls, to which I've never partaken in for this very reason.
 

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Reading the article, this is what I don't get. I understand the young lady is in fear, but why would she not whisper in her clients ear what was being done to her back at the place? " When you leave, Please quickly call the police, this is what these people are doing to me" etc etc. Also, please make them aware of the ad.

Anyone with a right mind would immediately head to the nearest L.E office. Who wouldn't!!??

And forget about the initial reason on meeting with the lady. It could be for any reason. Your dealing with someones life!! Unless I am missing something in the article.
 

clu

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Reading the article, this is what I don't get. I understand the young lady is in fear, but why would she not whisper in her clients ear what was being done to her back at the place? " When you leave, Please quickly call the police, this is what these people are doing to me" etc etc. Also, please make them aware of the ad.

Anyone with a right mind would immediately head to the nearest L.E office. Who wouldn't!!??

And forget about the initial reason on meeting with the lady. It could be for any reason. Your dealing with someones life!! Unless I am missing something in the article.
Because she doesn't know who to trust? Because the pimp is violent and perhaps she can't know whether the john is an associate of the pimp?

Besides it says in the article itself:

...often traffickers will implicate them in illegal activities to keep them from going to police...
 

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Because she doesn't know who to trust? Because the pimp is violent and perhaps she can't know whether the john is an associate of the pimp?

Besides it says in the article itself:
That's is one fucked up situation then!! Beyond Spaced out.
 

Daniella

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The pimps constantly test the girls' behaviour. Whisper in the wrong ear will get her a beating.
Or killed.

I read a lot of reviews, men saying the women look tired, didn't give good service because she was sore, looked unhappy, looked very skinny and unhealthy and yet few of these men stopped the session. I guess none of those men thought "this girl might be in a bad situation" or they didn't care because they already paid so they intended to get the service regardless.

the red flag should be a few very young 18-21 girls, working out of the same hotel. Most of us are in our mid to late 20s before we make friends with others escorts because we don't know where to meet other escorts, so very young girls sharing the same room is definitely suspicious.
 

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The pimps constantly test the girls' behaviour. Whisper in the wrong ear will get her a beating.
This never crossed my mind and this case-- your comment - very true. Goes to show how low some humans can be to put someone thru that. Shit like that pisses me off!!
 

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Or killed.

I read a lot of reviews, men saying the women look tired, didn't give good service because she was sore, looked unhappy, looked very skinny and unhealthy and yet few of these men stopped the session. I guess none of those men thought "this girl might be in a bad situation" or they didn't care because they already paid so they intended to get the service regardless.

the red flag should be a few very young 18-21 girls, working out of the same hotel. Most of us are in our mid to late 20s before we make friends with others escorts because we don't know where to meet other escorts, so very young girls sharing the same room is definitely suspicious.

I wrote a post a long while ago, when I ran across a very young abused girl....it was obvious what was going on.
I won't go into details about what transpired, as some of the details are not tolerated here anymore.
The girl went back to her parents home...the abusive fucktard that was pimping her, and beating her....ended up looking me in the eye, when he tried to stop her from getting in my truck.
He made a mistake....

She is married, with kids.....the parents keep me updated with an email or two every Christmas.
There are men who think they are in control out there, they think they can do ,or take whatever they please....until they meet someone who will stand up to them, ...and mean it.
 

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I understand the young lady is in fear, but why would she not whisper in her clients ear what was being done to her back at the place?
This may come as a surprise to some of you, but believe it or not, some clients out there are actual pieces of shit. There no better then the pimps themselves, and love to force these girls to do all kinds of services. As grizzly stated in his story about his sp friend. On her first date she was raped by her client and not paid. What if these girls are seeing more of these types of clients, instead of clients like grizzly. I doubt they care about her, and they'd have no problem snitching to the pimp only to cause her more harm.

My heart sank when I read this article... this is so sad and disturbing on so many levels, I would love just 2 mins with this guy.

Also to the poster who said millennials text, and don't call. That's not the case with me, as I always call the escorts because I want to hear there voice before booking. Even if she's well reviewed that's just the way I handle myself. That's why I have harder time booking with sps than perhaps others do.

Maybe that's why I'm like 0/3 booking with wca.
 
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