Las Vegas Cop Shoots Suspects During high Speed Chase - Wow!
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I think the video shows a good reason why they don't have bulletproof glass.
Interesting Google indicates it's common for US Police vehicles not to have bulletproof glass.
http://watchingamerica.com/WA/2016/04/29/why-are-us-police-cars-not-equipped-with-bulletproof-glass/
Really, does everyone think that is great police work? There are many things he did on the fly.
He should never of fired through his windshield. At the end he should of used his car to pivot the suspects car to spin it out and back off his vehicle and wait for backup.
Shooting through the windshield, he forgot he could get blow back from the glass in the windshield (he took a big chance of injuring himself). When a bullet goes through the windshield it loses energy, making the bullet less effective at the intended target. Also shots going through the windshield can deflect off the intended flight plan. Shooting through the window also can crack your windshield causing visibility issues. this cop never thought about public safety trying to shoot at a moving target. What if one of his bullets killed a by stander?
He fired one handed cowboy style, making his aim off, which is why he decided to use 2 hands. Then he both hands (to fire the gun more accurately) off the steering wheel during a high speed chase.
Putting another magazine in his gun, he had his gun in his wrong hand, and he had trouble loading the magazine. Then he got up and emptied almost the entire mag into the vehicle.
Police are there for the public's safety, not to act as cowboys during a shoot up. There was no verbal indication from the cop for the suspects to surrender when they were stopped. If suspects shoot out an car, it dosen't give the cops the right to act as executioners. As the situation changes the cops have to adjust to the threat level....
I don't know who was shooting from the suspects car, but more than likely it wasn't the driver.
It was hard to tell when shots were fired at the police car (can you see it visually), only the police officers words indicating that shots were fired... I would suspect that if I were the passenger in the suspected car and firing at a cop car I would be aiming for the windshield and the cop driving. No impacts were made on the windshield..... couldn't tell if there were bullets impact the cop car.
The cop did some good things and he did some bad behavioural things.
The cop could improve on his performance, " learn what could I do better". In the end; part of public saftey is for the officer to protect his life. In shootout/combat you can't second guess yourself.
With adrenaline rushing, the cop relied on his training.
He should never of fired through his windshield. At the end he should of used his car to pivot the suspects car to spin it out and back off his vehicle and wait for backup.
Shooting through the windshield, he forgot he could get blow back from the glass in the windshield (he took a big chance of injuring himself). When a bullet goes through the windshield it loses energy, making the bullet less effective at the intended target. Also shots going through the windshield can deflect off the intended flight plan. Shooting through the window also can crack your windshield causing visibility issues. this cop never thought about public safety trying to shoot at a moving target. What if one of his bullets killed a by stander?
He fired one handed cowboy style, making his aim off, which is why he decided to use 2 hands. Then he both hands (to fire the gun more accurately) off the steering wheel during a high speed chase.
Putting another magazine in his gun, he had his gun in his wrong hand, and he had trouble loading the magazine. Then he got up and emptied almost the entire mag into the vehicle.
Police are there for the public's safety, not to act as cowboys during a shoot up. There was no verbal indication from the cop for the suspects to surrender when they were stopped. If suspects shoot out an car, it dosen't give the cops the right to act as executioners. As the situation changes the cops have to adjust to the threat level....
I don't know who was shooting from the suspects car, but more than likely it wasn't the driver.
It was hard to tell when shots were fired at the police car (can you see it visually), only the police officers words indicating that shots were fired... I would suspect that if I were the passenger in the suspected car and firing at a cop car I would be aiming for the windshield and the cop driving. No impacts were made on the windshield..... couldn't tell if there were bullets impact the cop car.
The cop did some good things and he did some bad behavioural things.
The cop could improve on his performance, " learn what could I do better". In the end; part of public saftey is for the officer to protect his life. In shootout/combat you can't second guess yourself.
With adrenaline rushing, the cop relied on his training.
I was surprised the officer had to handle his radio with his right hand for a big portion of time.
The video shows a great police work I think. No need to second-guess it, the police already reviewed it in details as below.
Some details that are not obvious:
The video shows a great police work I think. No need to second-guess it, the police already reviewed it in details as below.
Some details that are not obvious:
- Both suspects fired shots, and they hit police vehicle(s) multiple times.
- It was an elementary school where the final shootout happened.
- The driver (suspect) exited his vehicle once it stopped, the officer shouted "get down" to him, but the suspect proceeded to flee an tried to enter the school.
- The other suspect moved from passenger's to driver's seat and started reversing the vehicle, at which point he was shot at and killed.
If someone is shooting at you, the only correct reaction is shoot them until they are dead.
Many police and soldiers have been killed by adversaries who looked disabled, but were able to shoot and kill when they got close enough and their guard was down.
Switching out magazines on the range is easy, doing it while someone is shooting at you is a bit harder.
Many police and soldiers have been killed by adversaries who looked disabled, but were able to shoot and kill when they got close enough and their guard was down.
Switching out magazines on the range is easy, doing it while someone is shooting at you is a bit harder.
And that is exactly why we have every SJW deciding via a few seconds or minutes of tape what a police officer in a split second, life-or-death decison should have done.
If only every internet/ activst expert were put in the same position.
Amazing that the panicking cop didn't kill someone on the street or in another vehicle. Shooting wild while driving, no hands on the wheel, through red lights without slowing or looking for cross traffic. The police there may be more dangerous than the criminals.
Biased a little?
The cop was nervous, doh. No faulty actions that qualify him as panicking.
He only started shooting (from closer distance) when the degenerates slowed down by the elementary school. If it wasn't more dangerous to the public to let them walk into the school, I don't know what is.
Did you miss the parts about no hands on the wheel and going through red lights? That can easily kill innocent third parties. How about emptying the clip so you have no shots left for when you can see the target? Shooting with one hand while driving? Shooting with two hands while driving? Shooting through your own windshield? How about chasing a fleeing car so you are closer, make a better target and push them so they are more likely to kill someone else? Passing another car also chasing the shooters? I challenge you to find any of these moves in a police training video, even an American training video. Unless it's a list of what not to do. It's just luck the police officer didn't kill any of the children in the school.
Where do you draw the line between nervous and panicked? I see "panic".
I suggest "nervous" would be acting according to training or improvising with reasonable actions despite a high level of anxiety. Taking unreasonable action that is inconsistent with training while stressed would be "panic". There is also the special case where a person is calm and behaves inappropriately but according to training as in the case of a US Navy radar technician who described a fast, high flying bogey while looking at a display showing a slow low flying plane. He had been trained to deal calmly with attack by a fighter jet and that is what he described. The ship shot down the commercial jet with hundreds on board.
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Not sure why it's worth mentioning when driving an emergency vehicle with the siren on.
I agree with that definition. If we cannot decide whether the actions were reasonable, that would be up to the investigators to decide. The briefing video quotes some of the policies. I don't see a problem as the police understandably has some discretion on when the public interests justify dangerous actions such as engaging in a gunfight.
The cop remembered about safety. He kept a distance from suspects until they possibly were low on ammo, and he warned colleagues in another vehicle not to follow suspects too close.
My first thought after the video was that it's less than a year since the Las Vegas mass shooting. The local police must have been reflecting a lot on that and very unwilling to have another shooter on the loose.
I for one a applaud these cops for what they do everyday...that was the best possible outcome for the douchebag behind the wheel. There is always some sort of risk involved in stopping criminals, be it for the officers or the general public. I saw no panic, just adrenaline, and in the end one less criminal on the streets!
