TRAGIC: Incel (Involuntary Celibacy) Rebellion in Toronto

[monger99]

https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/25/us/incel-rebellion-alek-minassian-toronto-attack-trnd/index.html?sr=twCNN042618incel-rebellion-alek-minassian-toronto-attack-trnd0703AMStory

This story is so disturbing.

The Toronto suspect apparently posted about an 'incel rebellion.' Here's what that means
By Gianluca Mezzofiore, CNN

 

[westwoody]

As mentioned in the Toronto Police thread, these guys are dangerous lunatics.

They are so jealous of guys who have girlfriends they want to kill them.
They hate women and want to kill them too.
Their subreddit was full of rants about rape and murder.

And they are so fucked in the head they don't just call an escort and get laid?

 

[HornyGandalfREDUX]

And they are so fucked in the head they don't just call an escort and get laid?

Maybe because of the way society has ostracized sex work?

If I was a sex worker, I’m not sure that I would want someone with these beliefs visiting me...
Though, yes, this could be a solution.

 

[sevenofnine]

I think like others have mentioned and its out there,
we are missing the bigger picture,

there is a group of males out there, who are extremely bitter and angry,
they become demoralized life is not fair, im better then this I deserve more, etc etc . poor me,
it is not necessary about women, its about life in general.

and they are attracted to these ideologies out there, whether radical Islam, whether white supremacist this homo phobia movement even radical Christianity, it gives them a voice a platform, they gather and share on web forums etc,

im sorry but academics express it much better then I ever can,

but I think it comes down to its just a whole lot easier to blame your problems on, jews, homosexuals, women, Christians, Muslims etc.
as opposed to getting your shit together and having a meaning full life

 

[Dawgfan]

In the current US political climate, these types of men feel emboldened. They feel women are objects that they need but have no idea how to have normal relationships. When the can't, they blame the women or society.

We are going down a very dangerous road and the people with some political power see the world being taken over by women and non whites. They will do whatever they can to hold onto what they have and what they feel should be theres.

 

[MissingOne]

There have been periods in my life in which I might have been described as being involuntarily celibate. It didn't cause me to blame or hate women. And, since SP's seem to find me to be an acceptable client, I've always had options. Guys who take out their frustrations through violence against strangers have more issues than just not knowing how to build relationships with women.

 

[monger99]

I can't think of another time in history where there have been such a vast proliferation of sinister ideologies across the world. Evil comes in more flavors than Baskin Robbins ice cream, or so it seems. So sad...

 

[wetnose]

I can't think of another time in history where there have been such a vast proliferation of sinister ideologies across the world. Evil comes in more flavors than Baskin Robbins ice cream, or so it seems. So sad...

They've always been around, but the Internet enables them to gather and find community. Previously they might have been outliers - 1 in 50,000, but that amounts to over 7,000 individuals if you just count the US.

 

[wetnose]

As mentioned in the Toronto Police thread, these guys are dangerous lunatics.

They are so jealous of guys who have girlfriends they want to kill them.
They hate women and want to kill them too.
Their subreddit was full of rants about rape and murder.

And they are so fucked in the head they don't just call an escort and get laid?

They just really need to get themselves to Thailand for 3 weeks.

Have a nice massage, eat great food, get laid, lie on a gorgeous beach...repeat for 20 days.

 

[clu]

They've always been around, but the Internet enables them to gather and find community. Previously they might have been outliers - 1 in 50,000, but that amounts to over 7,000 individuals if you just count the US.

Yeah, it works both ways unfortunately: it might do some good by helping that LGBTQ kid with the conservative iron fist parents feel less alone, but on the flip side it does the same for these petulant entitled assholes too.

 

[clu]

They just really need to get themselves to Thailand for 3 weeks.

Have a nice massage, eat great food, get laid, lie on a gorgeous beach...repeat for 20 days.

Thing is it's doubtful that these guys would know how to be decent to a woman who was willing to aid them.

Edit to add: I wager their entitlement mentality would lead them to be the kind of guy who'd steal back the envelope at the end of the session, even if they "stooped" to the "indignity" of being there in the first place. (Disclaimer: words in quotes are how I expect they'd see it, not how I see it.)

 

[ddcanz]

The anti-sentiment of corporal punishment and the real necessity of dual-income families have led to the demise of proper parenting.
These little shits were left on their own to amuse themselves with the universality of the internet- without any real fear of consequences and minimal guidance. 'Click' to a world of perceived instant gratification and expectations of perfection, where woman are merely objects.
No need to wonder why there are so many lazy, misguided, entitled and ultimately self-loathing wastes of skin banding together and enabling each other to lash out at what they are apparently incapable of ever attaining on any real level.
The hero cop should have at least put a bullet through one of Alek's knee caps to give him a little taste of what real consequences are.

 

[clu]

The anti-sentiment of corporal punishment and the real necessity of dual-income families have led to the demise of proper parenting.
These little shits were left on their own to amuse themselves with the universality of the internet- without any real fear of consequences and minimal guidance. 'Click' to a world of perceived instant gratification and expectations of perfection, where woman are merely objects.
No need to wonder why there are so many lazy, misguided, entitled and ultimately self-loathing wastes of skin banding together and enabling each other to lash out at what they are apparently incapable of ever attaining on any real level.
The hero cop should have at least put a bullet through one of Alek's knee caps to give him a little taste of what real consequences are.

That's quite the series of assumptions about the guy. Just for giggles let me relay a nearly opposite picture a friend of mine fabricated to explain the guy: "he's obviously from some traditional conservative family where women have no agency and are treated like property. Probably learned his dysfunctional view on relationships from a father who was abusive to the mother and turned to violence when his word wasn't treated as law." i.e. so in this other fabrication, he's the child of a stay at home mom whose dad believed in corporal punishment. But your story and my friend's story are both just guesswork based on your respective preconceptions.

BTW, a knee is a very small target. No cop is trained to go for the knee. I blame Terminator 2 for putting "shoot him in the knee" in everyone's head.

 

[ddcanz]

That's quite the series of assumptions about the guy. Just for giggles let me relay a nearly opposite picture a friend of mine fabricated to explain the guy: "he's obviously from some traditional conservative family where women have no agency and are treated like property. Probably learned his dysfunctional view on relationships from a father who was abusive to the mother and turned to violence when his word wasn't treated as law." i.e. so in this other fabrication, he's the child of a stay at home mom whose dad believed in corporal punishment. But your story and my friend's story are both just guesswork based on your respective preconceptions.

BTW, a knee is a very small target. No cop is trained to go for the knee. I blame Terminator 2 for putting "shoot him in the knee" in everyone's head.

Of course it's guesswork. It's also a general statement regarding blaming the world for one's own "misfortunes".
The shot to the kneecap wasn't meant too seriously- no shit Sherlock it's a small target. The cop acted properly. A miss could likely injure a bystander.
But this Alek fuck was deserving of more than a passive takedown.

 

[clu]

It's also a general statement regarding blaming the world for one's own "misfortunes".

That one is not an assumption, it's an observation based on the kind of things they actually talk about in these groups. There's a theme of them blaming feminism, etc. for women having better things to do than satisfy their needs.

But this Alek fuck was deserving of more than a passive takedown.

Given the guy wanted to suicide by cop, I'm personally pleased the son of a bitch was denied.