Dating single mothers

[Aerts]

We used to call these gals Husband Hunters, looking for financial security and a comfortable life. If she has a deadbeat X she is likely in this category and you could be risking a lot especially if she lives in your home for a number of years, she could walk with a portion of it. On the other hand there are independent single mothers who have even refused child support from an X and go it alone successfully raising good kids. There are those in the middle who have made a good choice but it didn’t work out but they have a cordial relationship with their X who pays child support. She is looking for a stable relationship, this could all work out but if you are not bringing positive energy to the relationship nothing will work.

If a woman isn’t looking to be supported by a man, that’s great, it’s just not common for a single mom to be financially independent enough for that to not be on her mind (I won’t get into reliance on government subsidies). The fact is raising a child is expensive, and if the relationship progresses to the point of you living together, it will be impossible to not end up supporting her child. I haven’t met too many doctor/lawyer single mothers, most who I have dealt with are somewhere in between adult student and social worker/government worker.

As for being treated like livestock, isn’t that what being a man is in general in Canada? Being livestock for taxation and massive wealth transfers to women through the state? Something like 99% of households below the poverty line are single parent households, and out of those almost all are single mother led. So you could argue that you could virtually eliminate poverty if there were no single mothers. But that’s not my point, my point is that there is already a massive wealth transfer from men to single mothers through taxation via the state. This needs to be acknowledged.

 

[westwoody]

So should the state just cut off all aid and let them starve?

Or would you enjoy having more desperate women who might consider prostituting themselves?

I don't think many women become single mothers by choice. I have two nephews who have knocked up two women, and then fucked off and abandoned their paternal responsibilities. Both are now on their third marriage. I don't talk to either of them, they are just useless irresponsible assholes.
Guys like them cause most of the "single mother problem", not the women.

 

[sybian]

If a woman isn’t looking to be supported by a man, that’s great, it’s just not common for a single mom to be financially independent enough for that to not be on her mind (I won’t get into reliance on government subsidies). The fact is raising a child is expensive, and if the relationship progresses to the point of you living together, it will be impossible to not end up supporting her child. I haven’t met too many doctor/lawyer single mothers, most who I have dealt with are somewhere in between adult student and social worker/government worker.

As for being treated like livestock, isn’t that what being a man is in general in Canada? Being livestock for taxation and massive wealth transfers to women through the state? Something like 99% of households below the poverty line are single parent households, and out of those almost all are single mother led. So you could argue that you could virtually eliminate poverty if there were no single mothers. But that’s not my point, my point is that there is already a massive wealth transfer from men to single mothers through taxation via the state. This needs to be acknowledged.

You could also eliminate poverty if our tax dollars got spent right, and not given away to countries that have problems that are almost irreparable .....This is Canada.....we try to look after our less fortunate, our taxes are high ,because our costs are high...but all things are relatively equal.
Your comment about treating only men like livestock, tells me you've been burned or branded, at least a little.
Women are not to blame my friend......at times ,a person must look at the man in the mirror.
You of course are more than allowed your opinion , as everyone else here is.....you may not like what others have to say at times, that is the nature of this forum......but the world is big enough, for all points of view.

 

[clu]

As for being treated like livestock, isn’t that what being a man is in general in Canada? Being livestock for taxation and massive wealth transfers to women through the state? Something like 99% of households below the poverty line are single parent households, and out of those almost all are single mother led.

And this is the mother's fault? Even if that statistic is true, what your tax contribution is actually doing is covering for the delinquent fathers. So it's them you should be resenting in this argument. And incidentally the majority of income tax does not go to helping those below the poverty line.

Anyway you're painting a pretty clear picture. You might get more sympathy on an MRA board. Just because people here are OK engaging in a business transaction for sex doesn't mean they see women as commodities.

 

[Aerts]

So should the state just cut off all aid and let them starve?

Or would you enjoy having more desperate women who might consider prostituting themselves?

I don't think many women become single mothers by choice. I have two nephews who have knocked up two women, and then fucked off and abandoned their paternal responsibilities. Both are now on their third marriage. I don't talk to either of them, they are just useless irresponsible assholes.
Guys like them cause most of the "single mother problem", not the women.

I completely disagree. I would put more reproductive liability on the woman. Why? Because women have access to something like 12 forms of birth control, plus they ability to put a child up for adoption without the knowledge of the father. It's also true that women are the choosers in sex biologically. Men pursue, women reject. So out of all the possible choices, she chose a man who was unreliable, irresponsible, and would make a shitty father, yes still chose to get pregnant by him. If we held women more accountable for their reproductive choices, this would be a rare occurrence. Before the modern welfare state began in the 1960's, single mothers were pretty uncommon. But once the modern welfare state began, single motherhood proliferated and continues to increase to this day. This is simple economics and incentives. Subsidize poor life choices, people will make more of them.

You could also eliminate poverty if our tax dollars got spent right, and not given away to countries that have problems that are almost irreparable .....This is Canada.....we try to look after our less fortunate, our taxes are high ,because our costs are high...but all things are relatively equal.
Your comment about treating only men like livestock, tells me you've been burned or branded, at least a little.
Women are not to blame my friend......at times ,a person must look at the man in the mirror.
You of course are more than allowed your opinion , as everyone else here is.....you may not like what others have to say at times, that is the nature of this forum......but the world is big enough, for all points of view.

I agree, we need to eliminate foreign aid. It's a complete waste of money. I accept responsibility where it is due, I don't see what your point is other than in my specific relationship in the OP--- I'm not responsible for creating any single moms.

And this is the mother's fault? Even if that statistic is true, what your tax contribution is actually doing is covering for the delinquent fathers. So it's them you should be resenting in this argument. And incidentally the majority of income tax does not go to helping those below the poverty line.

Anyway you're painting a pretty clear picture. You might get more sympathy on an MRA board. Just because people here are OK engaging in a business transaction for sex doesn't mean they see women as commodities.

I never said the majority of income tax goes to helping people below the poverty line, however the majority of taxes that are used to subsidize people below the poverty line go towards single mothers, and a large portion of the bureaucracy works to service people who are below the poverty line or who receive more in benefits than they pay in taxes.

Delinquent fathers get no sympathy from me, but if we don't stop subsidizing single mothers and hold women accountable for their reproductive choices, they will continue to have kids with these wastes of oxygen. The reason why we didn't have an epidemic of single mothers prior to the welfare state was because we didn't subsidize poor life choices, and women chose better mates because they knew they would be held accountable for their choices. Women today don't have the same liability, because they know that with or without a husband, the tax payer will be held liable.

I don't see women as a commodity, if anything I have more respect for their intelligence and ability than some people in this thread who pretend they are too dumb and naive to know the difference between a man who will make a good father/provider and some neck-tattooed waste of oxygen.

 

[overdone]

So should the state just cut off all aid and let them starve?

how about we stop giving welfare to people who don't deserve or actually need it

we, now thanks to sniffles, are subsidizing around 30% of the population, not that Harper was much better

over 65, 15%, under 18 around 15%, we give OAS, old people welfare, out of general revenue, not a pension, to people who NET up to $73,756 for 2016, that's NET INCOME, not Gross

and sniffles new Child benefit is given to people making up to $157,188 to $206,667, depending on how many children/age, TAX FREE

at least the Old people welfare is taxed, lol

do you really think people making 30-60,000/yr under 65, with no children should be gouged to pay taxes while we have people making more getting WELFARE?

or how about giving people with assets in the hundred of thousands getting OAS, cause it isn't calculated into it either, just income

when there are young people who can't even dream of owning a house right now

a couple with 2 kids, combined income of 80,000, 2 average incomes of 40G's, are getting $7,220/yr tax free in sniffles welfare scheme, which he's putting us into debt to pay for

it has cut offs starting at 30,000 to 65,000, then another over 65, again depending on 1 or 2 parents, age of children, number of children


the average median income in Canada is around 40-50G's, household is somewhere in the 70-80G's

it's one thing to help the actual poor, it's another to subsidize the people who make the average or above, or people who have assets in the hundred of thousands like some old people

OAS is somewhere in the 30+BILLION

his Child welfare is somewhere in the 22 BILLION range

so yeah maybe some welfare to people making over 40-50G's for single or over 70 for a family should be cut off

 

[apl16]

Talking about welfare, maybe we should stop corporate welfare. It costs much more than single moms ever will.

Perhaps snipping dead beat dad's would be a good idea. At least they won't do it again!

 

[westwoody]

How do you know if he or she really are sterilised?
A man could say he has had a vasectomy but how would you know for sure?

 

[sybian]

Good point ... I have no idea , I hope Miss Hunter will have the answer ..

He would have no Adam's apple , his head would hang a little lower, and his lip wouldn't curl at the sight of cleavage....he would also pay no mind to a heart shaped ass.
He may also have an unexplainable urge to watch The View, and re-runs of Oprah.....

 

[sybian]

I must say, this comment is ridiculous. A vasectomy doesn’t feminize a man

Well I'm glad I wasn't misinterpreted then.......I was trying to be ridiculous.

Of course it doesn't

 

[UhOh]

I must say, this comment is ridiculous. A vasectomy doesn’t feminize a man

A vasectomy might not but watching Oprah sure would.

 

[golferjohn]

If men bore the burden of birth, I can guarantee there'd never be an 'accident'

 

[golferjohn]

never say never , plenty of women get pregnant by rape every year , not as if any women should have to take birth control just in case.

edit : sorry ...but you just might have been joking , I dont always get it lol

...more of a social-commentary joke

so using your rape example, have their been any cases of female-perpetrated rape of a man reported?

 

[hankmoody]

I have 2 FWB ATM. Both are single mothers. Independent, hard working, good farm girls. They own their own land, stock, houses etc and work full time jobs in town while raising their children. They're just missing a little TLC as am I.
It all comes down to respect doesn't it.
Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.

 

[sybian]

I have 2 FWB ATM. Both are single mothers. Independent, hard working, good farm girls. They own their own land, stock, houses etc and work full time jobs in town while raising their children. They're just missing a little TLC as am I.
It all comes down to respect doesn't it.
Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.

There isn't anything better than a sex starved yellow haired farm girl.
There isn't many women that would give you a blowjob ,on a John Deere while bailing hay.

 

[jgg]

There isn't anything better than a sex starved yellow haired farm girl.
There isn't many women that would give you a blowjob ,on a John Deere while bailing hay.

I get hay fever. I hated baling. When I was younger, haying was done on a open tractor. No matter which direction you were going, it seemed the breeze was always at your back keeping you in a cloud of dust. A blowjob would be the only thing that would make haying tolerable. Now...thank goodness for cabs and large rounds...and the banker's seat for the lady to sit on.

As for dating single mothers, nothing wrong with that. It's the same for all dates. We all have a cross to bear.

Happy New Year.

 

[sybian]

I get hay fever. I hated baling. When I was younger, haying was done on a open tractor. No matter which direction you were going, it seemed the breeze was always at your back keeping you in a cloud of dust. A blowjob would be the only thing that would make haying tolerable. Now...thank goodness for cabs and large rounds...and the banker's seat for the lady to sit on.

As for dating single mothers, nothing wrong with that. It's the same for all dates. We all have a cross to bear.

Happy New Year.

Yes....we all have our scars, and a cross to bear....Happy New Year.

 

[Amuse0ne]

Many years ago when in my early twenties I was working south of the border in the Mid-west. I was picked up at a nightclub by a young babe about the same age and invited back to her apartment. She had her way with me in the living room shortly after we arrived and I couldn't believe my luck. Very good sex and the sweetest little pussy ever. During that time a man came around looking for a late night booty call and drunkenly pounded on the door to announce himself, she barked at him from beneath me right into my ear. A most sobering & tense moment it was indeed I began to survey the windows and quickly realized we weren't on the ground floor, guys carry guns there ya know. Luckily he left after a while but then suddenly two wee ones came running out from a room hoping to see their Daddy that's when I found out she was a Mum...They really were wonderful children that I enjoyed being around and she was really sweet mostly but I was also very lonely at that time. After a couple more dates I stopped seeing her because there just wasn't a connection developing between the two of us like there was with her children and I felt guilty about that. Perhaps she took her husband back. Ok so I met the kids on the 2nd date but it was more fun this way the rest is true.

 

[monger99]

How do you know if he or she really are sterilised?
A man could say he has had a vasectomy but how would you know for sure?

In many cases, you will see two suture scars and a presence of sperm granulomas on the testicles. Also, post-op tests are run to make sure that the sperm count is zero. Some guys might be thorough enough to present those test results to a potential partner.

 

[Sibar]

the answer is yes ...


https://thoughtcatalog.com/lorenzo-...share-stories-of-being-raped-by-a-woman-nsfw/

the story starts out nice and sexy but a little ways in and most men would be begging for mercy for real .

let me know if you cant read it without laughing when miss bondage turns on her bf in the first story ? I have to be honest and admit I laughed for half a second ( imagining me with my ex lol) but a second later the reality hit , and I was sad for the poor fool who trusted his girlfriend .

I think better to hire a professional for kinky play , a lot less chance they will go to far .


I will add that I have had a few guy friends claimed borderline raped by gfs that did it to get pregnant , so they would be stuck marrying them .

Some more documented cases, of female on male. They probably are in the minority of all cases. But law enforcement should really treat them the same.


Female on male