Trump for President. Who's hopping on the bandwagon? Who's digging a bunker?

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Quality of chicken in the US versus Canadain product.......I will leave plenty of space near the bottom of this post for Miss Hunter to publish her puking emojis .......

First, there must be the egg before the chicken, which brings into question the breeder flocks that produce the hatching eggs, that supply the Broiler chicks.
In the US the Breeder flocks are reared and raised on their own litter for their lifetime, about two years.
There is a high level of Coxi bacteria in the intestines of a chicken to allow them to digest food. This level of bacteria increases when a bird is kept in an enclosed environment.
Coxi is controlled at low levels by a anti- biotic called coxidiostat, and is fed at low levels to control the build up of the bacteria to maximize production.
Here in Canada the breeders are reared to egg production age then moved to a clean floor with slats that allow the litter to be dropped into pits below the rearing floor......this allows the bird to live on a lower standard of anti- biotic throughout its lifetime of egg production.
Now we have the egg........in the States the egg is sprayed with an anti- biotic before being placed in the hatcher, a practice that is not done here in Canada.
The eggs environment is then controlled with Formaldihyde gas that controls humidity, as well as bacteria levels to control the hatch production........Canada doesn't use Formadahyde in its hatchers.
The chick is hatched then in the US is sprayed with various viruses to enhance its immunity to various Avian viruses......Canada will do this inoculation , only if there is a recorded outbreak reported to the provincial Governments.
In the US it is standard practice without Government control....it is regulated on a State by State basis.
The chick is then raised on low level Coxidiostat for its lifetime, at higher levels than here in Canada, as there is no laws to ensure that the farmer cleans the litter out of the barns at the end of a production cycle.......Here in Canada, a farmer must clean out the litter and disinfect the surfaces by law......The raising cycle is 5 to 7 weeks depending on the size of bird required by market.
The withdrawal time in the US for anti- biotic so within the living bird is 2 days in the US.....even though the Coxidiostat levels are higher than Canadian standards.....here it is 5 or 6 days.
The chicken is then brought to slaughter.....The US uses a scald method that draws the carcass through a giant tank of water that is just below boiling to defeather the carcass.......changing of the water varies from State to State.
Here we use steam jets, not dip tanks ,so there is no need to disinfect the carcass with chemicals to get rid of salmonella.
, because it doesn't run through a soup of their own crap, but instead is disinfected by the heat of the steam while hanging from shackles.
The evicaration process and inspection process is night and day in difference between the two nations, and would require a textbook to explain......lets just leave it at ...the Canadian standards are higher, and are arguably the best in the world.
Canada has addressed the ever changing anti- biotic resistance in humans and linked it to low level anti- biotic use in the food supply......something the US has chosen to ignore at the moment , stating that " there is no evidence that there is a direct link between anti- biotic resistance in humans ,and it's use in food production"
The World Health Organiztion disagrees.
For the record........I have no financial interest, nor have I ever owned a chicken farm.....I have studied the over use of anti- biotics and related it in my industry, which is the raising and marketing of cattle, and beef production.
It is my opinion that ....if your going to buy factory farmed chicken, it will have anti- biotics used to produce the product, but here in Canada it is kept at a well managed, minimum level.
The quota system, or Supply Management that is now under attack, is the best way to manage raising a product, for a large population, without threatening a populations health for the generations.
 

MissingOne

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... I've had a hellish day raising someone else's food, for enough money to starve myself.
Write a letter about your hellish day to Trump, pretending your ranch is in Montana. He'll put out a tweet, blaming his latest foil for your problem, and promising to fix everything so that you live happily ever after with a full stomach and bank account.

More seriously, thank you for the explanation about chicken. It's very useful information.
 

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Now that Bernier seems to be the defacto leader in the leadership race for the Conservative party, the end of supply management seems more possible (a bad thing from my point of view). Bernier says if he became leader and the Conservatives got into power again, he would phase out supply management. But he says the cost would be between 18 AND 28 BILLION dollars !!! And this is coming from someone who is in favour of ending supply management. Imagine what the Liberals would estimate the cost to be ?!?! It would seem to me that it would take a VERY long time for the average consumer to recoup the cost they would be paying in extra taxes of one form or another to pay for the 30 billion (my conservative estimate) to wind down supply management.

http://business.financialpost.com/n...agement-in-canadas-dairy-and-poultry-industry

JD
 

sybian

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Now that Bernier seems to be the defacto leader in the leadership race for the Conservative party, the end of supply management seems more possible (a bad thing from my point of view). Bernier says if he became leader and the Conservatives got into power again, he would phase out supply management. But he says the cost would be between 18 AND 28 BILLION dollars !!! And this is coming from someone who is in favour of ending supply management. Imagine what the Liberals would estimate the cost to be ?!?! It would seem to me that it would take a VERY long time for the average consumer to recoup the cost they would be paying in extra taxes of one form or another to pay for the 30 billion (my conservative estimate) to wind down supply management.

http://business.financialpost.com/n...agement-in-canadas-dairy-and-poultry-industry

JD
Never mind the 100's of thousands of people nation wide making 25 dollars an hour in the processing industries, that will be then working for 14 dollars an hour.....and losing all their benefit packages.
 

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If Canada stops producing its own food we will have to import from the American agribusiness complex.

Less family farms, more centralised ownership of the entire food production chain makes it easier for American and foreigners to buy up our food supply.
Look how Nestle is trying to buy up water supplies.


That will make rich foreigners richer. It will increase Canadian unemployment. It will increase our trade deficit.
It is vital to our own independence and well being that we are self sufficient.
Bernier is an asshole who wants to sell us all out for the benefit of his rich backers.
 

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So, tell me you didn't see this coming........






 

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I cannot stop thinking about Trump's latest move, withdrawing from the Paris Accords.

With all due respect to Chairman Mao for one of his grandest moves:

"Trump's Great Leap Backwards".
 

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risks destroying an alliance that took over ten years to consummate for the rust belt vote to get elected
 

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Plenty of Trump fans on the Montreal board.
Everything they don't like is fake news and conspiracy theories.

About 100-200 pro Trump anti Paris Treaty demonstrators were in front of the White House yesterday.
A reporter asked a guy what he thought of the treaty.
Guy says "I haven't read it but I trust Trump and that's enough for me".
Sums it up.
 

westwoody

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risks destroying an alliance that took over ten years to consummate for the rust belt vote to get elected
He told people what they wanted to hear.
He's a salesman and not a manager.
Last week he was ranting about Germany selling cars in the USA. He doesn't know BMW and Mercedes-Benz actually manufactured hundreds of thousands of vehicles in the USA and employ thousands of Americans?
The scary thing is so many believe all his crap.

The population is really dumbing down, there is a vast gulf opening up beteen the educated on one hand and the unskilled without a hope.
A large segment are angry and don't understand why. They want to blame someone for their predicament.
The UN, LIBTARDS, fake news media, furriners, them's all out Ta git us.
 

westwoody

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There was something left out of the Der Spiegel article about the Sicily meeting.

The heads of state posed for a photo op, then walked a few hundred feet to another spot for another photo session. You may have seen the pictures of six of them walking together. Except Trump. The fat lazy butterball could not waddle that far. He waited until a golf cart was fetched to carry him.

 

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Some Americans thought they were electing some kind of a Teddy Roosevelt to clean up things and put put Washington back into functioning order but they are slowly realizing that they have a James Buchanan in the making . Teddy was a war munger if you would have given him the chance but progressive minded in so many ways .

Trump is so far behind in his appointments that he will have to rely on Congress to bring forward any legislation in his first year ...or two at that pace.
 

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You know, I honestly don't think so. I think a small number of them believed Trump was some type of anti-government type that might stir things up. I think the majority of his supporters knew what they were getting because that's what they want in a leader. I think humanity underestimates how ugly we, as a species, really are.
So are you saying that the "ugly Americans" got exactly what they wanted? If so, then they are not only ugly, but also unbelievably stupid!

JD
 
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