Are Long Term Clients More Desireable Than New Clients?

[Cock Throppled]

(I'm starting this thread with a post I originally put into another thread, with a few additions, just to get some feedback.)

I always thought keeping regulars was the goal of most career SP's, but last year, two long-term SP's lost me as a client.

One dumped me, the other I stopped seeing.

First, let me say I am always polite and respectful, never push boundaries, don't negotiate, and am always on time and freshly-cleaned.

The first SP I had been seeing every 2 months or so for about 3 years and neither of us seemed to have any issues. One time I decided to visit her at night (I'm usually a daytime guy). At her door I heard shouting and threats to call police. I didn't want to get involved in a situation and left. I quickly texted her explaining why I was spooked, and didn’t feel comfortable going there. She tried to make excuse that I had just heard a TV show, and It was safe, but I know what I heard and was just too nervous to return. She told me I wasted her time and not to bother calling again. Not only did I find her reaction surprising and unprofessional, but she completely failed to understand how nervous clients can be in strange situations, even places we’ve been before. I appreciate SP’s can feel the same, too, so have always made sure to never do or say anything to make an SP feel uncomfortable. and I thought I did the right thing in trying to explain, rather than no- show. Maybe she was just looking for an excuse to not see me? Personally, I'd rather an SP would just say if she didn't want to see me.

The second SP I've been seeing around once a month for about six years. We got along great, her service was just what I wanted, we had great conversations and she often insisted I go over time so we could continue to talk. We even socialized some outside of appointments. In the past she has cancelled at the last minute, or kept me waiting up to an hour past our arranged times. Since the distance I have to travel is quite great, this has sometimes caused me problems, but l overlooked them. We had recently scheduled an appointment for a Wednesday afternoon. I texted Tuesday to confirm, again Wednesday morning and left two voice mails. Never got a response. I made other plans, and will in the future. I may be a sap, but eventually her lack of respect reached the tipping point.

Isn't a client you know, and are comfortable with less stressful than meeting someone new? Isn't a relatively regular source of income a plus? Isn't respect a two-way street?

 

[johnsmit]

I allways tried to stay with seeing a girl I was comfortable with and was easy to talk to.. Now for me it not that easy. Even though I can talk myself into seeing many different girls if I feel I want you see them.
But seeing a regular was what suited me the best.of hours I had to change up things because it get boring doing the same thing.A few girls were more open to stuff , some sexual but most none sexual.
Eventually it was more friends then client but on the occasion that I thought of asking to see them for sex , Then I would pay and nothing was said other wise.

But I think through the years the few I was regulars with really did not want to see me for sex anymore .
One has been very addimate about deswading me from seeing her in that way even though she still works part time as an escort.She said she does not want you see her friends in that way . I am OK with it but it still does not change the fact I liked seeing her for fun times.

As for girl distilling regulars some do some don't want them it seems .

 

[badbadboy]

I used to think it was a mutually beneficial circumstance with the SP and the client. I would typically see some of the ladies once or twice a month and things were pretty good for all of us in my estimation. I think at one time, I had six SP in my circle of friends that I would try to see once or twice within 3 months minimum. It seemed to work well for a while.

Then three retired, one went on 'hiatus' (sort of that Twight Zone feeling that you get when you don't know if they are working or not), and one became so increasingly unavailable that I essentially gave up trying to book her at all. Down five regulars in 2016! That year was terrible in so many ways.

During Christmas, I reevaluated what I actually enjoyed doing vs where I was going as a regular client. It finally dawned on me that I spent way too much effort attempting to book as a regular because of schedules that never seem to coordinate properly. I decided I would be a lot more discerning about who I would see and when. i.e. not necessarily regulars.

I even went back in my own old reviews to see who was pretty damn good but I stopped seeing for no reason other than me getting distracted by other providers. I stumbled across Sasha Carmelle's review from 2013 and realized she was a ton of fun back in 2013 and I should re visit her. Well, hot damn my first date of 2017 this week with Sasha was one to remember. I'll be seeing Sasha some more and more often

Also I've been seeing some excellent touring SP's such as Chloee Rose, Sydney Taylor, and Sophie STV. I try to see Chloee every time she visits, Sydney six times in 2016 and Sophie once. Essentially with these numbers they are defacto regulars for me now.

Then there is a certain lovely lady known as Catherine James with whom I have visited for tea a few times. I need to make sure we are not just Tea Buddies in 2017


So I suppose in conclusion, I've thrown out the original concept of being a regular per se and now look to a few local ladies, a few visiting ladies and keep my eye open for some new SP's who arrive on the scene.

 

[wintersurfer]

Up until recently I would of said yes, for me personably a regular is 3-4x a month, and the more time we spend together the more "gfe" the relationship becomes (talking about life, family, sports etc), but recently my "most regular" lady 150x over a few years asked me to remove her name from a thread ("breech of trust"), I have never reviewed her only mentioned her in who I have seen, so even a long term client has an "ending"...

 

[FreeG]

Interesting! I would have thought regular clients would be desired (SP is familiar with the guy, guy is reliable and trusted not to flake, a buildup of common interests makes the meeting more enjoyable for all, etc) but there have also been previous threads that talk of (some, not all) SPs who draw-back when they feel emotional lines being approached or crossed.

So maybe the sweet-spot is "semi-regular", to mean every few months vice monthly or weekly?

 

[maniacalone]

Interesting! I would have thought regular clients would be desired (SP is familiar with the guy, guy is reliable and trusted not to flake, a buildup of common interests makes the meeting more enjoyable for all, etc) but there have also been previous threads that talk of (some, not all) SPs who draw-back when they feel emotional lines being approached or crossed.

So maybe the sweet-spot is "semi-regular", to mean every few months vice monthly or weekly?

My thoughts exactly. Surprised they do not try to offer reduced rates to clientele they wish to see again. Safety, familiarity and regular income stream are obvious benefits. Enormous savings in advertising too.

 

[wintersurfer]

My thoughts exactly. Surprised they do not try to offer reduced rates to clientele they wish to see again. Safety, familiarity and regular income stream are obvious benefits. Enormous savings in advertising too.

She was normally 300+/hr, after awhile I was $400/2hr, her idea not mine...

 

[badbadboy]

Interesting! I would have thought regular clients would be desired (SP is familiar with the guy, guy is reliable and trusted not to flake, a buildup of common interests makes the meeting more enjoyable for all, etc) but there have also been previous threads that talk of (some, not all) SPs who draw-back when they feel emotional lines being approached or crossed.

So maybe the sweet-spot is "semi-regular", to mean every few months vice monthly or weekly?

You made some good points there. Generally speaking most dates even at the frequency I was doing were pretty damn good so I didn't feel the need to switch up the batting rotation. Now and then a perceived lack lustre effort type date that would make me ease up and book again say 3 to 4 months later. Usually that worked well because when I visited again, it was really good.

I don't know what goes through the heads of some SP's. I do think a steady flow of predictable revenue month by month is more advantageous than the holy shit moment they realize when the "rent is due, time for a LEO List Special."

 

[Dick Ford]

We like to think there are no strings attached, but after seeing a regular for a while, it almost becomes inevitable that some attachment will form. Then it's up to both parties to try to establish and maintain boundaries, which is never easy at that point. Regular money and the security of a regular are great, but sometimes the emotional attachment is just too much for a "casual" relationship.

 

[tadolder]

You made some good points there. Generally speaking most dates even at the frequency I was doing were pretty damn good so I didn't feel the need to switch up the batting rotation. Now and then a perceived lack lustre effort type date that would make me ease up and book again say 3 to 4 months later. Usually that worked well because when I visited again, it was really good.

I don't know what goes through the heads of some SP's. I do think a steady flow of predictable revenue month by month is more advantageous than the holy shit moment they realize when the "rent is due, time for a LEO List Special."

I completely agree! Being a regular has it's advantages, for both parties.

 

[Todq22]

I don't find that many SP show appreciation for regular customers.

In fact they often become complacent.

Very often the first time is the best, when they try particularly hard to try to convince you to become a regular!

 

[maniacalone]

I don't find that many SP show appreciation for regular customers.

In fact they often become complacent.

Very often the first time is the best, when they try particularly hard to try to convince you to become a regular!

West Coast Angels have a frequent flyer program in place to reward their client base. Hard to implement for independent types who could retire, get a boyfriend or decide to travel the world at a moments notice. However, a reduced returning visitor rate would probably work and improve their monthly bottom line numbers after you take out the extra advertising and end of month make the rent "specials" expense.

 

[Warl0ck]

Speaking entirely from my own experience generally SP's seemed to prefer regulars. The most common complaint I heard was that sometimes regulars felt it was OK to push boundaries because there was a familiarity. Sometimes some guys forget this is not a relationship, it's a business relationship. (two very different things). And regular doesn't necessarily mean safer. Some years back an SP who was part of this forum was violently assaulted by a regular. She left the industry and to my knowledge never returned.

As to why an SP might cut you loose, well only she knows and it's not likely she'd tell ya anyway.

 

[who]

We like to think there are no strings attached, but after seeing a regular for a while, it almost becomes inevitable that some attachment will form. Then it's up to both parties to try to establish and maintain boundaries, which is never easy at that point. Regular money and the security of a regular are great, but sometimes the emotional attachment is just too much for a "casual" relationship.

This is the porblem with a regular SP, Better off to see three different ones so an emotional attachment does not occur because you might not understand it but it will.

 

[1nitestan]

1. Doesn't matter if you're regular, occasional or new....at the end of the day, the money is the same. Especially true if the provider is popular. She can pick and choose at her discretion. One misunderstanding and she'll dump you for someone new and exciting. (monkey branching). If someone dumps you so quickly over a situation where you felt uneasy, then she didn't value the respect you gave her in the past.

2. No matter how hot, or amazing a girl is, some dude is tired of her bullshit. Applies to all women.

There are increasingly few real professionals out there and the sex trade is no exception.

 

[Equity Market investor]

I use to think long term clients would be the preferred way to go for these ladies. Common sense, especially in this industry. But then you read in threads, long term clients, both men and woman developing emotional feelings for one another ----- or only one does-- forcing the relationship to end.

So, when you read related stories to that, you can't win and I don't think there is a concrete answer. Its on the individual's. Both can be fucked up imho.

At the end of the day, its the money that comes first before 2nd step is taken. And then.......once she retires altogether, all ties are broken permanently. So in the end it doesn't matter one bit.

 

[Cock Throppled]

I can totally see where emotional attachments on either side could make an SP back off.

SP's have often said one reason they like me as a client is that I know it's a business relationship, so it's unlikely that was a factor in either of my examples.

 

[LalaniElectrica]

While in general I enjoy new people and making new connections, it adds to the spice of life and sometimes it can turn into a longer term relationship.

I much prefer making a connection on various levels, so I enjoy longer time visitors since we have more history. I do enjoy new people as well although until trust is established, it's always good to be on your best behaviour and keep things to the point, from both sides. Too much explicit talk right off the bat is a red flag and too many repetitive questions asked week after week means it's probably less likely to happen so in that sort of situation, I'd make time for the person I know and trust. Being on my side of the counter, is a bit of a different perspective. So I go with my instincts, safety and comfort are so important with this level of intimacy.

As much as I enjoy regulars, I don't expect everyone to become a regular. There are certain things they may enjoy with me, and certain things they may enjoy with other women. It's not really my place to say if a person wants to become a regular, it is entirely up to them, if they enjoy the way they feel when they are with me, it would be determined by the mutual chemistry established in that moment. Sometimes it lasts for a few weeks, a few months, or a few years or for life. Things happen in life that change us, and the beauty of the entire thing is there are no strings attached, no expectations, except of course, a fun time

p.s. to the op Cock Throppled: maybe she dropped her phone or accidentally added your # to spam through a unusual series of pocket dialing. I'm sure you will find another lady but I've had it happen to me that I lost entire conversations etc due to human error or a technical malfunction. Hopefully that's all it is, and good luck to you!

 

[tdhmale]

I personally think it's good idea to become a regular and even somewhat more "monogamous" in the development of the NSA relationship.(if that makes sense) haha
Everyone would have their own reasons for wanting to see more than one, but personally, myself, when finding one that is compatible with all my needs, then there
is no need to diversify. Maybe some get bored or feel the need for a new face, but sometimes it maybe something as simple as one can't give all a persons' needs
so another one is visited to find a solution. I had a friend who was married and he only had one complaint about his sex life. She would not give BJ's, not even CBJ's.
So he went out and found a discreet casual encounter once in awhile to take care of that end.

 

[Lady Companion]

I keep a smaller circle of very regular suitors, with a few new or less frequent visitors to spice things up.

Personally I love developing a non traditional relationship with my special friends. Getting to really know one another on multiple levels really enhances all parts of the experience. You know what turns the other person on, and the interaction goes well beyond the physical.

However, the closer you get, the more clear you need to be with communication. The feelings are real, and can be more intense than in a primary relationship. Yes, it's a business transaction. But trumping that, it is a human interaction. Some ladies like to have very clearly defined personal emotional boundaries, which becomes more challenging as time goes on. For them, the option is to provide a mechanical service, or to let go of those they become too close to.