I agree with you here Warl0ck. Technology has always been an isolating factor that brings out the worst in many people. Just look at how some people act when they are behind the steering wheels of their cars. Brings out the animal in them. Computers and phones have the same effect, isolating people from one another, which destroys empathy and thus leads us towards treating other people in less than human ways. My question is, if it's already this bad now, where are we headed with technology getting an ever greater hold over our society?
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This has turned into another "kids these days" thread. I don't see more rudeness now than in previous generations.
I was a teenager and young adult in the sixties and seventies, the era of the original hippies. They were my contemporaries, and I have to say, there was a high proportion of self-absorbed pricks in that generation, using a guise of idealism to justify rudeness to their elders and anyone else who didn't share their particular "ideals".
I'm not suggesting that our current youth are a bunch of saints. They have their share of people in adult bodies who haven't grown up yet. However, I don't buy the idea that they're any worse than we were. What I have noticed is that when I'm with a group of my contemporaries, there's a lot of grumbling about young people. We, the hippie generation, have become our grandparents.
I was a teenager and young adult in the sixties and seventies, the era of the original hippies. They were my contemporaries, and I have to say, there was a high proportion of self-absorbed pricks in that generation, using a guise of idealism to justify rudeness to their elders and anyone else who didn't share their particular "ideals".
I'm not suggesting that our current youth are a bunch of saints. They have their share of people in adult bodies who haven't grown up yet. However, I don't buy the idea that they're any worse than we were. What I have noticed is that when I'm with a group of my contemporaries, there's a lot of grumbling about young people. We, the hippie generation, have become our grandparents.
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I can't speak for the others but I'm not referring to "kids these days". I'm referring to a wide swath of society of all ages and that includes senior citizens. People are nasty and polarized. They can't have civil conversations anymore or debate things. Worse, it seems we're almost accepting of this and I think some of us enjoy deriding and destroying other people. Just because we can. It's fucking bullshit. Maybe we should aim higher.
I just spent a long day riding crowded buses, the Canada Line, and a ferry to get from downtown Vancouver to downtown Victoria. I saw quite a few people going out of their way to be courteous and polite to their fellow travelers. I guess I saw more people just lost in their own worlds and not interacting much. I don't remember seeing a single instance of deliberate or even careless rudeness.
Perhaps I just live in my own little Polyanna world. But I choose not to think so. And if I do live in Polyanna World, well, I like it here.
Perhaps I just live in my own little Polyanna world. But I choose not to think so. And if I do live in Polyanna World, well, I like it here.
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Oh, there are good people. We're not that far gone. I just think that the pendulum seems to be leaning toward the nasty side of the equation. Now, if you talk to a person who works in customer service, their opinion is usually very different on people. I just hope that the next trend is "being nice and dressing well"
I agree on the being nice idea. The dressing well is very difficult as people have different fashion tastes. I think people should wear whatever they like. If you are unhappy with what others are wearing, it's your problem. And none of your business. I have a friend that always makes comments about guys wearing low riding pants. I tell her to chill. Personally, I think it looks stupid and is impractical but so are high heals.
I'm always clean, smell good, and am usually very polite, but I'll always wear what I like.
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Fair enough. But I'd counter that I think dress can play a big part in how someone feels & views themselves. If you dress like a gangster, you feel like one. I think it's all part of who we are. I'm not a dress code type, I think it should be optional especially in school. But, as a personal decision, I think it's positive to dress well. It puts you in that mindset.
Absolutely... I spend a lot of time trying to navigate a big pick up truck through South Surrey grocery store parking lots. One in particular is very tight & frequented by more seniors. I am often as not as appalled by the lack of manners from people my own age or older as I am by their kids' behaviour. That's where the kids learn it from, after all...
Agreed on this one. Mind you, the Lower Mainland isn't set up for people who choose to drive big pickups. I spend a fair bit of time with my truck in Northern Nevada. Those people understand what pickups are for and what the folks who drive them need. Streets are wide. Parking slots are wide. And people, by and large, are pretty courteous.
Actually, it's been my experience that in the rural western states, god and guns country, where Donald Trump got the vote, people are for the most part courteous and friendly, ready to help each other and strangers passing through. Maybe there's something about knowing the person you're interacting with likely has a gun handy, that motivates politeness?
Not that I'm advocating for guns. I don't really like having them around.
I think your being self centered
when I was a young, I came from a very abusive situation.
its like fuck please and thank, just leave me the fuck alone
I remember having cancer,
I was not in the mood to say please and thankyou, for a very long time.
I remember a court case, that went on for a year I was involved in, it was like have a nice day some fucking place else.
this year was a bad, year, I just want to be left alone, not in the mood to say please and thankyou.
but im coming out of it, looking at people and acknowledging them,,
my point is, it is not all about you,
you have no idea what that person next to you is going through.
when I was a young, I came from a very abusive situation.
its like fuck please and thank, just leave me the fuck alone
I remember having cancer,
I was not in the mood to say please and thankyou, for a very long time.
I remember a court case, that went on for a year I was involved in, it was like have a nice day some fucking place else.
this year was a bad, year, I just want to be left alone, not in the mood to say please and thankyou.
but im coming out of it, looking at people and acknowledging them,,
my point is, it is not all about you,
you have no idea what that person next to you is going through.
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Warl0ck
I guess I'd ask how hard is it to be polite? Say please, say thank you, and resist the urge to say something negative when you're stressed out.
Wasn't it Al Capone who said, " You can get further with a kind word and a gun, than you can with just a kind word."
Oh yes almost forgot. About the courteous thing. Two of my neighbours a few days ago when we
had the first snows went and shovelled the walks and driveways of several houses above my
place and below. When it snowed the next time they came out and did it all over again.
Kinda restores my faith in humanity. What a great few neighbours I have. BIg smile here!
Gotta get them both something nice for Xmas for doing that.
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When people hate on the younger generation, they don't seem to realize that the younger generation was raised by the older generation, so where do you think they learn their habits from? :lol: :lol:
Heck I grew up watching and idolizing people who were born in the 1970s-1980's, and now when I look at them, they seem to act the same as they always did and its even more obvious that us millennials picked up their annoying habits (the annoying usage of the word "like, ummm like" kim kardashian type ditzy talk), and they got it from their elders, and so on.
Heck I grew up watching and idolizing people who were born in the 1970s-1980's, and now when I look at them, they seem to act the same as they always did and its even more obvious that us millennials picked up their annoying habits (the annoying usage of the word "like, ummm like" kim kardashian type ditzy talk), and they got it from their elders, and so on.
Every older generation complains about the "younger generation." Hell, I grew up in the 60's and 70's and our parents were complaining about us. Mind you, they probably had a right to with all the changes that were taking place back then. Sex, drugs and rockin roll, lol.
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Yeah, in the 80's the old timers considered 2 earrings proof you were gay & all metal heads were Satanic. In the 90's it was Generation Cobain & Gen X (me) were a bunch of lazy, do nothing slackers with a bad sense of fashion. Now it's the lazy millennials (thanks for all that software) and the outrage over playing Pokemon Go. And music was better back then (until you listen to 80's on 8 on SiriusXM ;-). The major difference with today is the widespread adoption of technology. That's the real issue
