Crime Stoppers Billboard in Vancouver

[Man Mountain]

A couple of hours ago, as I was headed home, I noticed a billboard in the MacDonald's parking lot at Kingsway and Victoria Drive in Vancouver. The Crime Stoppers logo is featured across the top and it reads "Buying Sex is a Crime." It's a rotating billboard with two other ads in the rotation, so I couldn't read it all quickly enough but doing a quick google search makes me believe that it may be in affiliation with the following group (there was a url on the billboard as well -- this is probably it but again, it rotated too quickly for me to be sure)

http://thetraffickedhuman.org/media-resources

 

[johnsmit]

Holy f@#$ .
Yah that's what the law says and I am awear that there has been underage girl in the sex trade..

But are they trafficked ?????? Are they exploited????
There Web sit says 40% are under age , and yet no one in canada has been convicted of trafficking .How many white girls have been rescued.

I don't disagree with what they stated as the reason why women are in prostitution .I do object to the conclusion that we are responsible for them being in it if we offer to pay ,if we agree to pay what they are asking for the services that the women is offering.

Some more total word speak and ambiguity of this F@#$ up law.

If these groups and their goverment supporters wants to get women out if prostitution ,keep girls out-of the hand of pimps and stop any kind-of domestic or international trafficking and sexual slavery , then put money and lots of it into programs to give women and teens options for a better life..Where is this helps that was going to be inplace with the new law .

There is no help .The money is all ready gone ,most squandered on administration and some trickle down to bious groups like this for their form of morel police state

That what I have to say about that type of bill board .
As for the sex trade I do have more to say and l admit my attitude and acceptance of prostitution has changed or realized a number of different dimension to what we as clients are responsible for and not responsible for .

Whence there is a reasonable ability of freedom of choice on the women part to determine if they want sell sexual services ,the law says they can ,and at no time is the client the cause of that action if they have not offered to pay them for sexual services before hand .. That's where these groups propaganda and the law is out to lunch when they say that buying their time and paying for what is legal offered is now not only a crime but that we are the peritrators are the peritrators of slaving, helping traffic and sexually assaulting and exploiting these women. . They maybe victim, but mainly victims of their own choices , and in many case they can make another choice.

I personally though the years have tried to help some girls and women make a different choice .Some times it worked other times it does not .

Where as l still see women for there services I beleave they are making the choice of their own free will and has nothing to do with me or my willingNess to pay for their time and company .

 

[summerbreeze]

that area is almost rivaling the Joyce street area as the poon capital of the lower mainland

5 spa locations and always a few indies in the area

getting to be the smorgasbord of Asian spas, a few legit locations as well and tons of hair and beauty salons

good one stop shopping, get your foot massage at one place, haircut at another, manicure, pedicure at another (if that's your thing) and follow up with a steam bath and FS massage at Xanadu (if you can tolerate the bait and switch nonsense) or a R&T at one of the other places

don't forget to get a Vietnamese ice coffee with one of those fabulous bahn min sandwiches as well

no wonder the neighborhood is reacting

 

[Caramel]

how can they expect change in the prostitution world without worrying about anything else? As long as there is this kind of capitalism and a huge gap between wealthy and poor, and with college tuition so high, there will always be problems with money. Do these abolitionists really expect a girl who may already be a highly sexual being, to work her ass off at mcdonalds and retail stores breaking her back while juggling course loads, all in world filled with obscene images and porn and temptation.? While still not making ends meet.

 

[summerbreeze]

It's called a democracy.....
Everybody has an opinion, we go by majority
Doesn't mean it's right or wrong, just what the majority want
In terms of enforcement, a healthy amount of common sense is also used in most cases
My only comment is that when something like a spa which is really nothing more than a brothel is side by side places children and the whole family go, then there is going to be problems.
In terms of working and paying your bills, don't think anyone cares what you do as long as it doesn't hurt anyone

 

[Tugela]

It's called a democracy.....
Everybody has an opinion, we go by majority
Doesn't mean it's right or wrong, just what the majority want
In terms of enforcement, a healthy amount of common sense is also used in most cases
My only comment is that when something like a spa which is really nothing more than a brothel is side by side places children and the whole family go, then there is going to be problems.
In terms of working and paying your bills, don't think anyone cares what you do as long as it doesn't hurt anyone

As long as people are not having sex in the street, I don't see what the problem is if it were next door. It is not like these places are super obvious, and the clients are not going to go next door to start assaulting the neighbors.

People have sex in the building next door to families all the time, every day and on every street.

 

[summerbreeze]

great thing about a democracy is everyone is free to their own opinion

 

[Cock Throppled]

It's called a democracy.....
Everybody has an opinion, we go by majority
Doesn't mean it's right or wrong, just what the majority want
In terms of enforcement, a healthy amount of common sense is also used in most cases
My only comment is that when something like a spa which is really nothing more than a brothel is side by side places children and the whole family go, then there is going to be problems.
In terms of working and paying your bills, don't think anyone cares what you do as long as it doesn't hurt anyone

Since when did a majority matter?

The Conservatives put in the Canadian Nordic model law against all informed and, I believe majority submisssions.

Thses people are on a witch hunt and couldn't care whether a majority opposes what they want.

 

[CanineCowboy]

Locally, Reza Moazami was convicted of human trafficking minors. We should all be aware that it is a real problem.

 

[marsvolta]

thetrafficedhuman.org are organized and have financial backing.

what needs to happen is the same for sex workers. legitimate sex workers need to form an organization and collect donations from people on boards such as this one and fight back in the same manner... hire lobbyists, news paper ads, billboards etc.

 

[johnsmit]

That was all ready tried befor the new law came in
It kind of backfired.

 

[Man Mountain]

In my travels around the greater Vancouver area today, I saw a bus stop poster for this campaign today and it is indeed that group's link on the poster. Given the prominence of the "Crime Stoppers" logo and phone number on the billboard (and poster), my initial impression was that this was in fact a Crime Stoppers campaign. That's why I was rather taken aback by it when I first saw it yesterday. Especially given the public guidelines of the VPD as have been shared thru various media sources. I now believe that my initial impression was incorrect and the campaign is actually from this traffickedhuman organization.

I still have to wonder how Crime Stoppers is affiliated with this though.

 

[summerbreeze]

Its possible that this organization is using Crime Stoppers as its collection system for information related to human trafficking. It gives anonymous information forwarding capability which hopefully can help some of the people trapped in a trafficking scenario. Doubt this will widely impact the non-trafficked providers out there much.

Not sure how they intend to get enough evidence for prosecution but may get tipped off on locations worthy of a raid.

I have not seen the poster or billboards yet but if this is against the human traffickers, probably a good thing. How much impact on others, too early to say.

 

[johnsmit]

Most evidence out there .says there is very little human trafficking on the west coast .. The resent case in Washington state ,which was on going for 4 yrs and did lead to charges against a number of people involved in review and advertising board down there . Even those charges were altered in plea bargaining. And trafficking was never proven because it did not exist.

Withe this group any one that pays for sex is trafficking and exploiting women , that is their bottom line .

 

[MonaBardot]

Who wants to fund something like this?!

 

[johnsmit]

Personally I don't think strait up we are sex workers campaign works. It did not go over the top well before the new law was passed.
And it did not work in the courts either

Parts of the old law were denied concostitutional on the rights of people to have safe work and living environment not on there right to supply sex for pay .

Some of those issues were addressed on the surface with the new law
But in the end sex workers and buyers lost ground .

Now this law still makes the work environment unsafe and that is where it has to go back to court.
As for the rights of a women to offer sex for pay and accepting that people are willing to and want to pay for sex, that still is not acceptable to the average person or accepted to speak about it openly .

To many social, morel , religious and even physiologic reason for not be accepted .
And then the stigma , labels and judgements.

A sign saying we are sex works and want to supply sexual services to men is not going to do much . Just make you a target .
And on top if it it still not legal for the guy to buy those services.
That is the first thing that has to be regain , the right to pay someone for the services they are freely and legally allowed to offer.