Finding Sugar Babies on Seeking Arrangement

[newatit]

Thanks Bellec. Nice to have your agreement on that point. Your earlier note asked what guys thought about an average payment. Kind of a case by case here as you say. I helped one friend of a few years through nursing school over a year long course and well let's just say it was expensive but she made it and now is in a better situation. Gone from me too because of a job opportunity and I encouraged the departure. But we had a guaranteed payments plan only for the school period. And before that we travelled a lot. Another gal from SA had never left the Vancouver area and she was on a as you go basis and happy with that. We travelled lots too ending up in many places she had only dreamed of. One day soon she well have a vastly improved life thanks to our time together. Not the money but the tutoring and self improvement encouragement.
So I have slowed down now but looking back really think a good mark was left and most of my associates still think kindly of our times. I do hope you have the same experience and too bad u are in Calgary

 

[shyguy100]

I tried to setup an initial date with a first time SA girl I just met last night. She's already giving me the run around. I did some more investigation and it turns out she is an independent SP as well. I'm new to the SeekingArrangeennts website but it looks as if there are a lot of SPs on there, not just a few.

We are still negotiating a price and arrangement and we have not decided on a price yet, I told her I will not be able to pay her until the weekend when my next paycheque comes in but she still says she wants to meet and have sex right away (she said forget the coffee lets just see how we do together.) I suppose some of these girls might be a little flakey but is this a warning sign? I mean she is an SP but not asking me for money yet but still wants to have sex right away before we even talk over the arrangement. We did roughly talk about $400-500 donation bi-weekly but it wasn't solid yet. I'm just wondering if she's going to hit me up when I arrive at the door that tonight will cost $300 without me bbeing prepared for it.

I wasn't going to tell her but I guesss I should just confront her beforehand by phone and say I know she advertises and is an SP. It would seem, although I could be wrong, that she isn't taking an Arrangement seriously in the first place.

Most are very flakey especially if you low ball them under 400-500, typically 500 will get you a dinner date and maybe some intimacy if you have a hotel booked. In my experienced I've paid 1000 and I had the girl all night and she even stayed to have breakfast. We also text/chat throughout the week/month. I've done meet per basis 500-1000/date depending on if she slept over.

 

[Belleyyc]

500$/date ( 2 to 5 hours dinner date, depending) seemed to be the average for me in the past.
I think it's good to communicate outside the dates(when possible depending on marital situation) , traveling is great too because lots of ladies dream of traveling but chances of making that happening are slim.
And sometimes, girls are just a big mess and need a little coaching in life and need to be pushed in the right direction. Not necessarily a sexy thing to do but as mentioned in the discussion, it's something to look back to and be proud of and she'll always be grateful for (hopefully unless she's a brat!)

Mentoring and sport sponsorship ( I was trying to get into dressage more seriously..) are things I was looking for (still welcome obviously!).

 

[newatit]

John I would suggest you drop this one unless you just want an out an out SP. Nothing wrong with that but you seem to be looking for more and more does exist. Keep going. As stated by another a lot of the gals on SA are SP and tend to overshadow the less professional ones. Aim a little lower.

 

[Cami Parker]

Funny thing about SA... It implies to ladies that they will easily find the type of arrangement Belle mentioned, while implying to men that they can have the type of thing you gents have mentioned... Pay for play off the clock cheaper than an escort. Neither are right or wrong but it's easy to see how expectations become mismatched.

 

[westcoast555]

Funny thing about SA... It implies to ladies that they will easily find the type of arrangement Belle mentioned, while implying to men that they can have the type of thing you gents have mentioned... Pay for play off the clock cheaper than an escort. Neither are right or wrong but it's easy to see how expectations become mismatched.

There's a lot of people looking for different things on there. The hot little college coed looking for some extra cash on the side who is just exploring the possibility of getting paid to have a little fun and get commitment free sex without dealing with a douchebag boyfriend... definitely the unicorn we all love but the good news is she DOES exist.

That said, there's only one Cami Parker.... and that is a different type of unicorn altogether. I think I need to pay you a visit soon to relive some past glories Ms. Parker. xo

 

[clu]

This is definitely the gem I would want or dream about.

However, I find the escorts advertising on seeking arrangements confusing. I mean if they can get $1500-$2500 for a sleep over from a serious client. Why would they bother with a bi-weekly or monthly arrangement for about the same amount that would probably give the client MUCH more freedom. I mean I can understand they just want to relax and enjoy someone's company but it also does not fit the SP mentality that I have seen. ADDITIONALLY, if they are still escorting when they make an arrangement, would they really put you first among another client that could easily give them that $250-$500 or more for an hour or two that they can sneak in behind their SD's back.

In many industries, suppliers give quantity discounts if you're willing to buy in bulk, or if it's off peak hours or the like. Perhaps it's like that?

 

[deathreborn]

Tried a little experiment and put a profile up. did not fall for their hook of having to pay the $100 monthly fee to be able to message anyone. anyways my profile has been getting messages and favorited from girls not even in this country. places like the southern states and asia. only a couple from around here, yvr and bellingham. one is an obvious sp of sort xxxooomiababyxxxoo. seems like alot of fake profiles that send auto messages to get you to pay that monthly fee. not really much in the way of real women.

 

[papillion]

Tried a little experiment and put a profile up. did not fall for their hook of having to pay the $100 monthly fee to be able to message anyone. anyways my profile has been getting messages and favorited from girls not even in this country. places like the southern states and asia. only a couple from around here, yvr and bellingham. one is an obvious sp of sort xxxooomiababyxxxoo. seems like alot of fake profiles that send auto messages to get you to pay that monthly fee. not really much in the way of real women.

I tried SA for a few months, got zilch, I think most of the profiles are fake.
Eventually, after alot of effort, I found a SB from craigslist and thing are great.
Good $ugar babes are out there, maybe cast a wider net if you want to find one

 

[newatit]

Papillon and others have it right. There are flakes and good ones on SA but then same everywhere else too. Works for some.

 

[westcoast555]

Tried a little experiment and put a profile up. did not fall for their hook of having to pay the $100 monthly fee to be able to message anyone. anyways my profile has been getting messages and favorited from girls not even in this country. places like the southern states and asia. only a couple from around here, yvr and bellingham. one is an obvious sp of sort xxxooomiababyxxxoo. seems like alot of fake profiles that send auto messages to get you to pay that monthly fee. not really much in the way of real women.

Dude, trust me it's loaded with hot young women. Yeah you get stupid messages from girls in Ukraine, Philippines etc. but if you pony up the money to message local women believe me they are there. I've been doing this for 2 years and never in my life have I had this much fun.

 

[JimDandy]

Dude, trust me it's loaded with hot young women. Yeah you get stupid messages from girls in Ukraine, Philippines etc. but if you pony up the money to message local women believe me they are there. I've been doing this for 2 years and never in my life have I had this much fun.

You could likely start up a little cottage industry finding the gems on SA and passing them on to guys unable to find them or unwilling to spend the time needed to gain the expertise required to find them. Might pay better than your day job

 

[Edward Lei]

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It's a crap shoot at best and really not much different than the local SP scene. And yes, there are quite a few local SPs on SA - my estimate is at least 20 to 25% of the active profiles are working SPs. Most of the girls on there are not idiots and can see one coming from a mile away. For the majority of them, the name of the game is $. If you don't got any, they don't want anything to do with you - 300 to 400 is the typical MINIMUM per date and girls typically ask for 500+. I see a lot of 6s, sprinkled in with some 7s - the 8s and 9s aren't exactly a dime a dozen so again, not much different than the SP scene. You really have to put in a lot of time and effort to find a hot young one that understands proper discretion that won't cost you an arm and a leg. And don't get me started on the flakes and time wasters.

If you have the $ to spare and time for it, then it may work out. But for the most part, most pooners are probably better served with SPs on LL and BP.

 

[westcoast555]

You could likely start up a little cottage industry finding the gems on SA and passing them on to guys unable to find them or unwilling to spend the time needed to gain the expertise required to find them. Might pay better than your day job

Haha... maybe. We have life personal trainers, career coaches and now life coaches. Maybe a 'pooning coach' business would be viable. I really could show some people a few things I've learned. I have a good nose for this stuff. Lucky me

 

[Belleyyc]

The name of the game is MONEY for a lot of guys too by the way.
This one dude I met was stupidly LOADED . offered me to pay for everything I needed/could ever want. Well believe or not I've walked away BECAUSE that's all what he had : money. No values. He was like a big child with his Vancouver penthouse and hookers and blow. I don't want that.

 

[HunkyBill]

It's a crap shoot at best and really not much different than the local SP scene. And yes, there are quite a few local SPs on SA - my estimate is at least 20 to 25% of the active profiles are working SPs. Most of the girls on there are not idiots and can see one coming from a mile away. For the majority of them, the name of the game is $. If you don't got any, they don't want anything to do with you - 300 to 400 is the typical MINIMUM per date and girls typically ask for 500+. I see a lot of 6s, sprinkled in with some 7s - the 8s and 9s aren't exactly a dime a dozen so again, not much different than the SP scene. You really have to put in a lot of time and effort to find a hot young one that understands proper discretion that won't cost you an arm and a leg. And don't get me started on the flakes and time wasters.

If you have the $ to spare and time for it, then it may work out. But for the most part, most pooners are probably better served with SPs on LL and BP.

Edward is spot-on.

There are different categories on SA:

1. NEGOTIABLE I don't have a set expectation
2. MINIMAL Up to $ 1,000 monthly
3. PRACTICAL Up to $ 3,000 monthly
4. MODERATE Up to $ 5,000 monthly
5. SUBSTANTIAL Up to $ 10,000 monthly
6. HIGH More than $ 10,000 monthly

In the end, it really comes down to how much you want to spend, plus, by and large, these girls are typically very very choosy. They just won't hook up with any Tom, Dick, or Harry regardless of how much they are offered.

 

[westcoast555]

Edward is spot-on.

There are different categories on SA:

1. NEGOTIABLE I don't have a set expectation
2. MINIMAL Up to $ 1,000 monthly
3. PRACTICAL Up to $ 3,000 monthly
4. MODERATE Up to $ 5,000 monthly
5. SUBSTANTIAL Up to $ 10,000 monthly
6. HIGH More than $ 10,000 monthly

In the end, it really comes down to how much you want to spend, plus, by and large, these girls are typically very very choosy. They just won't hook up with any Tom, Dick, or Harry regardless of how much they are offered.

You have to screen, there are some girls on there that want you to pay them just to hang out. Probably there some clowns that will go for that. There are others looking to have 'online' relationships where they send you pics etc.
Personally I don't even bother with any girl that doesn't list her expectation as "negotiable"

There are some airheads who are clearly mercenary just looking to land a Richard Gere type a la 'Pretty Woman'. Good luck to them
You have to find the girls who just want a little extra cash and don't mind being real about it.

And yeah if you're past a certain age, not in shape, or have personality deficits you will not be successful. These are girls that are dipping their toe in the water and chemistry is essential. Otherwise stick with a "commercial" SP.
The price you'll pay is at the level of a higher end escort - minimum $300 and more likely $400.
And also make sure you don't fall in love with them. My God some of them are just delightful. It's like being with a Cactus Club waitress... treat them with respect and you will have fun.

 

[HunkyBill]

treat them with respect and you will have fun.

IF, you can hook up with them, lol. Even on Tinder with a fake profile and fake pic I only had very few who even wanted to chat. Just like with Vancouver and Seattle real estate, it's a seller's market out there.

 

[westcoast555]

IF, you can hook up with them, lol. Even on Tinder with a fake profile and fake pic I only had very few who even wanted to chat. Just like with Vancouver and Seattle real estate, it's a seller's market out there.

There's definitely a lot of flakes... but I get solicited a lot. One of the girls told me there's 6 to 1 ratio. The best girls are looking for somebody who is straight up, will pay them, not try to make them their GF, not try to scam them, treat them with respect and help them out.

I have learned which ones to avoid and I think I got lucky early in the process. I focus on girls between 20-25 who are in their adventurous phase. I think after that they start to get very mercenary and a little jaded.

Believe me start throwing $100 bills around and you'll do a lot better than Tinder

 

[HunkyBill]

Hehe. I guess I am attracted to the ones then who have very high expectations, typically asians.