Donald Trump

[87112]

Trump is going to be his Ass handed to me in November. He has no clue
http://www.usnews.com/news/articles...cans-leave-the-us-than-come-across-the-border

I live in a place where there are lot of Latinos. They do jobs no one will take or desire like landscaping, cleaning motels, fast food. Without them white people would do it at 2-3 dollars more an hour and create inflation. Plus the Mexicans have opened up lots of Taco Trucks in my area driving down food prices since they don't tax the food and generally speaking its a cheaper meal than fast food.

 

[JY KELLY]

Changes to the First and Second Amendments would be political suicide. Never gonna happen. There may be crazy loopholes closed like not allowing people on the security watch list not being able to get a weapon. Or full background checks when buying guns at flea markets. Or people with mental health issues not being easily licenced.

The “legal groundwork” for confiscation is already in place. This last point overlaps the previous one somewhat. But the California example serves as a blueprint for Democrats at the federal level, who have long been looking for ways to confiscate firearms.

In California, expanded background checks led to registration, which was complimented with confiscatory laws. On the national front, when Obama announced executive gun controls that included an expansion of background checks, he inched America as a whole further down the path California has been traveling for some time. Whereas some gun owners took solace in the fact that Obama’s gun controls appeared minimally invasive, and others correctly observed that the new controls will be impotent to stop mass shootings, many missed the larger point, which is that the purpose of the controls is not really to stop mass shootings in the here-and-now, but to incrementally expand government oversight into the exercise of Second Amendment rights. This expansion brings the Democrats closer and closer to the day Democrat presidential hopeful Hillary Clinton pointed to when she suggested an Australian-style gun ban is “worth looking at” for gun policy in America.
They already have changed the second amendment....Look at California..The land of nuts.. More gun control equals more deaths..
..... To your point about the the "SECURITY WATCH LIST" we have a thing called, DUE PROCESS here. You can get on the watch list with no real way to get off of it without spending a lot of money and going to court.. If being on that list would stop someone from buying a firearm for protection the democrats would put everyone on that list.. It's just how the dems do it...

 

[JY KELLY]

Yes Trump is a biggot. Listen to the words coming out of his mouth. And you think he can't be ruled by self-interest because he has enough money? Self-interest is his defining characteristic.

The thing people don't seem to be acknowledging about politicians is that they have to address all their constituents and find a middle ground... That's as big a reason why their positions shift. Trump is addressing only one constituent: himself, and only by coincidence anyone else who happens to agree with him. So if you happen to agree with him you ignore his faults and call it refreshing that there's a candidate who seems to be speaking to you. But it's not your country. You have to share.

A politician that shifts their position to agree with the greatest number of people isn't being dishonest, in a democracy that's just doing their job.

Do you have any examples of Trump being a bigot?.. Where are the people that work for Trump calling him a bigot... Dr Ben Carson doesn't seem to think he's a bigot or racist?
...In 2014, 1.3 million foreign-born individuals moved to the United States, an 11 percent increase from 1.2 million in 2013. India was the leading country of origin for new immigrants, with 147,500 arriving in 2014, followed by China with 131,800, Mexico with 130,000, Canada with 41,200, and the Philippines with 40,500... Do you lock your doors at night or through the day? Shouldn't we get to say WHO we share with, much like you do at your house? OR, should there be no borders?

 

[JY KELLY]

Trump is going to be his Ass handed to me in November. He has no clue
http://www.usnews.com/news/articles...cans-leave-the-us-than-come-across-the-border

I live in a place where there are lot of Latinos. They do jobs no one will take or desire like landscaping, cleaning motels, fast food. Without them white people would do it at 2-3 dollars more an hour and create inflation. Plus the Mexicans have opened up lots of Taco Trucks in my area driving down food prices since they don't tax the food and generally speaking its a cheaper meal than fast food.

Illegal immigrants in fact absorb far more in benefits than they contribute. The Heritage Foundation in 2013 found that illegals contribute an average of $10,000 in total taxes (federal and payroll as well as local taxes) but use almost $24,000 in welfare and services, creating a net $14,000 per capita gain per illegal worker....
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With benefits like that -- and a president determined to shower even more on them -- it's little wonder the world's impoverished feel the red carpet is out for them to come here illegally....The schools are filled up with children of illegals who can't read or writh English. That means that the teacher needs to take more time with those students and guess who doesn't get help? YEP, the kids that are American and whose parents pay the taxes...
... People love the "FREE STUUF" from the democrat party...

 

[JY KELLY]

There is NOO way Trump gets elected.
In 2016, being Black or being a woman is NOO impediment to winning this election. Back in the Jesse Jackson time, yes. But in 2008, Barack Obama was SOO smart and well-spoken, I had NOO doubt he'd win, or be re-elected. Besides, John McCain and Mitt Romney were not worthy. They were sacrificial lambs, and so is Trump.

....There is NOO way Trump gets elected... Based on what? Your guess?...LOL.. Polls suck but here you go.. Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton’s lead over Republican rival Donald Trump narrowed to less than 3 percentage points, according to a Reuters/Ipsos opinion poll released on Friday, down from nearly eight points on Monday. I(f we actually had a honest media, one not in the tank for crooked Hillary, Trump would be up by 10% points, right now....Take that to the bank.... Have you seen the huge, long lines of people waiting to get into Trump's rallys, compared to the meager lines of people waiting to see crooked Hillary...
About 42 percent of likely voters favored Clinton, to Trump’s 39 percent, according to the July 31-Aug. 4 online poll of 1,154 likely voters. The poll had a credibility interval of plus or minus 3 percentage points, meaning that the results suggest the race is roughly even... Everytime there is another of the killer moslem attacks here or in Europe more people will be voting for Trump... Take that to the bank.. The moslems imported to Europe are working out so well there.. A new attack every day...

 

[Larry Storch]

(snip)More gun control equals more deaths.(snip)

You are absolutely correct. Canada has far more control over firearms than America and we have more murders than you do. We have mass killings on a daily basis. You should see my truck, riddled with bullet holes. If it weren't for the bullet proof windows and Kevlar lined walls of my apartment, I'd have been killed a long time ago. I'm getting a little tired of wearing all of the body armour, but I have to. The shoot outs at Timmy's over the last box of timbits is happening all too frequently.

(snip)we have a thing called, DUE PROCESS here. You can get on the watch list with no real way to get off of it without spending a lot of money and going to court. (snip)

"...the interpretation of due process is sometimes expressed as a command that the government must not be unfair to the people or abuse them physically." (Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Due_process)

You seem to have contradicted yourself.

The moslems imported to Europe are working out so well there.

Hate to break it to you but there have been Muslims in Europe for a few centuries.

"Muhammad began preaching Islam around 610 AD. This puts Islam at around 1400 years old. . ."
(Source: https://www.google.ca/?gfe_rd=cr&ei=jkanV7LhO8be8Ae78KSQCg&gws_rd=ssl#q=MUSLIM How Old Is Islam?)

"Muslims also believe that God is one and incomparable and that the purpose of existence is to worship God. Muslims also believe that Islam is the complete and universal version of a primordial faith that was revealed many times before through prophets including Adam, Noah, Abraham, Moses, and Jesus." (Source: https://www.google.ca/?gfe_rd=cr&ei=jkanV7LhO8be8Ae78KSQCg&gws_rd=ssl#q=MUSLIM What Do Muslims Believe In?)

 

[badbadboy]

Illegal immigrants in fact absorb far more in benefits than they contribute. The Heritage Foundation in 2013 found that illegals contribute an average of $10,000 in total taxes (federal and payroll as well as local taxes) but use almost $24,000 in welfare and services, creating a net $14,000 per capita gain per illegal worker....
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With benefits like that -- and a president determined to shower even more on them -- it's little wonder the world's impoverished feel the red carpet is out for them to come here illegally....The schools are filled up with children of illegals who can't read or writh English. That means that the teacher needs to take more time with those students and guess who doesn't get help? YEP, the kids that are American and whose parents pay the taxes...
... People love the "FREE STUUF" from the democrat party...

 

[JY KELLY]

You are absolutely correct. Canada has far more control over firearms than America and we have more murders than you do. We have mass killings on a daily basis. You should see my truck, riddled with bullet holes. If it weren't for the bullet proof windows and Kevlar lined walls of my apartment, I'd have been killed a long time ago. I'm getting a little tired of wearing all of the body armour, but I have to. The shoot outs at Timmy's over the last box of timbits is happening all too frequently.



"...the interpretation of due process is sometimes expressed as a command that the government must not be unfair to the people or abuse them physically." (Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Due_process)

You seem to have contradicted yourself.



Hate to break it to you but there have been Muslims in Europe for a few centuries.

"Muhammad began preaching Islam around 610 AD. This puts Islam at around 1400 years old. . ."
(Source: https://www.google.ca/?gfe_rd=cr&ei=jkanV7LhO8be8Ae78KSQCg&gws_rd=ssl#q=MUSLIM How Old Is Islam?)

"Muslims also believe that God is one and incomparable and that the purpose of existence is to worship God. Muslims also believe that Islam is the complete and universal version of a primordial faith that was revealed many times before through prophets including Adam, Noah, Abraham, Moses, and Jesus." (Source: https://www.google.ca/?gfe_rd=cr&ei=jkanV7LhO8be8Ae78KSQCg&gws_rd=ssl#q=MUSLIM What Do Muslims Believe In?)

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..............This hits the nail on the head about the brain-dead and delusion Liberal imbeciles who actually believe we can 'coexist' with Islam and its Muslim followers Their "willful ignorance" has become outright collaboration.......Show them your co=exist bumper sticker when the come to cut your head off..
.........Suggesting a correlation between the number of Muslims in the country and the incidence of radicalism is, of course, considered insensitive, if not downright “Islamophobic.” But the only point here is a mathematical one: Whatever the percentage of Muslims who support or would ever consider supporting jihadism, the raw number obviously increases along with the total number of Muslims. One percent of 10 million is much larger than 1 percent of 1 million. The questions is, at what point does the radical population achieve a kind of critical mass..
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[Larry Storch]

There is no such thing as a half Muslim or a half Christian or a half Buddhist.

Not true.
I'm half Christian and half Rapscallion.
I believe in an afterlife, but its in Vegas.

 

[Larry Storch]

....
..............This hits the nail on the head about the brain-dead and delusion Liberal imbeciles who actually believe we can 'coexist' with Islam and its Muslim followers Their "willful ignorance" has become outright collaboration.......Show them your co=exist bumper sticker when the come to cut your head off..(snip)

*sigh*
North Americans have been "coexisting" with Muslims for longer than either of us have been alive.

You're definition of having a viewpoint that differs from yours as "willful ignorance" and "outright collaboration" is laughable at best and bigoted at worst.

I don't have bumper stickers, but I suspect the ones you have are critical of things you don't understand.
Talk about "willful ignorance".

 

[Larry Storch]

(snip)
.........Suggesting a correlation between the number of Muslims in the country and the incidence of radicalism is, of course, considered insensitive, if not downright “Islamophobic.” But the only point here is a mathematical one: Whatever the percentage of Muslims who support or would ever consider supporting jihadism, the raw number obviously increases along with the total number of Muslims. One percent of 10 million is much larger than 1 percent of 1 million. The questions is, at what point does the radical population achieve a kind of critical mass..
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Fixed that for you:
Suggesting a correlation between the number of guns in the country and the incidence of murders is, of course, considered insensitive, if not downright “Gunophobic.” But the only point here is a mathematical one: Whatever the percentage of murderers who support or would ever consider supporting mass ownership of guns, the raw number obviously increases along with the total number of murderers. One percent of 10 million is much larger than 1 percent of 1 million. The questions is, at what point does the population of murderers achieve a kind of critical mass.

 

[JY KELLY]

*sigh*
North Americans have been "coexisting" with Muslims for longer than either of us have been alive.

You're definition of having a viewpoint that differs from yours as "willful ignorance" and "outright collaboration" is laughable at best and bigoted at worst.

I don't have bumper stickers, but I suspect the ones you have are critical of things you don't understand.
Talk about "willful ignorance".

OH, you mean like the Christian's in Iraq that co-exist with the moslems there... Or, in India?.. They had to make part of their country moslem. OR any place in the world where moslem populations are higher that everyone else?..Co-exist needs to go both ways.. That sure doesn't happen in moslem contries, does it? It's only co-exist until they have superior numbers then it's all about them.. ALWAYS.....

 

[JY KELLY]

Fixed that for you:
Suggesting a correlation between the number of guns in the country and the incidence of murders is, of course, considered insensitive, if not downright “Gunophobic.” But the only point here is a mathematical one: Whatever the percentage of murderers who support or would ever consider supporting mass ownership of guns, the raw number obviously increases along with the total number of murderers. One percent of 10 million is much larger than 1 percent of 1 million. The questions is, at what point does the population of murderers achieve a kind of critical mass.

BUT, BUT just one more gun law..Then one more, then when that one doesn't work we'll need one more, then one more...Guns and self defense, are a right in the United States,the moslem immigration is not...

 

[uncleg]

Trump is going to be his Ass handed to me in November. He has no clue
http://www.usnews.com/news/articles...cans-leave-the-us-than-come-across-the-border

I live in a place where there are lot of Latinos. They do jobs no one will take or desire like landscaping, cleaning motels, fast food. Without them white people would do it at 2-3 dollars more an hour and create inflation. Plus the Mexicans have opened up lots of Taco Trucks in my area driving down food prices since they don't tax the food and generally speaking its a cheaper meal than fast food.

 

[Larry Storch]

(snip)Co-exist needs to go both ways.(snip)

If you actually believe that, then you're advocating that we all become "brain-dead and delusion Liberal imbeciles".
Because you mentioned this earlier:

This hits the nail on the head about the brain-dead and delusion Liberal imbeciles who actually believe we can 'coexist' with Islam and its Muslim followers

 

[Larry Storch]

BUT, BUT just one more gun law..Then one more, then when that one doesn't work we'll need one more, then one more...Guns and self defense, are a right in the United States,the moslem immigration is not...

So what you're saying is: you need to restrict gun laws in order to have as many guns as possible to protect yourself from the marauding gangs of illegal Muslims that are sweeping across America.

 

[JY KELLY]

So what you're saying is: you need to restrict gun laws in order to have as many guns as possible to protect yourself from the marauding gangs of illegal Muslims that are sweeping across America.

I'll bet some of the people in France wish the had guns when the moslems started shooting up the place......
NYT: Muslims are 25 times more likely to commit terrorist attacks
http://www.nytimes.com/interac...
Islamic terrorists, killing IN THE NAME OF ALLAH account for 40%-60% of the fatalities in terrorist attack. But there's just one problem: Muslims make up only about 2% of the population of America. If they are killing half the victims of terrorism, that means that a Muslim perpetrator is 25 times more likely to kill someone in a terrorist attack than a non-Muslim.

 

[uncleg]

... LOL.. Yep, I'm A yank, but live 10 miles from the border with you wonderful people.. Glad that you are my neighbors...

Appreciate that.....just think if this was Mexico with no Rio Grande. Being that close to the border you've probably had the opportunity to visit Canada many a time, then again maybe not. If you have, then I suppose you've noticed that despite the similarities, we a distinctly different society. I can own just as many guns as you and generally the same types. Difference is, before I get my gun in Canada I go through a background check that makes a reasonable effort to ensure I'm not one of the nutjobs getting them because of the loopholes in your system. Yes you have open carry, we don't. Do we need it..no.. Apparently you do need it....why ? Only reason I can see is the threat posed by your fellow Americans.. You have high capacity mags..we don't. Figure if you need a 40 round clip to go hunting deer maybe you shouldn't be hunting. I don't see any conflict between Second Amendment rights and gun control.

As to Islam and the West.....more Muslims..more possible radicals....same token.....more redneck crackers..more possible KKK. There is always going to be a lunatic fringe....maybe we should stop encouraging them.

There is one thing that Trump has said that I admit to agreeing with....American and I think Canada have become to Politically Correct. From my perspective a lot of the racial/social conflict that exists stems from that..political correctness taken to the extreme.

By the way JY...I do have dual citizenship...so what happens in America can have a personal affect, if I choose to let it.

 

[JY KELLY]

Appreciate that.....just think if this was Mexico with no Rio Grande. Being that close to the border you've probably had the opportunity to visit Canada many a time, then again maybe not. If you have, then I suppose you've noticed that despite the similarities, we a distinctly different society. I can own just as many guns as you and generally the same types. Difference is, before I get my gun in Canada I go through a background check that makes a reasonable effort to ensure I'm not one of the nutjobs getting them because of the loopholes in your system. Yes you have open carry, we don't. Do we need it..no.. Apparently you do need it....why ? Only reason I can see is the threat posed by your fellow Americans.. You have high capacity mags..we don't. Figure if you need a 40 round clip to go hunting deer maybe you shouldn't be hunting. I don't see any conflict between Second Amendment rights and gun control.

As to Islam and the West.....more Muslims..more possible radicals....same token.....more redneck crackers..more possible KKK. There is always going to be a lunatic fringe....maybe we should stop encouraging them.

There is one thing that Trump has said that I admit to agreeing with....American and I think Canada have become to Politically Correct. From my perspective a lot of the racial/social conflict that exists stems from that..political correctness taken to the extreme.

By the way JY...I do have dual citizenship...so what happens in America can have a personal affect, if I choose to let it.

... more redneck crackers..more possible KKK.SNIP.. When was the last time you saw a kkk holding up a severed head?...Moslems have killed more people this year, already, than the KKK have in the last hundred years...The second amendment is not about hunting, at all.. SO, how long does it take YOU to change a ten round magizine? I can do it less than 3 seconds. This whole thing of these giant capacity mazines is just a smoke screen.. I never hear about enforcing the laws that are on the books already. NOPE, just that we need more of them.. Never hear about longer sentences for people that use a gun to commit a crime.. NOPE, just more laws..Chicago has the very kind of gun control the democrats love... Let that be your guide to a liberal wet dream... More gun laws that don't work, that why we need more gun laws....

 

[Larry Storch]

I'll bet some of the people in France wish the had guns when the moslems started shooting up the place......
NYT: Muslims are 25 times more likely to commit terrorist attacks
http://www.nytimes.com/interac...
Islamic terrorists, killing IN THE NAME OF ALLAH account for 40%-60% of the fatalities in terrorist attack. But there's just one problem: Muslims make up only about 2% of the population of America. If they are killing half the victims of terrorism, that means that a Muslim perpetrator is 25 times more likely to kill someone in a terrorist attack than a non-Muslim.

I think you were off by 22.5%

"The START Global Terrorism Database spans from 1970 through 2012 (and will be updated from year-to-year), and – as of this writing – includes 104,000 terrorist incidents. As such, it is the most comprehensive open-source database open to the public.

We counted up the number of terrorist attacks carried out by Muslims. We excluded attacks by groups which are obviously not Muslims, such as the Ku Klux Klan, Medellin Drug Cartel, Irish Republican Army, Anti-Castro Group, Mormon extremists, Vietnamese Organization to Exterminate Communists and Restore the Nation, Jewish Defense League, May 19 Communist Order, Chicano Liberation Front, Jewish Armed Resistance, American Indian Movement, Gay Liberation Front, Aryan Nation, Jewish Action Movement, National Front for the Liberation of Cuba, or Fourth Reich Skinheads.

We counted attacks by Al Qaeda, the Taliban, Black American Moslems, or anyone who even remotely sounded Muslim … for example anyone from Palestine, Lebanon or any other Arab or Muslim country, or any name including anything sounding remotely Arabic or Indonesian (like “Al” anything or “Jamaat” anything).

If we weren’t sure what the person’s affiliation was, we looked up the name of the group to determine whether it could in any way be connected to Muslims.

Based on our review of the approximately 2,400 terrorist attacks on U.S. soil contained within the START database, we determined that approximately 60 were carried out by Muslims.

In other words, approximately 2.5% of all terrorist attacks on U.S. soil between 1970 and 2012 were carried out by Muslims.* This is a tiny proportion of all attacks."

(Source: http://www.globalresearch.ca/non-mu...0-of-all-terrorist-attacks-in-america/5333619)