Sex Work is the Most Honest Relationship You'll Ever Have...

[PlayfulAlex]

Isn't 'dating' just fraught with lies, embellishments, and downright mis-leading statements?

At least in the relationship between SP and visitor, everything is clear and right up front!
Yes, I'm looking to get laid, and here are the parameters! It's so straight-forward, isn't it?

C'mon, guys. It's the 2000's. Can't a guy just say that he's looking to get laid, if that's the truth?
Why do online profiles still largely state Looking for Long Term, when that's typically a crock of hooey? LOL

Comments from the guys and the gals would be much appreciated!
When are grown-ups finally going to just say what they mean, and mean what they say? :clap2:

 

[helloim]

Sex work is full of deceit, dfk, bbbj is included of course. Show up, none of that is offered or if offered at a bare minimum. Book an hour, be lucky to get 50 mins. Relationships where both parties actually like and respect each other add tremendous value to each respective person's life. So I guess it depends, just like everything in this life, nothing's black and white.

 

[MrBrown]

Sex work is full of deceit, dfk, bbbj is included of course. Show up, none of that is offered or if offered at a bare minimum. Book an hour, be lucky to get 50 mins. Relationships where both parties actually like and respect each other add tremendous value to each respective person's life. So I guess it depends, just like everything in this life, nothing's black and white.

Agree that it depends but if you do your due diligence and are willing to pay for value you will get what you came for.
In my younger years when I was dating I was taken advantage of by the ladies and got very little (if any) action...
No in my later years that I have settled and have needs I just do "this". Pretty efficient and straightforward.
My only challenge is that like anything in this town (Vancouver) it's becoming difficult to justify the price tag in the indy scene.

 

[EuroSZabina]

I just don't understand why do ppl still getting married ? What's the point ?

 

[Lo-ki]

I just don't understand why do ppl still getting married ? What's the point ?

It keeps the lawers rich..

 

[manni]

there's a ton of deceit in the sex industry. just browse at the many entries here from frustrated pooners.
from B&S to fake pics, fraudulent service, etc, we pooners have experienced all that.
mind you, it does happen more on the 'bargain' price point, mainly the so-called asian aunties.
however, I'm sure it also happens at the higher-end scale.

sex work is like any relationship, there's the good and the bad.
but for those pooners who have a regular SP that they can just call on a whim for a quick WBTYM,
I say bravo. I didn't know unicorns and mermaids exists.

 

[sdw]

Isn't 'dating' just fraught with lies, embellishments, and downright mis-leading statements?

At least in the relationship between SP and visitor, everything is clear and right up front!
Yes, I'm looking to get laid, and here are the parameters! It's so straight-forward, isn't it?

C'mon, guys. It's the 2000's. Can't a guy just say that he's looking to get laid, if that's the truth?
Why do online profiles still largely state Looking for Long Term, when that's typically a crock of hooey? LOL

Comments from the guys and the gals would be much appreciated!
When are grown-ups finally going to just say what they mean, and mean what they say? :clap2:

I put the line "Sex is an essential part of the relationship I'm looking for" in my POF profile. For some funny reason, that profile never got any response whatsoever from any of the Women I contacted. My OKCupid profile didn't have that line, basically the same profile otherwise. I got quite a few first and only "Dates" where the photo in the profile and the face across the table didn't match. A lot of Women that were bitter about their previous relationships and felt that I would like them better if they told me about it on that first "Date". A lot of Women that made it clear that I wasn't going to "sample" the merchandise before she had moved into my home. Then, there were the "Dates" where I was sure that she had arrived at the Restaurant, but she hadn't chosen to join me. My profile pictures were recent and truthful, maybe they thought that they had been taken on a "Bad Day".

I've found that women in Vancouver are not looking for an equal relationship. The women that have good careers and a good income aren't interested in me, the women that are as poor as church mice think that I should be pleased that they wish to share my income and should be enthusiastic about supporting their "Art" and "Causes", which don't leave them with the time for gainful employment.

The situation in Vancouver is quite unlike the situation practically anywhere else. I had no difficulty finding women that were willing to spend time with me in Brazil or China and most of them weren't expecting to be able to move in before beginning a sexual relationship.

 

[westwoody]

I just don't understand why do ppl still getting married ? What's the point ?

My two nephews liked it so much they have done it three times!

Three times EACH.

 

[voodooking]

To be honest the best sexual experiences that I have ever had have been with SPs.
I am always stunned at how sweet many SPs are and how eager to please these woman have been.

Coming in with no strings attached or any commitments is the perfect recipe to just have fun and not take things so serious.

Monogamy was never something that I have ever bought into.
There are way too many beautiful women on this planet to just stay with one for the rest of your life.

Girlfriends can be too needy and high maintenance a lot of the time and treat sex like they are doing the man a favor by doing it which is absolutely ridiculous.

 

[johnsmit]

It seem any lelationship we have is based on some kind of lie
It does not matter if it stats with a date or paying for it.
And generally we are paying for it weather it's an SP or just a date..
As guys we lie to our selves to start with.
Yes we want sex and that is why we seek out the company of a women .If we tell them some other reason as to why we want to see them ...it's a lie.Although attraction might be why we picked them ...we still are looking for a sex partner.
I she says she is looking for sex..that's a lie..she might want company ..but she realy wants security ..Some think they can get that by giving sex to get what they want ..
But women are lieing to them selves too.
Once guys get what they want they don't realy care to do much more for the girls..

That's where the whole marriage thing has come in..
Women think if they are married the guy will stay and they've I'll have security..wrong.
Men think if they marry her they can control her and are exclusive.
Wrong!.

So every thing .between me and women is based on lies...
And if you think of it the only truth we know about the SP'S we see is.
They have had sex with other men..they may have sex with you ..but that's not even a given lol.

 

[newatit]

I am going to subscribe to the discussion that there is a lot of deceit. There is. But there are also many honest truthful providers who honour their contracts. I was recently surprised to visit a long time well advertised provider who changed me for an hour. On entering I was forced into a shower even though I got out of one fifteen minutes before. The session was carried out within 15 minutes and then she disappeared to put her dishes away and told me to take another shower. A half hour had gone by. I tried a bit of discussion to stay for the whole hour. I would have liked 30 minutes of snuggling or something light but no I got stories of how all these guys liked her and where gone in 20 minutes even though they paid an hour. It came across to make me think I was being asked why I was still there having been made to smile. An hour is an hour isn't it? And if all these guys really liked her why would they leave do fast. Not realistic.

Contrast that with other gals who won't let you leave before your hour is complete and are careful to give you a short shower time on each end. They are "yes I'll be back crew"

There is so much of this time short changing that it was one factor leading to giving up on the hurry up get it over group to the yes I keep my deals group. This group just keep the pace even after the moment and make sure you get all the time and attention you contracted. And at that to narrowing it down to one reliable sp.

Yes you will get what you are willing to accept. Keep looking.

Honesty? Yes and no!

Alex where do you stand in this picture?

 

[badbadboy]

Isn't 'dating' just fraught with lies, embellishments, and downright mis-leading statements?

At least in the relationship between SP and visitor, everything is clear and right up front!
Yes, I'm looking to get laid, and here are the parameters! It's so straight-forward, isn't it?

C'mon, guys. It's the 2000's. Can't a guy just say that he's looking to get laid, if that's the truth?
Why do online profiles still largely state Looking for Long Term, when that's typically a crock of hooey? LOL

Comments from the guys and the gals would be much appreciated!
When are grown-ups finally going to just say what they mean, and mean what they say? :clap2:

Last date with a Civvy was 2011.
Last FWB was 2015.
I had hopes for either to have worked out but never seemed to get to that point.

Last date with an SP was last week.

Me: "Wow, hello gorgeous, we haven't seen each other in how long?"

Her "I missed you and I'm horny"

Me "Me too, I wanna be bad"

* Personally, I like last weeks date a lot more because we just got to the heart of the matter, said what we wanted, played how we wanted to pleasure each other for hours and loved that we could say goodbye at the end . . . .

To be continued

 

[hornygandalf]

I just don't understand why do ppl still getting married ? What's the point ?

'cause, some of us are hopeless romantics, or fools, or both.
There can be dishonesty and deceit on any relationship. But there can also be honesty, transparency, acceptance, affection, trust and a real deep connection (and a few other things). I'm looking for the latter, and when I find it, then marriage is sure worth it.

And I can't afford to be paying an SP every night... or even once a week
... and having enjoying sex bare back would be a really nice luxury...

 

[sdw]

'cause, some of us are hopeless romantics, or fools, or both.
There can be dishonesty and deceit on any relationship. But there can also be honesty, transparency, acceptance, affection, trust and a real deep connection (and a few other things). I'm looking for the latter, and when I find it, then marriage is sure worth it.

And I can't afford to be paying an SP every night... or even once a week
... and having enjoying sex bare back would be a really nice luxury...

You can still catch something from your SO. It depends on where their genitalia have been. I got warts from one wife, herpes from another. That's why bareback anything amazes me. Especially in an industry where people will lie. Men lie because bareback feels better. Ladies lie because sometimes the symptoms haven't become obvious yet, or they really can't afford the hit to their income that time off for treatment means.

 

[PlayfulAlex]

Yes you will get what you are willing to accept. Keep looking.

Honesty? Yes and no!

Alex where do you stand in this picture?

Good Morning, all.

Sheesh, when writing my thoughts, I completely forgot about the lies and deceit in the industry. Sorry, guys. I guess I was referring to that type of relationship that has been mentioned a few times here, where everyone knows what's up, why we're getting together, what time they're showing up, what time they're leaving, and what each is contributing towards the encounter.

I know that, when it comes to actual dating, both genders deal with a ton of bullshit. It's as if no one really wants to be together long term anymore, but they just say it, because that's what is expected. Is it a sign of the times? Like people change their careers every 5 years, should we all just accept that relationships should only be expected to last a short while, and then it's on to the next adventure?

Quite frankly, I'm on the side of 'I give up'!
I just hate to be a quitter; I'm naturally a very positive enthusiastic hopeful person, but maybe that's all just very Pollyanna of me!

 

[PlayfulAlex]

sex work is like any relationship, there's the good and the bad.
but for those pooners who have a regular SP that they can just call on a whim for a quick WBTYM,
I say bravo. I didn't know unicorns and mermaids exists.

That's pretty funny!
And yes, I believe they do exist! LOL

 

[johnsmit]

In that respect I say ed with the regulars I do know
We know we are living a lie and I kniw what to expect from them
And they kniw how I am or how acceptable I am .

I am no so adventures to see new girls or even go out in to the real dating world .. I know what I have run into .with SP'S. .and there real lives..not wanting to find more of the same or worse..

 

[newatit]

Alex I was considering what you might think of the examples of the providers who take your money for an hour but whisk you out the door much sooner. Is this just about completing one act or is it about having an hour of sensuous relationship? I can understand the blow and go crowd for a small time and all, that is acceptable. But a quality provider seemingly who says an hour and means much less?

 

[Oliver Clozov]

I don't believe that sex work is the most honest relationship you'll ever have. This is a cop out in my opinion. I believe it starts with ourselves and each of us being honest to ourselves as to what we want.

You make a great question when you ask "When are grown-ups finally going to just say what they mean, and mean what they say?" So many of us fear judgement in what we think the other person thinks of us. Our egos are so fragile, our self confidence so low that we are worried so much about what the other person thinks. That was me and will be no longer. Ok maybe I still go there a bit but more often then not I understand that it is none of my business what other people think of me.

The most honest relationship we can have is with ourselves and when we get that shit together we can have all kinds of genuine and transparent relationships with other people who are honest with themselves.

 

[tiger69]

" Agree that it depends but if you do your due diligence and are willing to pay for value you will get what you came for."

That can be said about a dating/marriage relationship too for the most part.
As much as I love getting laid and the SPs I visit, I have to disagree with Alex's statement- although maybe I'm just lucky in that I've found someone whom, despite little and big issues, I've spent 15 years of my life with. There are good SPs and bad ones, and there are good gfs and wives, and bad ones. In the end, we're dealing with people, but on a completely different level. When your ultimate goal is to get laid and have a good time, and her goal is to get your money, it's not that complicated... However, when the goal is to keep each other happy for as long as possible while warding off thoughts of strangling her in her sleep and hoping she doesn't ever find out about your pooning...yes, more complicated, but at the same time, more rewarding in so many ways.
My gf does not seek to make my money into hers, she's there to cook and greet when I come home after work or training, she is there to talk with when I want a conversation about music, life, anything- without me having to worry about the "clock>" I can hang out with her all weekend, and "maybe" get laid, "maybe" getting laid multiple times, and only spend $50 or so- sometimes not at all since she pays at times. Yes, she has many faults, but I'm a damn ornery bastard myself so it's all good.
And before anyone ask me "Well if you have it that good, why are you pooning?" I'll say that, just because I love home cooked meals doesn't mean I don't like to eat out once every so often.