Tracking VFM

Misterbeaver

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Just thought I would share some thoughts on VFM with you guys. I track my experiences and costs fairly closely, not really for any reason than I enjoy crunching numbers but also to see how to best spend my dollars getting the kinds of ladies and experiences I want. Now, I don't see as many women as most of you I think but some interesting things have emerged from my limited data going back to 2010.

Note: My VFM is a simple score out of 10 divided by the cost/60min plus some buffs/dings for BBBJ, Greek, MSOG, No FS etc

The biggest surprise: Econo-pooning vs. going upscale has netted similar value for money. You get duds and stars here and there no matter what, but they were pretty much dead even at 3.6 in my VFM reckonings. Econo was any local lady whose cost/60min <$200. Upscale was any local lady whose cost/60min >$220 or any touring lady (who are almost always >$240). I did not include any parlour visits as they skew VFM down. In the last 12 months I have been hitting more econo-ladies lately out of necessity and generally they have performed adequately. So, the takeway is that if you do some homework to stay safe, econo-pooning does not necessarily mean you are sacrificing value but keep in mind that the raw score of the upscale ladies usually blows them out of the water. A 6 or 7/10 that cost $160 works out a similar VFM as a 9/10 at $250.

Massage Parlours: not a shock but they are generally terrible VFM. You pay a hefty convenience tax for using them so even experiences rated 9 or 9.5 are scoring under 3. If you remove the room fee they normalize but its all part of the deal right...

The all-time VFM champ was Juicy Jessi (retired now I think) at 5.8. LexiRose was close behind though she was an outlier as her prices went up dramatically after I saw her on her 1st visit here. Both were tremendous performers with several buffs and reasonable pricing.

Ms. Irrelevant: Incall was Luscious Lynn at 2.5 and her rates are quite low so need I say more? At parlours it was Renee @ BW at 1.5; expensive and soulless.

Non-Upscale Local Incall Ladies - doing us proud at an average of 3.83.

My lifetime batting average is 3.2 over 36 encounters. So the first thing you will say is "But Mister B, your average for econo and upscale was 3.6?". Yep - parlours drove it down. Started cutting back on them last year though. I do miss the thrill seeing who is coming out of the green room...

If anyone would like to contribute data to expand (and further validate) the findings feel free to PM me so I can send you the spreadsheet. A modicum of Excel experience will be required on your part and you should be a seasoned hobbyist with at least 10 experiences to furnish and a few dozen posts on the site
 

bbrof

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What about the herpes you got from econo pvssies....did you factor that in your spreadsheet?
 

westwoody

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Go big or go home. Good enough is not good enough. You should walk out thinking that was Fantastic!

Fuck this nickel and dime bullshit. That's why we have only three or four decent providers here. Everyone gives their money to shitty providers who shouldn't even be in the business instead of patronising decent ones.
 

Misterbeaver

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Go big or go home. Good enough is not good enough. You should walk out thinking that was Fantastic!

Fuck this nickel and dime bullshit. That's why we have only three or four decent providers here. Everyone gives their money to shitty providers who shouldn't even be in the business instead of patronising decent ones.
Believe me Westwoodrow, if I had the bankroll to see Jolie et al every other week I would but fact is not everyone has that option. If folks can't eat steak every night they still gots to eat. Besides that everyone has their own reasons for who they choose to give their money to. But I suspect the problems you identify with our local scene would not be fixed if everyone would distribute their money in the way you advise. There is always a low end and high end. Some of us could, I suppose, try to starve the low end of our cash but I suspect that would not come close to impacting their viability. It's when we boycott a lousy high end that we can influence the business because those women are way more limited in who they can draw. Even then I don't know enough about how many customers they get to be certain about that.

All that said, there is information to share about both ends of the spectrum, so that is what I have done. All the ladies I have seen I have taken as much precaution as I can to avoid medical and criminal risk. After that, like I said the risk of a poor experience relative to the amount spent and realistic expectations is about te same across the spectrum, in as much as I have experienced.
 

Misterbeaver

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My post was not well expressed...I agree price is no guarantee.
I was trying to say that going with ones you know is likely to be better than taking repeated chances with unknowns.
And much as I'd like to see soneone weekly it doesn't happen anymore. No time. I've gone from twice a week to one a month. Sticking to two really cuts me down: VJ is obviously not around much and Riley is limited availablity.
Can't deny the logic of that Woody. Your approach certainly has the benefit of reduced risk and consistency. But as you hinted, for some of us the thrill of the chase...
 

hankmoody

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Interesting thread and concept. I never knew a spread sheet existed for this type of activity. lol
I don't doubt Juicy Jessi would top your list. I wish i could find her again. When i saw her it was 200hr i think, with only the 1 obvious restriction. (Not that a menu is a big deal for me but i don't like the upselling. Just shows she's not that interested but for a few more bucks, i guess i could...) Plus her correspondence was excellent ahead of time, she was very nice to talk to and seemed to genuinely enjoy herself. Does that factor into your spreadsheet?
On ww's note searching the "bottom" can be risky but not everyone can afford the higher priced ladies either. I hardly ever see VJ advertise and the last 3 times i've made it to the city Riley was unavailable, even with prebooking. So if more guys "moved up the ladder" to her what would it be like. But i certainly am not condoning the scammers, robbers and just plain shitty providers.
If there's one thing i've learned here it is the wide variety of tastes. From the PSE wannabe's to what seems like constant enquiries of what i would call unattractive providers.
As was said, a guys gotta eat. Different strokes for different folks.
 
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