If porn sets the bar too high for civilian women...

[Cami Parker]

What the heck do all those weird corny Nicholas Sparks and other "romantic" movies do to civilian men?? I think it's totally not fair. Women need to realize that a romantic movie is no more realistic than a scary movie. I think that women watch these and place the expectations of "leading man" on the real men in their lives. Like no man will ever be good enough unless he walks to your house... In the middle of the night... In no shoes... In the pouring rain... With a book full of sonnets written just for you..l which he serenades youth while playing his ukulele outside your bedroom window.... Crying that if he can't have you hell just die!!! Give me a break. I don't think that's real and I don't think it's fair. For all the women who cry foul on porn, what do they think those movies do?? They're porn for the civilian woman...
What do you think?
Do these movies set realistic expectations? Men would you ever commit any of these constant selfless mushy if-I-can't-have-you-I'm-just-going-to-die actions?
And ladies, have you ever experienced any of these movie worthy over the top Roma tic gestures from someone that you DIDN'T regard as a total psychopath??
Lol

 

[Cami Parker]

Right! It's the "here and there". Unfortunately I don't think a lot of women get this. Lately I've been hearing "no one will do unless they're exactly like Christian Grey!!!"
Sorry, only sadistic, gorgeous mid-20's billionaires with a host of emotional issues need apply ��

 

[Cami Parker]

Haha I know that happens... Unfortunately cock starved porn stars don't frequently find themselves embarking on physically monogamous relationships... Girlfriends give you girlfriend sex, professionals give you professional sex... That's why I can never pretend to be a civilian, it's too obvious lol
Guess you really can't have your cake and eat it too...

 

[P_e_r_b]

... unless he walks to your house... In the middle of the night... In no shoes... In the pouring rain... With a book full of sonnets written just for you..l which he serenades youth while playing his ukulele outside your bedroom window.... Crying that if he can't have you hell just die!!! Give me a break. I don't think that's real and I don't think it's fair. For all the women who cry foul on porn, what do they think those movies do?? They're porn for the civilian woman...
What do you think

The guy would probably get arrested and taken in for psychiatric care. ound:

Do these movies set realistic expectations? Men would you ever commit any of these constant selfless mushy if-I-can't-have-you-I'm-just-going-to-die actions?

Many guys stand out in the pouring rain (or the equivalent of) for women: It's called a job. That's the thing though. Many selfless acts happen right in front of our eyes, but sometimes we just don't make the connection.

I remember trying some "porn" with a GF. All I can say is that stiletto heels can cut into your calves.

 

[apl16]

Quit doing foolish stuff for women. Rarely appreciated! So much for my romantic side!

 

[CJ Tylers]

Porn only sets the bar high for women if that's what a guy is looking for.

I think many men would be happy with a woman that:
- mid to semi high sex drive
- enjoys beer
- enjoys travel / camping
- (optional) is into sports
- has other shared interests
- allows him to show his affection in his own way (sans scorn or demands)
- keeps a social lead while keeping him in the loop
- likes red meat, or at least puts up with it without remarks
- is direct with her desires and interests
- doesn't forget about him...

There are always more things we look for, but I can't see these as being onerous. No matter what jokes they make, looks and style of sexual encounters play second fiddle to these much more basic needs. There's what you dream about, I suppose, but when you find something real... you try not to let the opportunity pass you by.

Cami, I have a difficult time believing that women wouldn't follow a similar pattern.

 

[Cami Parker]

EXACTLY!!! civie women spend so much time looking for these rediculous over-the-top grand romantic gestures that they miss and fail to appreciate the things their men do for them on a daily basis that really count, like getting up early every morning and busting their butts to be good providers, being attentive fathers, and pretending to give a crap how your day was... you know, the things that really count... :high5:

The guy would probably get arrested and taken in for psychiatric care. ound:

Many guys stand out in the pouring rain (or the equivalent of) for women: It's called a job. That's the thing though. Many selfless acts happen right in front of our eyes, but sometimes we just don't make the connection.

I remember trying some "porn" with a GF. All I can say is that stiletto heels can cut into your calves.

 

[Cami Parker]

aww... maybe just the wrong ladies...

Quit doing foolish stuff for women. Rarely appreciated! So much for my romantic side!

 

[Cami Parker]

I like your list, doesn't seem to me like you're asking for too much. I also think that you're right in the fact that probably most women would follow that pattern. For me, I'm not sure that only one man could fulfill all my needs. So I have a man for movies, a man for dinners, a man to be my gym buddy, a fabulous gay man, a man to help me with stuff around the house... etc etc
I adore them all, and they each play such an important roll in my life. And of course I get sex from you guys.:thumb: I think the honest truth is that I'm just too much for one man to handle alone. Whenever my clients ask why I'm still single, I always say that and it seems they agree unanimously. It may be that I'm high maintenance and need more attention than just one man can give, or maybe I just can't be tamed...

Porn only sets the bar high for women if that's what a guy is looking for.

I think many men would be happy with a woman that:
- mid to semi high sex drive
- enjoys beer
- enjoys travel / camping
- (optional) is into sports
- has other shared interests
- allows him to show his affection in his own way (sans scorn or demands)
- keeps a social lead while keeping him in the loop
- likes red meat, or at least puts up with it without remarks
- is direct with her desires and interests
- doesn't forget about him...

There are always more things we look for, but I can't see these as being onerous. No matter what jokes they make, looks and style of sexual encounters play second fiddle to these much more basic needs. There's what you dream about, I suppose, but when you find something real... you try not to let the opportunity pass you by.

Cami, I have a difficult time believing that women wouldn't follow a similar pattern.

 

[CJ Tylers]

Maybe it's because you're expecting that a guy will try to tame you....

 

[Cami Parker]

Maybe... they usually do. I always feel like having a full time boyfriend is like having a child. They always need attention, they're constantly in my face annoying me with all the what ya doin? where ya goin? who ya seein? why didn't you answer my txt right away? do this with me, do that with me ... so demanding! so needy! Then throw in my vocation as an SP on top of all that...:frusty:
I find that I'd rather keep a few men on hand, whom I lovingly refer to as "permanently part-time". When we're together, we enjoy each other very much... when we're apart, we're apart. It works best for me. But like you said, that just my personal experience. Maybe I just haven't found the right guy.

Maybe it's because you're expecting that a guy will try to tame you....

 

[hornygandalf]

Maybe... they usually do. I always feel like having a full time boyfriend is like having a child. They always need attention, they're constantly in my face annoying me with all the what ya doin? where ya goin? who ya seein? why didn't you answer my txt right away? do this with me, do that with me ... so demanding! so needy! Then throw in my vocation as an SP on top of all that...:frusty:
I find that I'd rather keep a few men on hand, whom I lovingly refer to as "permanently part-time". When we're together, we enjoy each other very much... when we're apart, we're apart. It works best for me. But like you said, that just my personal experience. Maybe I just haven't found the right guy.

Well... yeah, if that is your experience of full-time boyfriends, no wonder you don't want one.
I'd just say you haven't found the right guy... yet.
Can't you have a life without been answerable for all of your actions?
You need someone who is secure in themself enough to allow you to have your own space and life while also enhancing theirs (and them yours).

 

[Cami Parker]

True... If you ever meet a guy secure enough in himself to date a 3x centrefold/tv star/SP and not get in my face about it, please do send him my way.... But I'm still feeling doubtful

Well... yeah, if that is your experience of full-time boyfriends, no wonder you don't want one.
I'd just say you haven't found the right guy... yet.
Can't you have a life without been answerable for all of your actions?
You need someone who is secure in themself enough to allow you to have your own space and life while also enhancing theirs (and them yours).

 

[hornygandalf]

Not having dated any men myself, I can't help you on that one.
Though, I would like to think that I'd be that secure myself...

 

[wetnose]

Porn and romance novels are all FICTION and should be treated as such. Unfortunately some people tend to indulge too much in their fictions.

 

[Cami Parker]

So true...
can someone remind the ladies out there that Christian Grey is a fictional character and not a real person that you're allowed to aspire to marry?!?

Porn and romance novels are all FICTION and should be treated as such. Unfortunately some people tend to indulge too much in their fictions.

 

[CJ Tylers]

True... If you ever meet a guy secure enough in himself to date a 3x centrefold/tv star/SP and not get in my face about it, please do send him my way.... But I'm still feeling doubtful

hah...m'dear, that would be me. However, I'm a monogamous relationship kind of guy And I like dancing. So yeah, probably not a match made in heaven

 

[Cami Parker]

Then how could you be ok with dating an SP??

 

[CJ Tylers]

I was referring to you being the untamed tigress that requires more than 1 man to satisfy her

*shrug* work is work. I could get killed on my job, whomever dates me has to put up with that (although, the chances are low. Injured or maimed, those have higher chances. It's not like I'm a fireman, who could just not make it home on any given day... the spouses of those people have it tough).

 

[Sir_frixalot]

"Careful what you wish for..."
If your GF wants it like a Porn Starlet,
You'd better be able to satisfy 24/7 cuz
Male porn stars get a big needle in the dick to keep Mr Johnson stiff for hours...