Ray and Janay Rice

[CJ Tylers]

^ feel free to keep laughing. Not everything they did was pure comedy. Quite a bit of it, actually, had social commentary woven into it. It's a commentary that appears to be as true now as it was back then...

 

[1nitestan]

Don't get me wrong, I think you should never hit a lady unless she truly means to fuck you up. You should man up and just defend yourself like any assailant situation. That being said, fans will still watch every NFL game regardless of this incident. People will still buy products from the sponsors.

NFL Commisioner should resign??? I dunno, if I'm a douchebag and I slap my spouse around at home/on my private time, should my boss get fired for it?

 

[grusse]

the opening comment to this thread saya it all..."they deserve each other"

 

[sevenofnine]

its pretty natural to defend your spouse or parent for the abuse they dish out.

its just the head space your in, I mean your a couple your a family, your part of it, so when someone attacks a member, you defend them, its automatic its self defense, your part of the whole, good or bad your part of it. its like defending your self, defending your abusive spouse or parent is like defending your self, because if it was that bad why would you be there your not nuts,
that is the way it works, from a guy who has been there.


and there is no reason for him at all to do that, like he could feel threatened or humiliated in any way, a two hundred some pound man in the best physical shape,
he did it, what he did came out of a very sick dark place.
just my thoughts.

you don't hit a women your protect your self cover your face your privates, but that is all you do, or run leave, but
you never hit a women.

sad,

she needs to gain some confidence personal emotional confidence before she can leave.

 

[overdone]

when Scott Zuckerberg married Priscilla Chan.

does Mark know? lol

 

[SFMIKE]

does Mark know? lol

Probably not because he could not afford to hire someone to spy on her.

 

[1nitestan]

Lots of people said something when Solange hit Jay Z. She was villified. And Jay Z accepted blame. The ONLY reason why Jay Z didn't knock her out is because he's a very smart man and knows that elevators have cameras and there was a body guard there. And it was also put to rest fairly quickly because Beyonce asked the media to move on and they complied.

Seriously, I can't believe we have people here starting to swing the pendulum the other way and asking "what about men?" in this thread. You people are the worst.

Meanwhile, the 49ers still have no plans to sit Ray McDonald, slated to start yet another game following his arrest for an alleged domestic violence incident against his pregnant girlfriend (which happened to occur the day after the NFL claimed it would crack down harder on violators of the league). And nobody is saying a damn thing.

Believe it. I'm commenting because, like rape, there' is a double standard when it comes to domestic violence. Women may not openly hit men but just like girls who bully kids in school, female instigated domestic violence is real and not outwardly visible. What about the guys who's wives are constantly telling them that their worthless/useless etc.? That's emotional abuse.

http://domesticviolencestatistics.org/men-the-overlooked-victims-of-domestic-violence/

....and for highlighting this aspect of domestic violence I'm a bad person??? Really???? Get a grip! Violence is violence. Women actually have more confidence that society will sympathize with them as victims. And even as perpetrators, women can get away with more than a man would. Because society expects us as men to stand up and take it.

 

[Miss*Bijou]

....and for highlighting this aspect of domestic violence I'm a bad person??? Really???? Get a grip! Violence is violence. Women actually have more confidence that society will sympathize with them as victims. And even as perpetrators, women can get away with more than a man would. Because society expects us as men to stand up and take it.

Here's the thing: This thread is about a specific case, which involves domestic abuse against A WOMAN. So you're just hijacking. Start a new thread if you need to talk about domestic abuse against men because it has nothing to do with this thread. I mean, really. What do you expect? Sheesh. You're the one who needs to get a grip and spare us that ridiculous MRA nonsense.


And in any case... your video is BS:
(BTW I love that website.)

The ManKind Initiative, a UK organization devoted to fighting domestic violence against men, recently put out a video that’s been getting a lot of attention in the media and online, racking up more than six million views on YouTube in a little over a week.

The brief video, titled #ViolenceIsViolence, purports to depict the radically different reactions of bystanders to staged incidents of domestic violence between a couple in a London plaza. When the man was the aggressor, shoving the woman and grabbing her face, bystanders intervened and threatened to call the police. When the woman was the aggressor, the video shows bystanders laughing, and no one does a thing.

The video has been praised by assorted Men’s Rights Activists, naturally enough, but it has also gotten uncritical attention in some prominent media outlets as well, from Marie Claire to the Huffington Post.

There’s just one problem: The video may be a fraud, using deceptive editing to distort incidents that may well have played out quite differently in real life.

A shot-by-shot analysis of the video from beginning to end reveals that the first “incident” depicted is actually a composite of footage shot of at least two separate incidents, filmed on at least three different times of day and edited together into one narrative.

A careful viewing of the video also reveals that many of the supposed “reaction shots” in the video are not “reaction shots” at all, but shots taken in the same plaza at different times and edited in as if they are happening at the same time as the staged “incidents” depicted.

Moreover, none of the people depicted as laughing at the second incident are shown in the same frame as the fighting couple. There is no evidence that any of them were actually laughing at the woman attacking the man.

The editing tricks used in the video were brought to my attention by a reader who sent me a link to a blog entry by Miguel Lorente Acosta, a Professor of Legal Medicine at the University of Granada in Spain, and a Government Delegate for Gender Violence in Spain’s Ministry of Equality. He goes through the video shot by shot, showing each trick for what it is.

The post in Spanish, and his argument is a little hard to follow through the filter of Google Translate, so I will offer my own analysis of the video below, drawing heavily on his post. (His post is still worth reading, as he covers several examples of deceptive editing I’ve left out.)

I urge you to watch the video above through once, then follow me through the following analysis.


Watch & Read the rest here:
http://wehuntedthemammoth.com/2014/...initiatives-violenceisviolence-video-a-fraud/

And more...

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We know that it has been reported that men, up to one in six, experience some form of violence in the home in their lifetime. Mankind's video ends by showing a statistic that 40 per cent of domestic violence is suffered by men. This figure, while it does come from the Office for National Statistics, can be misleading. It's important to remember that domestic violence, the type of abuse where you are living in utter fear of your partner, isn’t a one-off incident: it’s about ongoing and repeated violence. Women make up 89 per cent of those who experience four or more incidents of domestic violence.

It’s also really important to recognise that in the remaining 11 per cent, men are more at risk when they are in same sex relationships. Quite simply, proportionately very few perpetrators of domestic violence where there is ongoing abuse are female. Despite this, female perpetrators are three times more likely to be arrested than men. As men commit 96 per cent of all violent crime, it is difficult to understand why these statistics are so hard to accept.

This viral advert works on the basis that people should intervene when they see domestic violence, but most people don’t know what to do and we would always say the only safe thing to do, regardless of the gender of the person making the attack, is to call the police. You could end up at risk and it could make things worse for the victim, so please call 999.

It is totally understandable that organisations want to highlight the issue they are campaigning on, to increase their profile and encourage people to support their cause, but campaigns such as these influence important decisions that affect survivors. We have been told by local Women’s Aid federation organisations that they are funded locally on the basis they have to provide services to male victims, and they are rarely used despite putting time and money into promoting this.

This is happening at the same time that female victims and their children are being turned away because of a lack of space and funding. There is room for services for both women and male victims, but this support needs to reflect the reality of need. Women are much more likely to be killed by their partner and much more likely to be living in fear. It is worth noting that over the past decade on average two women every week in the UK have been killed by their current or former partner.

However, it still surprises me – although perhaps not in light of this advert - that often when I am talking to someone about the lifesaving work that we do at Women’s Aid, the response that I usually get is ‘but what about the men’?


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/wo...ween-attacks-on-women-and-attacks-on-men.html

 

[1nitestan]

You can choose to bury your collective heads in the sand but abuse is abuse. I'm not denying what Ray Rice did was completely unacceptable. Even more so the NFL's handling of the incident. But instance like this don't just happen in a vacuum.

 

[CJ Tylers]

who cares about foot ball. We're talking about one human being brutalizing another human being, a person that was of no threat. I only can wonder why he's not in jail.

 

[westwoody]

Does anyone else get the impression that most people that are upset about this incident are lazy, not really that outraged and don't really follow football?

A lot of people actually do not give a shit about football. Why follow it? It's just a bunch of hugely overpaid steroided up goons jumping on each other.

For the convenience of the attention deficit morons watching, any "action" lasts about ten to fifteen seconds. So viewers can watch a bit then go back to burping and scratching themselves.

 

[1nitestan]

LOL this is great