The bad state of the economy!

[johnsmit]

As any one in the service industry know the economy is not good
Sales are down prob any where from 30 to 50 percent... In some sectors. Escorting being one area hit hard.
For ladies that caltavated long term clientel it may not be as bad..but I am sure there are many regulars that are just not pertisapating at the level they use too..

Not exactly sure why ...because any one that has full time job still should be doing ok.
Of course every thing is going up in price and maybe the money is not going as far.

From the escorting end of things there has been a number of shift .. from the amount of girl. To the quality of girls..and
Even their attitudes is not the same as I remember.. it not a fun time.. and they only put minimal effort into service.....I am use to independents that were far more energetic about what they were doing.... prices were higher girls were happier.

Also many long time clients. Seem to be reducing there time.. Instead of doing a hr .. it 45 or 30 min. .
Of course there still are the mutable hr calls but not as many.

It definitely is not a very lucrative job ..for any one Involved.. and not some thing to count on to just try out for a quick buck like it once was.

With the new bill debate and probable coming in to low., has this scared off may people..Or even the fact that outs of young people are getting it for free.. even escorts.. In their privet party lives give it up for free far to easily... I would think they know better considering what they know about the male mentality .. .guy just will take what they can. And kick them to the curb. And the girl is left with no benefit lots of time no place to live .or help with rent and food.. ..I know a little off topic but also part of the state of the economy because most young guys have shit paying jobs.. and are not looking for much better. Because there just are not a lot of higher paying job like there once was..

Where are the mill job..ship yard... construction and manufacturing .. they are mostly gone.... I not sure what is employing
People these day..There is construction and all its spinoffs.. but wages are down . In those areas ..... sales are down in the retail too so they are not hiring full time there either..

The economy is bad and we keep putting our head under rock.. along with the government.

 

[*emmanuelle]

the economy is not good
Sales are down prob any where from 30 to 50 percent... In some sectors. Escorting being one area hit hard.

Wondering where you got these numbers from. I'm no economist, but a quick search for industries most affected by the recession shows multiple links stating the hardest-hit sector is "building materials and supply dealers" at -3.28%

I started working as an escort pre-recession and haven't seen any significant reduction in business (knock on wood!!)

 

[Julie Page]

I heard/read somewhere that this business actually gets busier! Not sure if its true, but I remain steady, even after my hiatus. Of course, there are slow days, but I still get plenty of 1-2 hour dates.

 

[P3t3rp4n]

Invest in gold John, safe bet against inflation

 

[beginner]

Wondering where you got these numbers from.

Never mind where he gets his numbers from, I have often wondered where he gets his words from.

 

[P3t3rp4n]

But Microsoft's stock has increased probably 20%+ since the beginning of this year, those jobs very well could come back after the restructuring.

 

[Julie Page]

Microsoft is laying off 18,000 employees by year end.

Yeah, but Amazon is hiring 1000, and Telus even more soon enough. IF we are talking locally, I fell like there are a lot of really good jobs coming Vancouver's way very soon.

 

[Jethro Bodine]

But that's the world that those people asked for when they decided they were not willing to pay for I-phones that cost $10,000 each but were manufactured locally, or insisted on high returns on their gambles in the stock market and didn't care that those corporate profits come at a local cost.

Exactly. Everyone want their own personal situation to be a bed of roses without looking at the big picture. Just look at the outcry after that building collapsed in Bangladesh killing all those people working in the sweatshop inside. Yet I go into Old Navy, Target or Superstore and everyone is still buying the $5.00 T-shirts.
My ex-in-laws are a prime example. They are card carrying NDPer's who are constantly complaining about the lack of government services but they are the first ones to run down to Bellingham for their gas and groceries.
I was talking to someone the other day and they were railing against big oil and pipeline development. I simply asked them what they were planning on doing when their was no gas for their car or more importantly no heat for their home when it is -35C this January. Aside from some nonsense about alternative energy sources they had nothing.
No one can complain about the state of the local economy when if you look at what your buying and where your buying it, your likely as big a part of the problem as the next guy.

 

[87112]

You get used to making a certain amount of money and than when the job lets you go reality sets in.
I have been out of work for close to 8 months now, I am about to get a job 40% less than what I made before. My new co workers have no BS in their life, no 1st world problems like why do I always end up in the middle seat on a flight. Its really a breath of fresh air away from the prima donnas of high paid people.

 

[Man in Submission]

I think John is just characterizing the 'feel' of the economy and life in general. And he might be right in the sense the population is growing exponentially, people lucky enough to have decent jobs are working longer both by design and by necessity, thus less opportunity for younger people. Which ultimately can equate to increases in crime and social issues. It was interesting in Britain, where it was suggested there will be a 'lost generation' of younger people who will never work a fulltime job in their lives, many living with their parents/relatives indeterminately. Or on the street, involved in crime. Numbers may not always support theories, but that doesn't mean they're not valid. It's a subject we can dissect for 1000 pages on this thread without finding a definite consensus.

As far the escort business goes, based on those I have spoken to and what is clearly obvious from sentiments expressed by others on here and in other forums, I don't think it is or will be negatively impacted. In fact, it would appear to be flourishing. With so many different means of promoting their product and brand, they're firmly entrenched in the marketplace. Ladies are smarter and savvier about what it takes to succeed long-term in this business than ever before, and the emphasis on fitness, healthy, beauty and fashion has never been better, guaranteeing sustainability. It's like any other business where competition drives everyone to be the best they can be to succeed. The selection of beautiful women offering wonderful and diverse services on Perb alone tells all you need to know. And guys are, well, guys. Whether they're 20, 40, 60 whatever ... there will always be lots of them seeking out attractive ladies that in many cases they would normally not have an opportunity to spend time with. Opinions expressed on here about financial struggles impacting escorting always have an undertone of wishing thinking, hoping it will somehow help drive prices down. It is not going to happen, if anything, the market correction may ultimately mean a modest increase than a reduction.

Just my 2 cents.

 

[badbadboy]

As any one in the service industry know the economy is not good
Sales are down prob any where from 30 to 50 percent... In some sectors. Escorting being one area hit hard.
For ladies that caltavated long term clientel it may not be as bad..but I am sure there are many regulars that are just not pertisapating at the level they use too..

Not exactly sure why ...because any one that has full time job still should be doing ok.
Of course every thing is going up in price and maybe the money is not going as far.

From the escorting end of things there has been a number of shift .. from the amount of girl. To the quality of girls..and
Even their attitudes is not the same as I remember.. it not a fun time.. and they only put minimal effort into service.....I am use to independents that were far more energetic about what they were doing.... prices were higher girls were happier.

Also many long time clients. Seem to be reducing there time.. Instead of doing a hr .. it 45 or 30 min. .
Of course there still are the mutable hr calls but not as many.

It definitely is not a very lucrative job ..for any one Involved.. and not some thing to count on to just try out for a quick buck like it once was.

With the new bill debate and probable coming in to low., has this scared off may people..Or even the fact that outs of young people are getting it for free.. even escorts.. In their privet party lives give it up for free far to easily... I would think they know better considering what they know about the male mentality .. .guy just will take what they can. And kick them to the curb. And the girl is left with no benefit lots of time no place to live .or help with rent and food.. ..I know a little off topic but also part of the state of the economy because most young guys have shit paying jobs.. and are not looking for much better. Because there just are not a lot of higher paying job like there once was..

Where are the mill job..ship yard... construction and manufacturing .. they are mostly gone.... I not sure what is employing
People these day..There is construction and all its spinoffs.. but wages are down . In those areas ..... sales are down in the retail too so they are not hiring full time there either..

The economy is bad and we keep putting our head under rock.. along with the government.

From what I can gather from John's post is he works in the service industry and notices that biz is down in his micro economical area. Could be true since our tourist industry is dependent upon our neighbour to the south having a buoyant economy with many of their citizens travelling North to visit Vancouver with a heavily weighted USD. Given the traffic I have seen at YVR coming in from USA, Asia etc I would tend to disagree but again he is probably looking at his own small piece of turf.

FYI I was in Victoria last week and it was very tough finding a place under $300/night. All of their reasonably priced hotels were near full occupancy.

On the rest of his post, hmm gotta disagree because for the most part our economy in Western Canada is still clicking along pretty nicely.

 

[johnsmit]

Reading through all the comments.. . It seem every one is seeing a different picture then I have experiences of late

From what I have seen and heard escort agency business has been just going down each month.. It's now summer and it has not picked up... and on face less girls working in it

The other day I talk to a car sales men .. He said his income from car sales is half it was a few years ago...
And if you go in to many pubs and restaurants it slower there also.. and prices continue to go up..

I never know where they get any of their figures in the paper either

 

[badbadboy]

Reading through all the comments.. . It seem every one is seeing a different picture then I have experiences of late

From what I have seen and heard escort agency business has been just going down each month.. It's now summer and it has not picked up... and on face less girls working in it

The other day I talk to a car sales men .. He said his income from car sales is half it was a few years ago...
And if you go in to many pubs and restaurants it slower there also.. and prices continue to go up..

I never know where they get any of their figures in the paper either

Escorts - depends who, how much they like to work etc. Very rarely when I get the urge am I able to see whoever I want and sometime have to wait a week or more. Some ladies are off on holidays now too. Rarely am I able to see ladies from one agency I frequent. Their ads go up in the AM and are taken down when their dance card is filled.

Car Sales - why buy a 2014 in the Summer time if you can wait 3 months to get a 2015? Unless they have some sort of incentive to move 2014's it makes no sense to buy now.

Pubs, bars and restaurants have a slow period now. People are BBQ'ing with friends, going to beaches, cabins, camping etc. Throw in the Police road checks and that's a motivator to drink at home :nod:

I am always the DD and am looking for one of my friends to step up and give me a night off. I'm feeling like cutting loose this weekend

 

[johnsmit]

I guess I all way have to clarify the period I am talking about
It been slow all yr for the agencies. . But usually summer is a very busy time. But last two yrs it has not been..
It is a great time to buy a car. With all the incentives. . But again. The sales men's income is cut in half bases on the full yrs sales
And when it comes to pubs and restaurants yes it is slow in summer depending where you are .. but again I am talking about whole yr..I would not base my statement on just one or two month...Of course this is my perspective. ..In the Victoria area...

Like some one said they have a hard time finding rooms for under 300
I not sure where he likes staying.. but for 180. You get a pretty good room in any newer hotel. In any tourist town.. and many people don't want to pay that

 

[Dickson]

I guess I all way have to clarify the period I am talking about
It been slow all yr for the agencies. . But usually summer is a very busy time. But last two yrs it has not been..
It is a great time to buy a car. With all the incentives. . But again. The sales men's income is cut in half bases on the full yrs sales
And when it comes to pubs and restaurants yes it is slow in summer depending where you are .. but again I am talking about whole yr..I would not base my statement on just one or two month...Of course this is my perspective. ..In the Victoria area...

Like some one said they have a hard time finding rooms for under 300
I not sure where he likes staying.. but for 180. You get a pretty good room in any newer hotel. In any tourist town.. and many people don't want to pay that

John I am not sure what universe you live in but I do not see a slow down. I am in a number of industries including construction, pharm manufacturing, Pharma Distribution, I am travel all the time and I see hotel rate increasing in markets like LA, Toronto, New York, Chicago. I see Escort rates increasing from 1500 for an all night to 2000 to now 3000 where I come from if things are slow prices drop they do not increase. I see my dinners increasing and transportation increasing. I do not see a drop but thing do not grow at double digit.

I really do not listen much to what goes on anymore I focus on my world and my world is good and growing. If I see expenses increasing compared to income either increase output or decrease my expenses. It really is not that complicated. I live a very simple life so I stay away from the whole world and just focus on my world. I can only change what I can change. The rest of the world need to focus on what it does. For example this week we had a huge discussion on currencies. If I get paid in SEK I keep it in SEK unless it is to my advantage to change. I keep thinks in USD I do not convert it to EUR. Just keep it simple. Don't worry.

Don't depend on others for a job make your own and focus on create value. But then again what do I know. All I know life is good business is good. Many people think I am crazy. But crazy is what crazy does. Just bought another underfunded company in France. Sold one in Turkey Lots of good buys out there. It an't so bad. Just enjoy the moment.

 

[johnsmit]

I don't live in your world Dickson. .
I not sure which one I live in any more ..
Homes less. .. but have a job that pays more then min wage.

As for prices going up when thing are good.. that usually a plies for more demand then supply... Escorting of course in your city I of providers ...
But at the low end that's not happening
Also the the places I eat like pub. They have been struggling off and on..
They cut there menus in half.. and all have a similar price range ..
But there ecanomic. Has been ..oh we have less business .But we have to cover cost..so prices have gone up
Down side is less people want to pay the higher price .. so they loss customer ..
If they were packed all the time. And had so.amazing food.. they it would be the right strategy .. But in victoria.. 90 of restraunt are for sale..and there are a number closing .Every 6 months. And another opening a few month later.

I a great. Nothing better then being your own boss.. but we don't all have the right ideas or the work ethic to pull it off

That true even in the escort buss.. Some top girl just can't manage the money. Nor do they want the hasel some times
It not there job.

 

[Fullhouse]

From what I have seen and heard escort agency business has been just going down each month..

I love escort agencys where part of their business is ---- going down.