Where did that destroyer come from?

[retriever]

Shows up on radar as something akin to a fishing boat.

http://rt.com/usa/navy-christens-zumwalt-destroyer-404/

 

[badbadboy]

Back in the day prior to 9/11 when the USN came to visit Vancouver and had open house aboard their ships, I had an interesting conversation with one of their officers. He thought the Canadian Navy spending about $1B a copy for our new frigates was insane. Their US version was approximately $600M and did the job well I his estimation. I wonder what he thinks now with a Destroyer at $7B a copy?

It's impressive looking hardware for sure.

 

[sdw]

Back in the day prior to 9/11 when the USN came to visit Vancouver and had open house aboard their ships, I had an interesting conversation with one of their officers. He thought the Canadian Navy spending about $1B a copy for our new frigates was insane. Their US version was approximately $600M and did the job well I his estimation. I wonder what he thinks now with a Destroyer at $7B a copy?

It's impressive looking hardware for sure.

It's like any arms race. A 600 Million dollar Destroyer right up to about 2004 was capable and flexible for most tasks expected.

Anti-ship missiles improved a whole lot and by 2010, most ships had launchers for them. Also even an ancient C130 can carry the new anti-ship missiles. They drop them out the back as they are tasked. Miniaturization of computers means the guidance suite is on the missile. Truly fire and forget. Russia and China make a copy of the AGM84 that is equally as capable. While the AGM84 has been around since 1977, the newer version isn't really the same missile. There are systems to launch it from Air, Land and Sea - it can even be launched out of a torpedo tube.

The Zumwalt is intended to be invisible/spoof the new missiles. It also carries a load of Tomahawk missiles along with sea to air and sea to sea missiles. A few years ago the Jimmy Carter was the sneakiest and most capable ship in the ocean. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Jimmy_Carter_(SSN-23) The biggest limitation on the Zumwalt is that it is not Nuclear powered. Nobody really knows if it's propulsive system will work under continuous operation of a year or more.

The other thing that people are beginning to realize is that Aircraft Carriers are going the way of the Battleship. The Chinese demonstrated a few years ago that they can take out an Aircraft Carrier if they ever needed to.

merican military chiefs have been left dumbstruck by an undetected Chinese submarine popping up at the heart of a recent Pacific exercise and close to the vast U.S.S. Kitty Hawk - a 1,000ft supercarrier with 4,500 personnel on board.

By the time it surfaced the 160ft Song Class diesel-electric attack submarine is understood to have sailed within viable range for launching torpedoes or missiles at the carrier.

According to senior Nato officials the incident caused consternation in the U.S. Navy

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-military-chiefs-red-faced.html#ixzz2z1QQWNJM
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The missing links

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_AC-130
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AGM-84H/K_SLAM-ER There are many other variants https://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/ships-ahoy-the-harpoon-missile-family-02718/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zumwalt-class_destroyer

Thought I'd add 4 links to propaganda on the planned capabilities before Congress cut the class from 32 down to 3 and decided that the Zumwalt class was a "Battleship" equivalent. Links rather than YouTube embeds because I don't want to make 4 posts to do what I can do with 1 edit.

http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/us/2014/04/15/orig-jag-uss-zumwalt.cnn.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEu5ew_wTgU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XuyyxPPRGc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EM3L0w816kE

 

[retriever]

It's like any arms race. A 600 Million dollar Destroyer right up to about 2004 was capable and flexible for most tasks expected.

Anti-ship missiles improved a whole lot and by 2010, most ships had launchers for them. Also even an ancient C130 can carry the new anti-ship missiles. They drop them out the back as they are tasked. Miniaturization of computers means the guidance suite is on the missile. Truly fire and forget. Russia and China make a copy of the AGM84 that is equally as capable. While the AGM84 has been around since 1977, the newer version isn't really the same missile. There are systems to launch it from Air, Land and Sea - it can even be launched out of a torpedo tube.

The Zumwalt is intended to be invisible/spoof the new missiles. It also carries a load of Tomahawk missiles along with sea to air and sea to sea missiles. A few years ago the Jimmy Carter was the sneakiest and most capable ship in the ocean. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Jimmy_Carter_(SSN-23) The biggest limitation on the Zumwalt is that it is not Nuclear powered. Nobody really knows if it's propulsive system will work under continuous operation of a year or more.

The other thing that people are beginning to realize is that Aircraft Carriers are going the way of the Battleship. The Chinese demonstrated a few years ago that they can take out an Aircraft Carrier if they ever needed to.

Nice research. It would be helpful if you put in the link from where you read/researched this info so we could all read the entire article/articles.