Will computers take your job over

[badbadboy]

I just don't trust any level of government to create jobs unless it directly leads to votes or directly leads to rewarding their friends.

The people represented by the BCNU may be losing jobs, but those jobs are being transferred to people represented by other associations. It's like when the little shuttle buses started being used. The union wanted the drivers of the class 4 buses to get the same pay as the drivers of the class 2 buses. It took a long strike and a raid by another union to come to the drivers of the class 4 shuttles being paid less than the drivers of the class 2 buses.

Ah no that's not how it works. BCNU has taken the HEU jobs under their union. They now represent the care aids too.

Where exactly are the jobs being created in health care that you already mentioned?

Not nurses, not biomed techs, not XRay Techs and good for them if they can attract good Dr's in this system.

I am struggling to see where the growth is that you predict.

 

[sdw]

Ah no that's not how it works. BCNU has taken the HEU jobs under their union. They now represent the care aids too.

Where exactly are the jobs being created in health care that you already mentioned?

Not nurses, not biomed techs, not XRay Techs and good for them if they can attract good Dr's in this system.

I am struggling to see where the growth is that you predict.

Actually, there are a number of articles that I've seen that say that Health Care is where the jobs are.
http://globalnews.ca/news/1074649/5-occupations-in-high-demand-amid-canadas-surprising-job-losses/

5 occupations in high demand amid Canada’s surprising job losses
By Erika Tucker Global News
TORONTO – If you’re feeling nervous about your career in the wake of Canada’s unexpected unemployment rate increase and surprising loss of 45,900 jobs in December, fear not.

Here are five occupations in which there won’t be enough job applicants to meet demand in the next seven years, according to trends in labour supply and demand in Canada.

The five picks are based on the Canadian Occupational Projection System (COPS) put together by Human Resources and Skills Development Canada (HRSDC).

1. Registered nurses and nurse supervisors

2011-2020 projected job openings: 161,992

2011-2020 projected job seekers: 128,671

The COPS data shows that employment growth has been strong for registered nurses and supervisors between 2008-2010 with a low, virtually unchanged unemployment rate.

The number of job seekers won’t be sufficient to fill job openings between 2011-2020 according to their projections, with employment growth and replacement demand “among the highest for all occupations.”

2. Managers in health, education, social and community services

This includes:
• managers in health care
• administrators in post-secondary education and vocational training
• school principals and administrators of elementary and secondary education
• managers in social, community and correctional services

2011-2020 projected job openings: 66,981

2011-2020 projected job seekers: 52,247

While the unemployment rate in this category increased slightly in 2008-2010, it remained low at 3.3 per cent according to the COPS data. The average hourly wage is among the highest of all occupations, and employment growth was strong.

From 2011-2020, this field’s retirement rate will be one of the highest among all occupations, largely due to older workers and earlier retirements compared to other jobs.

3. Medical technologists and technicians (except dental health)

This includes:
• medical laboratory technologists and pathologists’ assistants
• medical laboratory technicians
• animal health technologists
• respiratory therapists and clinical perfusionists
• medical radiation technologists
• medical sonographers
• cardiology technologists
• electroencephalographic and Other Diagnostic Technologists, n.e.c.
• other medical technologists and technicians (except dental health)

2011-2020 projected job openings: 40,304

2011-2020 projected job seekers: 41,321

This field’s unemployment rate was one of the lowest among all occupations, and remained virtually unchanged over the 2008-2010 period.

Despite the higher number of job seekers projected above, employment growth over the next few years will be “sizeable” because of the aging population.

“The arrival of new medical technologies and techniques, as well as the introduction of more advanced equipment, will require more technologists,” according to the COPS data.

With Canada’s aging population, Statistics Canada’s Lahouaria Yssaad said it’s no surprise that there will be lots of job openings in the health care sector.

“Healthcare and social assistance have been on a long-term upward trend,” she said.

“So if there is one industry that can increase its workforce, understandably that would be healthcare.”

But there are other fields needing more applicants, as well.

4. Architects, urban and land use planners, land surveyors

2011-2020 projected job openings: 13,378

2011-2020 projected job seekers: 12,628

This occupational field saw more rapid employment growth than in other occupations over the 2008-2010 period, maintaining its low unemployment rate. While the hourly wage was lower than other jobs in natural and applied sciences, the average hourly wage increased quickly.

“Nearly all job openings will arise from retirements, despite a retirement rate similar to the average for all occupations,” said the COPS data, noting this occupation recently experienced a labour shortage.

A recent Quartz report paints a different picture in the U.S., where the unemployment rate for architecture and construction majors was 8 per cent, “likely related to the fate of housing-related sectors following the housing bust,” wrote Roberto A. Ferdman.

5. Construction managers, residential home builders and renovators, transportation managers

2011-2020 projected job openings: 96,934

2011-2020 projected job seekers: 102,568

From 2008-2010, the number of job seekers was insufficient to fill job openings, though the unemployment rate increased slightly (still very low at 2.9 per cent in 2010).

In that time period, the average hourly wage increased much more quickly than the average for all occupations, according to COPS data.

Despite a higher number of projected job seekers, it’s projected there won’t be enough managers in construction and transportation to fill openings in the 2011-2020 period, partly due to a higher than average retirement rate.

The COPS data notes that construction has been a “major driving force in the creation of jobs nationally since the start of the decade,” particularly due to new housing units, home renovation projects and non-residential construction spending increases in the energy sector.

The aging population will mean decreased demand for new housing units, but the trends suggest non-residential construction will support this industry.

“Major investments in the energy sector in Quebec (hydro-electric dams), in Ontario (nuclear power plants), and in Alberta (oil sands and pipelines)” signifies that “non-residential investments will be the driving force behind job creation in the construction industry.”

© Shaw Media, 2014

What I discovered when I was in the hospital, is that a lot of the people working in Health Care are recruited outside of Canada. Also, a lot of our brightest head south as soon as they have completed their studies. The American hospitals pay much more than the Canadian hospitals and American hospitals don't have to have bake sales to buy the most modern equipment. The technician that was doing a scan on me had a lot to say about the antiquated machine she had to use.

http://www.besthealthmag.ca/get-healthy/health/why-canadian-healthcare-is-better

. . . I like to think that with the help of my superbly connected family doctor, I could have pushed successfully for timely treatment in Canada. But I pay $1,300 a year to be part of my doctor’s corporate practice and have access to his contacts (so much for the notion that two-tier medicine doesn’t exist here). Most Canadians aren’t so fortunate. In fact, a shortage of doctors has left five million people in this country with no first-line practitioner, let alone a well-connected one to champion their case. And then there are the wait times that still dog our system. The median wait time for common non-emergency surgeries ranges from four to six weeks.

Note that the writer of the above lives in Ontario. I've never heard of a person paying to be accepted as a patient, but I suppose that it could happen with the shortage of Doctors.

 

[badbadboy]

Actually, there are a number of articles that I've seen that say that Health Care is where the jobs are.
http://globalnews.ca/news/1074649/5-occupations-in-high-demand-amid-canadas-surprising-job-losses/


What I discovered when I was in the hospital, is that a lot of the people working in Health Care are recruited outside of Canada. Also, a lot of our brightest head south as soon as they have completed their studies. The American hospitals pay much more than the Canadian hospitals and American hospitals don't have to have bake sales to buy the most modern equipment. The technician that was doing a scan on me had a lot to say about the antiquated machine she had to use.

http://www.besthealthmag.ca/get-healthy/health/why-canadian-healthcare-is-better



Note that the writer of the above lives in Ontario. I've never heard of a person paying to be accepted as a patient, but I suppose that it could happen with the shortage of Doctors.

This may apply elsewhere but is no where close to the reality of the situation in BC.

You may want to apply your Google and and + British Columbia after the initial enquiry.

Our Gov't is actively de-skilling the care within BC Regional groups. Read the BCNU website there is tons of documented events listed on their site.

 

[sdw]

This may apply elsewhere but is no where close to the reality of the situation in BC.

You may want to apply your Google and and + British Columbia after the initial enquiry.

Our Gov't is actively de-skilling the care within BC Regional groups. Read the BCNU website there is tons of documented events listed on their site.

What I discovered when I was in the hospital, is that a lot of the people working in Health Care are recruited outside of Canada. Also, a lot of our brightest head south as soon as they have completed their studies. The American hospitals pay much more than the Canadian hospitals and American hospitals don't have to have bake sales to buy the most modern equipment. The technician that was doing a scan on me had a lot to say about the antiquated machine she had to use.

I guess I should have mentioned that I was taken to Burnaby General Hospital.

 

[badbadboy]

I guess I should have mentioned that I was taken to Burnaby General Hospital.

How does that even apply to the discussion? Four years ago I was in hospital and about 75% of the health care providers didn't even speak English. We are taking in immigrants to do jobs here because and this is important so pay close attention; our Government has not allocated enough spaces in the local colleges, Universities and BCIT for RN's. This is because they are cutting back on skilled positions. They are hiring Asian Care Aids who are unskilled at Nursing Practise.

Health Care is not a growth industry within BC. It is the reverse of what you think. In my opinion the care is going to get a lot worse than what we have now. Save your money because one day it will be required to seek health care out of province.