Where in the world is Malaysia Airlines Flight 370?

[vancity_cowboy]

i was simply bebunking aude's theory about 'oxygen deprivation' at 13,500 feet. he writes nothing to explore the possibilities of deliberately running the plane out of oxygen at very high altitudes. that information might not even have been available to him at the time he posted his theory

i agree that taking the plane to very high altitudes for an extended period of time looks like a deliberate act of murder

but i disagree with aude's 'creeping leak' theory of introducing oxygen deprivation

 

[sdw]

i was simply bebunking aude's theory about 'oxygen deprivation' at 13,500 feet. he writes nothing to explore the possibilities of deliberately running the plane out of oxygen at very high altitudes. that information might not even have been available to him at the time he posted his theory

i agree that taking the plane to very high altitudes for an extended period of time looks like a deliberate act of murder

but i disagree with aude's 'creeping leak' theory of introducing oxygen deprivation

It would appear that Aude's theory has been rendered moot with Thailand releasing the analyst of their military radar. Their result agrees with the Malaysian military radar that the plane made a 180 degree turn and flew back over Malaysia. (post Snowden, it's generous of Thailand and Australia to release any look at the capabilities of their defense radar) Vietnam and the USA have refused to release information and the USA has removed their surface ships, leaving only a plane they are basing in Australia as the American contribution to the search. Australia says that due to the nature of the data available, their search area is 232,000 square miles.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/18/world/asia/malaysia-airlines-plane/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

 

[vancity_cowboy]

these things have happened before in history

the following is an account of something similar. this account first surfaced in a classic american political campaign song from 1949 that evolved into a popular folk song. many groups have performed it, including the kingston trio, from whom the audio portion was used for this video

"Charlie on the MTA"

 

[sdw]

Courtney Love has found MH 370
http://arts.nationalpost.com/2014/0...ound-missing-malaysian-airlines-flight-mh370/

 

[HunkyBill]

There's still hope!

 

[sdw]

The evidence is piling up that MH370 made a 180 degree turn and flew back over Malaysia into the Indian Ocean. People in the Maldives are reporting that they saw an aircraft flying over their Island very low.

http://metro.co.uk/2014/03/18/fligh...malaysia-airlines-planes-description-4640688/

It is also being reported that files were deleted from the Pilot's flight simulator http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/19/world/asia/malaysia-airlines-plane/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

 

[sdw]

Australia has announced that they have identified debris in their search area that may be MH370, they have dispatched 3 aircraft to attempt a closer look.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-26659951

CNN now has a bit more information

http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/19/world/asia/malaysia-airlines-plane/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

 

[HunkyBill]

it seems like it is the plane. but why go that route? the maldives local's sightings were dismissed as a hoax?

 

[HunkyBill]

fake
http://wafflesatnoon.com/malaysia-airlines-lose-yourself-ad/

Thanks for joining the party...even though you're a little late.

 

[sdw]

It's possible that Australia found the whole plane, substantially intact.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/20/world/asia/malaysia-airlines-plane/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

. . . A Royal Australian Air Force Orion aircraft has already arrived in the area, Young said, and three other planes are being sent there, including a New Zealand Air Force Orion and U.S. Navy P8 Poseidon.

The flight crew on the Poseidon say they're getting radar hits of "significant size," indicating something lying below the water's surface, ABC News reported Thursday.

ABC's correspondent David Wright, who is on board the aircraft, says the crew told him that the radar indicates that "there is something down there." But ABC cautioned that it is still too early to tell if the radar hits are related to the missing plane.

An Australian C-130 Hercules plane has been tasked by Australian authorities to drop marker buoys in the area, Young said.

"The first thing they need to do is put eyes on the debris from one of the aircraft," said aviation expert Bill Waddock. The buoys will mark the place and transmit location data.

The Malaysian Navy has six navy ships with three helicopters heading to the southern Indian Ocean to take part in the search, a Malaysian government source said. . . .

http://abcnews.go.com/International/search-crews-objects-plane-search/story?id=22979627

Radar Hits of 'Significant Size' Registered in Indian Ocean: Flight Crew
March 20, 2014
By ABC NEWS via Good Morning America
A flight crew scouring the southern Indian Ocean for a missing Malaysia Airlines plane tells ABC News that they're getting radar hits of "significant size," indicating something lurking below the water's surface.

ABC News' David Wright, the only TV reporter on board the US Navy P-8 Poseidon, said the crew tells him the radar indicates "there is something down there."

It is still too early to tell if the radar hits are related to the missing plane, which was carrying 239 people when it disappeared on March 8.

The P-8 is among four aircraft and one merchant ship heading to a region off the coast of Australia after two objects that may be related to the plane were spotted by satellite, officials said Thursday. Australia's government later released images of the possible objects.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-26659951

The debris of interest is about 1550 miles southwest of Australia, which is at the very furthest extent of MH777's range with the know fuel load.

It turns out that the debris is just about where the Australian Defense Radar had an interesting contact. The satellite image shows what looks like the tail of a large aircraft and the American P8 is getting a large return from something underwater.

 

[HunkyBill]

What I dont understand if theyre that close, why no black box or other beacon isn't being heard?

 

[girth-brooks]

What I dont understand if theyre that close, why no black box or other beacon isn't being heard?

They fear that the battery that powers the black box will be dead in a few days regardless. Plus, if it is at the bottom of the Indian Ocean it may never be retrieved.

 

[HunkyBill]

There's some serious talk that the debris may actual be sea garbage from freighters and ships. There is a place not that far named just that, Garbage Island.

The black box batteries have a lifespan of 30 days so there is ample time. Their best bet is to send a sub to that area; however, like it was mentioned elsewhere national security takes precedence over the search so unless China or Russia send in the subs, it's unlikely they will use them in the SAR.

 

[CJ Tylers]

An interesting and thoughtful take on the matter:

The Wire

 

[HunkyBill]

An interesting and thoughtful take on the matter:

The Wire

Et tu CJ?
Goodidiot's theory has been debunked many times earlier in the week.

 

[girth-brooks]

NASA to join search

 

[sdw]

Well the good thing is that a lot of nations have diverted satellites to cover the area, one hopes that there is some coordination so that multiple satellites aren't sweeping the same area.

The bad thing is that it's so far from where land based aircraft can operate. 4 hours out, 2 hours searching and 4 hours back to Australia means that it's going to take a long time to search the area.

What they really need is some anti-submarine frigates or destroyers so that they can use helicopters and the electronics on the ships.

I think that the last piece I saw said that it's at least another day before the Australian ship is in the area and a couple more before the Chinese ships are in the area. I think that there are some other nations contributing ships, but the info keeps changing.

Wouldn't it be something if that big clunky car carrier from Norway was the one that found part of the plane?

My nightmare is that the pilot attempted a "Sully Landing" into an area that obviously has a lot of sea ice. The ABC video shows a batch of growlers in the area that was being searched. The sea ice would rip the plane into pieces.

 

[HunkyBill]

I dunno what to think any more; however, one thing is for certain that area is the sea dump of the antarctic. There is even an island called "Garbage Island" nearby.
In any event, it makes no sense whether it's a suicidal pilot a hijacking or terrorist activity gone array that they'd go south in that direction and then run out of fuel.

 

[johnsmit]

One of the most possible explanations that i read from a pilot.. Was that there was a possiable fire on board.
Which would cause all the eketrical to be turned off... In an attemt to stop the fire and isolate the cause.
That means all radio .. and transponder would be off..
Then the pilot would turn to the nearest airport that he could land the jet at..That explains the 180 degree trun.. Then the clime to 45000. was either an attempt to starve the fire of oxigen. or the crew
crew lost consciousness.. . then the crew either recovered.. or the plan some how recoverred and was
trimmed to find a altitude that I could fly level at..or just was in a gradual desent for the next 6 hrs with
every one dead.. If some one had been alive they would of phoned.

The terrorist...or suicidal pilot.. dont fit the evidence so far..
But mechanical failer of some sort of does..

I still cant beleave how.. no one could get there act together..and not see the
info that was there. from all the different sourcess.
Every one want to think humam rather then mechanical Boeing does not like to admit there plane had a problem because it will cost them 100 of millions to ground all 777 to check it out.

 

[HunkyBill]

One of the most possible explanations that i read from a pilot.. Was that there was a possiable fire on board..

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See post 75 and 76. You guys are talking about the same debunked theory. We might as well be talking about alien abduction theory. Both have the same validity.