perbites need to lighten up

[cherise]

its really sad how new posters are treated here..i received an email entitled " the review of cherise"

it even came with this cute little poster(which of course exceeds the perb size limit lolz)

probably the nicest review ever written about me, but the gentleman did not want to go through the inevitable "shill exchange".

remember , NONE of you started with 100 posts under your belt!
so how about cutting the noobs some slack and you just might find some reviews of great gals you would never have otherwise discovered

 

[Riza]

I have to say I agree with this one. I often get clients that want to write a review on me and the first thing I ask is "how many posts do you have". If under 50 I respectively ask them not to post because I know it will be viewed as a shrill by me (been there) and I am not in need of posts.

 

[mcdude]

It's been over a year since I wrote a review, but if written correctly, they were not viewed as a shill review.

But I agree. It's just too bad that there actually *are* a lot of shills that write reviews. Sadly, anyone with even marginal critical thinking skills can figure them out. Grammar is poor, sentences poorly put together, bad spelling, and very short, because they cannot come up with a good scenario.

 

[badbadboy]

I recall my first few reviews were subjected to some criticisms which struck me as weird. It made me wonder if these were actual pooners, handlers of competitors or SP's with fake ID's or some lap dogs of SP's who were chiming in to slam what I thought was a reasonable review of my time with the SP. I witnessed this sort of attack on a review earlier in 2013 with all sorts of one post wonders slamming the reviewer and the SP. Luckily the guys like myself who had seen that SP chimed in and called Bull Shit on these guys. Mods pruned that review later that day.

All I can recommend to any newb is to push back, not justify anything and basically tell the Shill Police that they can go piss in the wind. Just keep posting I say.

The irony as I see it is these same Shill Police will also jump all over a newb using the 411 to get some intel. "Would it hurt you to post a review" seems to be a common complaint yet when a review is posted they will call Shill. It makes zero sense to me.

Honestly, we need some new reviewers who will pick up the baton and run with it.

 

[Touch of Class]

Hmmm...No sure how to react to this post. I totally agree with it. I think if there isn't anything nice to say then shut the F up. No one wants a bad review. I don't think I have gotten a really bad review as of yet but then I am still relatively new to the perb scene and haven't found anything. Still finding my way around lol. I am finding guys on here can be really disrespectful which I guess shouldn't really shock me too much. It is a safe haven for them to say how they feel without judgement but wow its an eye opener for sure. Maybe I am just too old fashioned. I am all about honor and respect and treating a lady like a lady, maybe I am fooling myself but I am starting to notice some clients on here making comments that they are looking for that to. The Escort scene over the years has gone from bad to worse for the sake of the oh mighty buck and I think some client have take advantage of women for far too long and treated us like dirt because of what we do and we just put up with it. Then all of a sudden if we stand up for out selves or we don't don't give int o it we get a bad review. Just the other day I had a client call and bitch out my receptionist saying I was unreliable because I am always booked up when he calls. Even though it says right on my site to book ahead as I am very busy or call early in the morning before the phone starts ringing and we while try to fit people in. I don't know how many time they have called any been rude on the phone. I'm sick of it but it is the game we play in the business...weed out the crap to get the good. Personally I love getting reviews. Good and bad.. I can learn from it. I makes my business better. It lets my know what my clients want. Problem is not enough of them are posting
Well I have ranted enough. Hugs to all. Have a wonderful snowy day!

 

[Cock Throppled]

I always thought this was an advertising site and the reviews were just extra.

The "shill" cry comes too quickly sometimes, but it's usually easy to spot the "real" fake reviews, not because of bad grammar and spelling (do shills have a corner on that?). but usually because of the lack of info and over the top praise.

 

[Elle Diablo]

Hmmm...No sure how to react to this post. I totally agree with it. I think if there isn't anything nice to say then shut the F up. No one wants a bad review. I don't think I have gotten a really bad review as of yet but then I am still relatively new to the perb scene and haven't found anything. Still finding my way around lol. I am finding guys on here can be really disrespectful which I guess shouldn't really shock me too much. It is a safe haven for them to say how they feel without judgement but wow its an eye opener for sure. Maybe I am just too old fashioned. I am all about honor and respect and treating a lady like a lady, maybe I am fooling myself but I am starting to notice some clients on here making comments that they are looking for that to. The Escort scene over the years has gone from bad to worse for the sake of the oh mighty buck and I think some client have take advantage of women for far too long and treated us like dirt because of what we do and we just put up with it. Then all of a sudden if we stand up for out selves or we don't don't give int o it we get a bad review. Just the other day I had a client call and bitch out my receptionist saying I was unreliable because I am always booked up when he calls. Even though it says right on my site to book ahead as I am very busy or call early in the morning before the phone starts ringing and we while try to fit people in. I don't know how many time they have called any been rude on the phone. I'm sick of it but it is the game we play in the business...weed out the crap to get the good. Personally I love getting reviews. Good and bad.. I can learn from it. I makes my business better. It lets my know what my clients want. Problem is not enough of them are posting
Well I have ranted enough. Hugs to all. Have a wonderful snowy day!

The grunts you've expressed with regards to how some of the guys write of females is a major reason why I stayed away from review sites for as long as I have. The language used to size up and degrade females horrified me ... as a female you certainly do get a-fly-on-the-wall perspective of what goes on in the 'locker room'.

 

[VanessaofBC]

I am happy to say that since I have gone DNR I no longer have to worry about such things.

 

[PuntMeister]

Agreed, perbites should lighten up on the shill thing.

Personally, I think one should not call "shill" if they have never seen the person being reviewed. They have no information to share--only a hunch. Even if a glowing review is from a 1st time poster and poorly written, it doesn't mean for sure it is a shill. More probably? Of course. Conclusive? No way. One of my favourite 'finds' came from a weakly written review by a 2-poster that had potential shill written all over it. But I saw in the post naivete rather than mis-information. The peanut gallery (who knew nothing) called shill like crows on a tipped over garbage can. I went a had a great time So if you have not seen the lady in question, you are only speculating and creating confusion. I don't see what jolly people get in speculating on calling shill. "Ohh look bubba, that one spelt message rong, must beya shill". Uniformed shill calling dumbs you down to the shill's level. If you have never written a review and have not contributed to the "community of knowledge", you got no business taking guesses on other people's reviews and fucking up the stream of real value. However, if you have seen the lady and have a totally opposite opinion to a review, then please tell us your story and bust the shill's ass off this wonderful board with a 'fact-based' rebuttal and report to the mods!

This business of false reviews is deeply disturbing. That for some SP's to build up their clientele they feel they must resort to lies, fake pics, and mis-leading statement. Bust'em. Get 'em out of here. We don't want or need them. That's what TOFTT is all about. Once-and-done, thank's for saving us!

It is even more heinous when an SP uses multiple accounts or minions to write false negative reviews of other SP's. Vicious! Reprehensible! That's gotta be a lifetime ban, and go on the perb-wide avoid list. But we need to out them with information and let the mods do their job.

Now I need a beer.

-Punt.

 

[Ms Erica Phoenix]

I admit, it's why I started writing about some of my favourite visitors from this site on my blog, Confessions of a Cougar Call Girl. Honestly, I have never had anyone contact me from perb that I haven't enjoyed spending time with, and hope to spend more time with! I write those posts the way I hope my reviewers will write about me; honestly, discreetly, politely, and in the most positive light possible, because really, life is too short to be an asshole and make yourself feel better by cutting others down, and there are far too many people out there who are more than happy to do that for me!

xox
Ms Erica

 

[MissingOne]

The PERB Shill Police and the PERB Price Police are both rather tedious, but they're easy to ignore.

 

[Birdboy]

It feels like I've been reviewing forever, but I was once a zero post newbie here too. I never set out to build an 'internet reputation', yet I seem to have fallen into having one.

I started out posting here in the Winnipeg section, which was (and still is) a pretty tough place for a newbie. Yet I've never, ever been called a shill. Why is that? Well, for starters, I did lots of reading in the forum first, to get a sense of what was acceptable behaviour. I read a lot of reviews and unsurprisingly I found that I wanted to see some of the most popular and most reputable ladies. My first review here was of a well loved, popular and classy lady and when I posted a positive review no one questioned my credibility. I posted a second, then a third- all of well reviewed and popular ladies. I was well on my way by that point.

 

[vancity_cowboy]

although i don't write reviews anymore, my first review was on the big doggie (under a different name) back in the early 90's. and let me tell you, if you think perb is hard on shills - you should have seen the big doggie!

not once in my entire career of writing reviews was i ever called a shill

as stated above, you read some reviews, you get a feel for the language used and the type of information sought, and you sit down and write it

for the guys fearing being called a shill - get over yourselves. grow a set and stop being afraid of your own shadow

cherise and the other ladies, if you can diligently work with us and the mods to help root out the self reviewers, the pimp reviewers and the shill reviewers with which this board is often infested, then maybe you will find the board less sceptical. but if you just want to sit back and bask in all your positive reviews then you're going to have to put up with our criticisms of obvious shills, and those who write like them

think on this... if it wasn't for the efforts of the shill police here, a positive review on this board would mean NOTHING

 

[luvsdaty]

Newbs just need to put their big girl panties on and suck it up. Everyone goes thru it. Once you review a few different girls it all goes away.The shill ones tend too stick out by the join dates and the gushing reviews about the girl.

 

[Thatotherguy]

Here's the thing - it's usually pretty easy to tell if a review is a shill. If it's a brand new member posting, the review is glowing but with few details (or details that don't make sense), and the SP either has a bad reputation or no reputation, then it's probably a shill. Otherwise, it probably isn't. I've seen plenty of reviews from newbies that seemed like obvious shills, and I've also seen plenty (although fewer) that seemed totally legit.

To newbies who want to post reviews, I would say this: don't only post reviews of your good experiences. When you have a bad or mediocre experience, post a review of that too. It doesn't have to be a review that slams the SP - it just has to be honest about whatever didn't go the way you would have wanted it to go. If you haven't had any bad or mediocre experiences then either you're brand spanking new and have barely seen any SPs, or you're lying - everyone who has had more than a handful of appointments has had at least one mediocre experience. Post the good ones, yes, but make sure to post the not-so-good ones too.

 

[luvsdaty]

Here's the thing - it's usually pretty easy to tell if a review is a shill. If it's a brand new member posting, the review is glowing but with few details (or details that don't make sense), and the SP either has a bad reputation or no reputation, then it's probably a shill. Otherwise, it probably isn't. I've seen plenty of reviews from newbies that seemed like obvious shills, and I've also seen plenty (although fewer) that seemed totally legit.

To newbies who want to post reviews, I would say this: don't only post reviews of your good experiences. When you have a bad or mediocre experience, post a review of that too. It doesn't have to be a review that slams the SP - it just has to be honest about whatever didn't go the way you would have wanted it to go. If you haven't had any bad or mediocre experiences then either you're brand spanking new and have barely seen any SPs, or you're lying - everyone who has had more than a handful of appointments has had at least one mediocre experience. Post the good ones, yes, but make sure to post the not-so-good ones too.

Bad reviews are good just as long as they're not slamming the sp otherwise it just looks like an sp trying to make another one look bad. It's the ones that just gush about the same girl over and over that send me red flags.I realise some guys have a limited budget but they'd seem more legitimate it they reviewed more than one girl(good or bad)

 

[Thatotherguy]

Bad reviews are good just as long as they're not slamming the sp otherwise it just looks like an sp trying to make another one look bad.

That's what I meant when I said "It doesn't have to be a review that slams the SP - it just has to be honest about whatever didn't go the way you would have wanted it to go."

 

[sevenofnine]

its funny that you actually look at the number of posts a person has and judge him or her that way.

i don't even have a clue how many posts some one has or i do for that matter.

i don't even judge gramer and spelling that much, can you figure that much out,
a lot of people are very smart, but not in a reading and writing way,
and to be honest, how smart someone is does it really matter, isn't honesty integrity more important, there are a lot of smart crooks and ass holes out there,
integrety and charecter is how i try to judge some one.
not by there iq or book smarts.


and would one reveiw make or break a lady.

 

[PlayfulAlex]

its really sad how new posters are treated here..i received an email entitled " the review of cherise"

it even came with this cute little poster(which of course exceeds the perb size limit lolz)

probably the nicest review ever written about me, but the gentleman did not want to go through the inevitable "shill exchange".

remember , NONE of you started with 100 posts under your belt!
so how about cutting the noobs some slack and you just might find some reviews of great gals you would never have otherwise discovered

I have received a few of those e-mails as well, and I think it's awfully sweet of my visitor to write about his experience, with no audience in mind. As I've stated in the past, I am happy that I have as few reviews as I do. I just don't seem to attract the 'reviewing crowd'. My favourite review is a repeat visit...and no one needs to know!

Having said that, you have so many reviews to be proud of, Miss Cherise, I wouldn't worry about it. Your visitor has his own reasons for putting it out there in the public arena or not. How sweet that he wanted you to know how happy he was with your time together!

 

[Justin. Credible]

That's what I meant when I said "It doesn't have to be a review that slams the SP - it just has to be honest about whatever didn't go the way you would have wanted it to go."

I don't why some people feel the need to slam the sp in their reviews and be rude and mean about it? A lovely lady once told me she had a horrible review and nothing to do with her service, the guy just said her pictures were ugly and made insensitive insulting remarks about her body. She laughed it off like no big deal, but I could tell her feelings had been hurt. I can see why some women go with the DNR policy. In my opinion, just because women provides a service, shouldn't give the reviewer the right to make "bully like" remarks....at the end of the day we all want to be treated with some respect.