What I Am Doing To Lower Prices

[Marius]

Good day,


I am interested in spending an hour with Barbara while in Winnipeg. I have time available for one hour, February 20th, 2014 in the early afternoon.


That being said, I feel the rates you are advertising for an untested provider (to me) are not in sync with our market. I am willing to pay $250/hour for the services Barbara is providing, and will tip accordingly if I am impressed.


Please let me know if she has the time available, and if the price is agreeable.



That is the last email I sent to book a visiting provider here in Winnipeg. That is what I am doing to act on what I have been discussing on this board over the last few days. I'll let you know how it turns out.

WE ALL SHOULD BE DOING THIS. STOP PAYING MORE THAN WE SHOULD.

All the best,

M.

 

[Marius]

$200 for safe/covered service, $250 for basic (BBBJ, CIM, COF, COB, etc.) service. Extra for that WOW factor - impressed with the way she took COF, etc. Tip accordingly and well for good service. THINK while booking. We control pricing, not the providers.

 

[ComicalKazee]

$250 per hour is a reasonable rate in Winnipeg. Barbara charges $300 per hour. Being one who usually goes with two hour sessions, I'd say the rates all depend on what services are offered. Barbara is likely worth her rate, judging by her pics. I await your review of her Marius before I decide to book her. I couldn't find any reviews on her.

 

[Marius]

This Is What I Am Doing To Reduce Prices #2

Good day,

I would love to meet Molly in Winnipeg. I am thinking of Friday, February 28th, 2014 in the afternoon for one hour.

The only problem I have is that you are pricing your services higher than the market will bear. I offer $250 for the services provided by Molly, with a tip following for excellent service.

Please let me know if you find these terms agreeable. Note that I expect the services listed by Molly at $280/hour for $250/hour.


Please join me in requesting the pricing we deserve. This is another example of what I am requesting. If it is just me, nothing will change. If it is all of us, we will keep our $$$ in our wallet and still get what we want.

The market always prevails.

M.

 

[Marius]

That is the thing, Com. We are booking and paying for something we do not know. If Barbara has come to Winnipeg and earned a reputation as AMAZING I would say pay through the roof. But too many providers are showing up charging more than is acceptable. For the awesome ones? $250 and huge tip. Unknowns? No way.

 

[ComicalKazee]

Quite simple.... don't tip. Especially HUGE TIP. I prefer outcalls. I pay for their cab. I sometimes give them a rose, or roses, whatever. (On a few occaisions I have given them gifts of perfume, valued at $80 - $100). The best thing, I find, is to give them a great review if they provide great service. I make them cum, often more than I do. I think that is what they want, and it insures repeats without hesitation. The beat thing, I find is to treat them as you wish them to treat you. Just my thoughts.

 

[chuckertmg]

I await your review of her Marius before I decide to book her. I couldn`t find any reviews on her.

We`ve had several people state they couldn`t find reviews of this young lady so I`ll post links of two typical ones, but I had already pointed out that she is Celina with Dream-Makers in Toronto so I`m not sure where people are having trouble… I found reviews of her on three different boards.

Upshot: high marks given for attitude and service, very eager to please. Facially reported to look more like 30 than mid-twenties (this is normal and meets the industry standard - if an s.p. states they`re 25 you know they`re pressing 30; you don`t have to wonder about it). Her air brushed glamour pictures with professional posing and lighting are… wait for it…. air brushed glamour photos with professional lighting, and nobody looks that good. Nobody. As supermodel Cindy Crawford once famously said: "I wish I looked like Cindy Crawford…" The model for those photos is real person and she`s not air brushed, but they`re her.

Here are the links:
https://terb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?344928-Quick-Celina-Dream-Makers-review&highlight=celina
https://terb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?349357-Celina-DM&highlight=celina

 

[Alix Turner]

If I ever needed a lawyer I think it would be a bad plan of action to find one that I thought could represent my case very well, contact them to say I would like to hire them but their fees are too high for our current economic situation in Canada, offer to give them 85% of their normal take but let them know that if they got me off at the end... I'd tip them well. :eyebrows:

I know full well that the professional demands on escorts aren't the same as those of lawyers but I bet holding part of their rate back to offer as a potential tip for doing a good job and getting you off is a terrible way to get either one to enthusiastically consider you as a new client.

 

[george.caruthers]

If I ever needed a lawyer I think it would be a bad plan of action to find one that I thought could represent my case very well, contact them to say I would like to hire them but their fees are too high for our current economic situation in Canada, offer to give them 85% of their normal take but let them know that if they got me off at the end... I'd tip them well. :eyebrows:

I know full well that the professional demands on escorts aren't the same as those of lawyers but I bet holding part of their rate back to offer as a potential tip for doing a good job and getting you off is a terrible way to get either one to enthusiastically consider you as a new client.

..... Says the $350 an hour escort. In the past I have done pretty much what you are suggesting, letting the SP know that she has priced herself a little higher than the market, that I am willing to see her at the market price, but not for the premium she is asking. Some have told me to F off, others have agreed and we have had a great time. If we stick with it, prices will come in line with what they should be.

And for Alix, it is interesting that you use lawyers for your analysis. In fact lawyers often accept what Marius is suggesting, it is referred to as a Contingency Fee.

 

[PedroPistol]

Thanks for finding the reviews Chucker, as for the age thing I believe she is in her 30's as Angie Martinez who advertises as 24 is actually 33

 

[plumbcrawl]

It is my hope that you are actually planning to see all of the ladies that you are sending these emails to if they agree. Otherwise this is a dick move...

 

[Sixpak]

Assuming that you able to book with this tactic, please let us know if you feel the quality of the session was affected either positively or negatively. My gut instinct tells me negative.

You are probably correct....the SP that has proven her sessions are high quality, that has great reviews will likely say non-negotiable. Some of them want to provide only a few sessions a day and think if some will not book there will be other (f)suckers ready to book.
But this might work with some of the new unproven ladies that are local or touring and asking top fees. The unknown Quebec ladies are showing up on BP like never before cuz they heard Manitoba men must be desperate. Look at how many of them offer deals on their last couple of days...they have not been as busy as they expected and want to salvage their excursion. if it is poor service though, we are not interested in any deals. Have to rely on reviews on here to weed them out. Problem with manysI'd that they think they are doing a great service by just spreading their legs. They don't know how to create a memorable session like some SPs can or they don't think they need to. Another problem is that it takes a few days for them to find out we are not rushing to see them as they were led to believe.

 

[george.caruthers]

Low blow George. Just sayin....

Not at all. Just showing that she has a vested interest in challenging his post.

 

[rubintugger]

Many jobs include performance bonuses. Lawyers to get percentages in certain settlements, but comparing lawyers and layers (SPs) isn't fai to the SPs, who are usually far more honest. Wait staff, hairstylists, pizza drivers all derive a portion of their pay from incentives. Many salespeople, from brshes, cars, aluminum siding, even real estate derive some or even all of their pay as incentives based on performance. This is not a new idea, and generally works for both parties, as long as both are honestly looking to earn and pay.

Both parties are allowed to negotiate, and both parties are allowed to refuse, as long as it is done before the visit.

Many SP's offer guarantees, most a bogus or half hearted "Its me in the pictures or its free", or "Satisfaction guaranteed"... which are enticements intended to encourage a visit.

Done politely, there is no reason an SP should be insulted, and if they are looking for business, and they think they can "earn" the tip, they'd be crazy not to. But if they are looking for fast cash, and don't want any "performance bonus" involved in their pay, they can always decline the offer.

I personally prefer not to negotiate, and sometimes that high pricetag is a way of an SP to be selective with their clients. 3 x $350 is more than 5 x $200.

Now, if they had more people offering them a performance based deal, they might increase to 3 x $350 plus 1 x $250 + 50.

Win win, really. And only happens if the pooner asks.

 

[bigben]

"Sometimes that high pricetag is a way of an SP to be selective with their clients."

Exactly!

 

[Marius]

Got responses to both the emails I posted. They went along the lines of "Price is non-negotiable" from first post, and completely ignored on second post, other than the dates had changed for a visit - would I like to book?, etc.

The intent of my post was to address a common complaint I had been reading on this board. That providers have driven up the cost of average performance to $300/hour. The only intent was to bring prices down to what they could be. Providers would not exist without clients to pay them. I agree with most of the posts we've posted here. Some providers are worth more than they charge. But we have a say on what they charge. This business is a two way street.

I've decided to decline booking with the two I've posted on, for now. I truly believe that the system I proposed encourages better service and is fair, but that is just my opinion. Perhaps I'm just getting old and selective. I've seen 20+ different escorts over my time, and had my hits (wow) and misses (wow - for different reasons). I still remember a Russian in Toronto that charged $200 for outcall and provided a level of service I've rated others against. Notwithstanding the ethics of Russian providers in Toronto, she was amazing. We sipped wine over foot massages after one amazing, unrushed hour of intense, awesome sex. I've spent $450 for a Montreal duo that left my head spinning. Barely able to keep up - even got asked why I was so serious, I'm guessing because I was concentrating on taking too much of it all in. I've watched myself in a mirror taking a beautiful, long-haired brunette from behind and enjoyed every minute I paid $350 for. She even looked like a high school girlfriend I never... well, never. A good memory lane.

These should be the experiences I am willing and happy to pay for. Maybe I'm hoping for too much. The one last thing I will note? All of the above were tipped very, very well. Happy hobbying to all.

M.

 

[PierreCoeur]

I never go to a grocery store and ask them for a better price for their apples and melons. So I will never go to a service provider and ask them to reduce the price for me playing with their apples and melons. Now if the grocery store indicates prices negotiable then I will make an offer, that hopefully will be acceptable to the owner and not get me less than a fresh basket of juicy delicious apples. So if an escort advertises that her prices are negotiable I will then ask her whether she would give me a price break that will be fair to her and ensure she is happy as I hope to be at the end of our encounter. The girls are not apples or melons, therefore if they state a price and I can't afford it, I thank her for giving me that price and let her know that I will visit her in the future when I have sufficient funds to pay her price.

 

[Sixpak]

Got responses to both the emails I posted. They went along the lines of "Price is non-negotiable" from first post, and completely ignored on second post, other than the dates had changed for a visit - would I like to book?, etc.

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These should be the experiences I am willing and happy to pay for. Maybe I'm hoping for too much. The one last thing I will note? All of the above were tipped very, very well. Happy hobbying to all.

M.

Would be interesting to find out their response if you request the same again near their last days here..... they might be looking for clients.

 

[plumbcrawl]

Would be interesting to find out their response if you request the same again near their last days here..... they might be looking for clients.

Perhaps it would be interesting to know if they would let you book at all in the future. Some ladies say that asking for a discount will get you blacklisted. It would be interesting to see if there is a follow through

 

[humper1]

Unable to book an un reviewed girl at 300/hr.... Oh Nooo. Big deal.
I know airfare and hotels are expensive but... She probably charges 200/hr back home