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That is just a name. What people call an "eating disorder" is really just a type of personality disorder, it has nothing to do with eating. They don't like to admit that however, so they give it a different name to redirect from where the problem really lies.
I see ... so you are the only one that uses the term eating disorder correctly. Anyone else using it is using it only to mislead everyone else away from a mental problem .... ok .... that makes sense ...... lol
 

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.snip My comments about the industry are merely to point out that not all models or women who are thin have an eating disorder, there are a lot who just happen to be naturally thin. Currently I am 5ft 8inches & 115 lbs, which gives me a BMI of 17.5, still classified as underweight but I don't have an eating disorder, this is just my body type. I try to eat healthy & walk but that's it. I don't count calories or limit food intake, etc.
The blanket statement was wrong, of course, I was just pointing out in the comment that the poster I was responding to wasn't standing up against thin-shaming as much as defending fat-shaming and using the very slim as a point of argument.

A very few women are as naturally thin as you, but the fact that so many people noticed and showed concern over your very unique and rare body type proves the point; you have an exceptional natural body type.

This said, I'm sorry you had to experience body-shaming. When I went through the experience of people telling me I was too thin during my under 18 BMI days I was on cloud 9. I was thrilled because someone told me I looked like a pool cue, and they didn't mean it as a compliment.
 

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The blanket statement was wrong, of course, I was just pointing out in the comment that the poster I was responding to wasn't standing up against thin-shaming as much as defending fat-shaming and using the very slim as a point of argument.

A very few women are as naturally thin as you, but the fact that so many people noticed and showed concern over your very unique and rare body type proves the point; you have an exceptional natural body type.

This said, I'm sorry you had to experience body-shaming. When I went through the experience of people telling me I was too thin during my under 18 BMI days I was on cloud 9. I was thrilled because someone told me I looked like a pool cue, and they didn't mean it as a compliment.
Thank you.
 

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In any case an eating disorder means that you literally cannot eat, which is not what anorexics do. They choose not eat because they are messed up. That is the same reason most people end up fat. They have control over their bodies, but choose to engage in unwise behaviours. It is all in their state of mind.

The point is the blatant hypocrisy in all this condemnation of "fat shaming", when the very same people who do that typically have no problem at all doing "thin shaming".
You don't know what an eating disorder is. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eating_disorder
 

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Thank you.
All body shaming is wrong... What gives one person the right to publicly shame another for any reason? Once public stoning and hangings went out of vogue I suppose the sadist bastard segment of the population needed something.
 
Muscle does to the eye make a person appear bigger even if they are not . Hard gainers get ridiculed and told they look weak . In fact many very small and thin people are incredibly strong and eventually with discipline and hard work the body will change by building muscle . Just like dieting the hard gainer must be willing to eat their food at scheduled times meeting the caloric needs to gain muscle . Does it take along time ?
Yes.
I encourage you to like your body no matter what is presented in the mirror . It's not your business what other people think of you it's only important what you and your loved ones think of you . That's it that's all .
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You don't know what a personality disorder is. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personality_disorder
And you don't know what semantics is.

If you read that link it should be pretty clear that what they describe falls within my characterization of "type of personality disorder".

These people who engage in unusual or unhealthy eating behaviours do not do it because they are physically compelled to do it, they do not have a physical or biological abnormality, they do it as a result of what falls under the description of "personality disorder" as described in the link you provided. The entire issue is in their minds and in their personality. They know that what they are doing is unhealthy, but they derive too much pleasure from doing it, and that pleasure trumps the knowledge of the damage they are doing. Then they feel bad about doing that. The problem comes in when instead of doing something about that state of affairs, or just accepting it as the way they choose to live their lives, instead they point the finger else where. They try to pretend and convince everyone else that their condition is "normal" and "healthy". Part of that process is to point at people who really are normal and healthy, and suggest that those folk are somehow engaged in an abnormal and unhealthy lifestyles. This is classic "shifting the blame to avoid personal responsibility" that is so engrained in our culture. And underlying all of that is an inherently dysfunctional personality.

And my basic point still stands: we see all this popular outrage and campaigns against "fat shaming", but where is the same response to "thin shaming"? It is not there at all, in fact the very same people who campaign against "fat shaming" for the most part use "thin shaming" as part of their campaign.

There are girls who are naturally large. Over the years I have known a few girl friends who were like that, but they all understood that as a result of their biology they had to eat the proper amount of calories, and could not stuff their face like everyone else or they would just balloon. So, although they were big girls (and in some cases very big), none of them were obese. And there are people, like myself, who are naturally thin. If I ate a healthy diet I would stay thin. The only way for me to get big is to eat unhealthily and/or pop steroids/growth supplements, or become completely obsessed with working out and other such shit. For the vast majority of people, if they ate healthily and were reasonably active they would be neither fat nor thin. But that is not what happens. Most people eat way more than they need to, eat the wrong foods and are relatively inactive. So they end up ballooning. And let me be blunt, just about everyone in modern culture is this way, they consume far too much. Then they feel bad about it, and are caught up in the dilemma between being healthy and enjoying excess. There is no syndrome, disease or any other such excuse, it is all a product of their mind and their personal behaviour, an inability to assume personal responsibility. There is a flip side, namely anorexia, which is the opposite tendency, but that is far less common.

I understand that there are some people who are naturally fat or naturally thin (and since I am one of those people, let me be very clear about that). There is a difference between those people and the much larger part of the population that ends up in one of those two categories as a result of their behaviour and not their biology. No one should be laughing at the fat or thin, but on the other hand neither should these suggestions that these types of body forms are "normal" and "healthy" be encouraged. The people who are trying to convince everyone else that they are, are flat out wrong and they are doing society a disservice.
 

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Thanks :) Everyone should be open to new ideas and admit when they're mistaken. Also, nice pic!



It is both a disease and a mental illness in my very new and changing opinion.

EDIT: Jessica James and Ms Erica and others have already gone into great detail in how it's a mental illness. I'd also like to point out that food companies are spending billions on how to make preservatives in food more addicting. Remember when that study about Oreo cookies being more addicting than cocaine came out a few months back? That's the goal as it keeps their customers hooked on their product.
Compulsive overeating is definitely an eating disorder, it's included in the newest DSM as such.

No one wants to feel like they're trapped inside a fat suit they cannot take off. HOWEVER, it is very true that in order to be able to change your patterns of compulsive overeating, you must first admit that there is a problem with your relationship to food, and DEAL with it. Obesity is also a condition that leads to other health problems.
 

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Compulsive overeating is definitely an eating disorder, it's included in the newest DSM as such.

No one wants to feel like they're trapped inside a fat suit they cannot take off. HOWEVER, it is very true that in order to be able to change your patterns of compulsive overeating, you must first admit that there is a problem with your relationship to food, and DEAL with it. Obesity is also a condition that leads to other health problems.
That's why I mentioned my own eating disorder, because I know that they are 2 sides of the same coin. I mean, you wouldn't fault someone for having chapped hands because they had an obsessive-compulsive hand-washing condition.
 

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That's why I mentioned my own eating disorder, because I know that they are 2 sides of the same coin. I mean, you wouldn't fault someone for having chapped hands because they had an obsessive-compulsive hand-washing condition.
I know, Rox darlin'...Many people do though. Many of the people I met in my former profession, educated professionals who should have known better (in fact, in some cases were being PAID to know better) acted as though depression and anxiety were moral failings.
 
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