An interesting photo

normisanas

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This is an interesting photo: it is the 60th anniversary or "National Day" in China. The top leaders are in black, but the rest in the background are members of the People's Congress. Notice how it's raining, but the top leaders have folded their umbrellas. Furthermore, they're not bowing because it's a funeral procession, likely they are bowing during the national anthem or in honour of Mao. Our politicians here don't stand in the rain, and we rarely bow. The contrast with us is what I find interesting.
 

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That picture tells me they lack common sense. Not a good trait in national leadership.
 

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This is an interesting photo: it is the 60th anniversary or "National Day" in China. The top leaders are in black, but the rest in the background are members of the People's Congress. Notice how it's raining, but the top leaders have folded their umbrellas. Furthermore, they're not bowing because it's a funeral procession, likely they are bowing during the national anthem or in honour of Mao. Our politicians here don't stand in the rain, and we rarely bow. The contrast with us is what I find interesting.
So what's your point? We don't bow to each other here? Ok. Hm. They bow in the rain? Great...so? In my so humble opinion, the Communist Party of China is paying homage to their god/dead dicatator/mass murderer? They're paying homage to a man and a system that 'purified' the culture in a 'revolution' that slaughtered millions. Their politicians are all powerful, get the best of everything, trample all who dare say a word in protest, imprison those who aren't following the 'Party" line....got your little red book? So, yes a huge contrast with our politicians. Human rights violations...yes they happen here in Canada, but China's got the market cornered on that issue. How about that Yangze River Project, or how about Tibet? Or claims to everything in the South China Sea?

Sure, Canada's got some hard issues, lots to list. But in contrast to China....there's just no comparison. And we have hockey....:thumb:, eh?
 

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So what's your point? We don't bow to each other here? Ok. Hm. They bow in the rain? Great...so? In my so humble opinion, the Communist Party of China is paying homage to their god/dead dicatator/mass murderer? They're paying homage to a man and a system that 'purified' the culture in a 'revolution' that slaughtered millions. Their politicians are all powerful, get the best of everything, trample all who dare say a word in protest, imprison those who aren't following the 'Party" line....got your little red book? So, yes a huge contrast with our politicians. Human rights violations...yes they happen here in Canada, but China's got the market cornered on that issue. How about that Yangze River Project, or how about Tibet? Or claims to everything in the South China Sea?

Sure, Canada's got some hard issues, lots to list. But in contrast to China....there's just no comparison. And we have hockey....:thumb:, eh?
Good point. People will stand in the rain, crawl for miles on their knees and do all sorts of crazy shit in deference to their belief or "god". These guys standing in the rain are no different from the Ayatollahs and other religious fundamentalists, their mindset is the same.
 

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So what's your point? We don't bow to each other here? Ok. Hm. They bow in the rain? Great...so? In my so humble opinion, the Communist Party of China is paying homage to their god/dead dicatator/mass murderer? They're paying homage to a man and a system that 'purified' the culture in a 'revolution' that slaughtered millions. Their politicians are all powerful, get the best of everything, trample all who dare say a word in protest, imprison those who aren't following the 'Party" line....got your little red book? So, yes a huge contrast with our politicians. Human rights violations...yes they happen here in Canada, but China's got the market cornered on that issue. How about that Yangze River Project, or how about Tibet? Or claims to everything in the South China Sea?

Sure, Canada's got some hard issues, lots to list. But in contrast to China....there's just no comparison. And we have hockey....:thumb:, eh?
My point is that there's a difference, that's all. We don't bow, but that is neither good nor bad. They do, and that's neither good nor bad. They stand in the rain, and Tugela said that just lacks common sense. I prefer leaders sometimes not show common sense and stand in the rain in public displays such as this.

But what is most interesting here is the immediate derision you people have towards such an innocent photo. Comparisons to the Ayatollah by Tugela, give me a break. The humanitarian record, kettle-black, I guess we forgot what we did to the natives here in the west, all but exterminated them (especially in the USA). On the radio the other day I heard caller after caller ranting about taking away all payments and subsidies to the First Nations people, this after conquering them, robbing them, raping them, and exterminating them (remember the small pox blankets, oops forgot!).

I wonder why that is with all the derision? Is it true what they say, there's a lot of China-hatred going around these days?
 

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yessiree... when the board gets quiet we can always count on good ole stormy normy to play the racist card... i could see this moment approaching from the moment he first posted it at noon :doh:

well normy, at least you're predictable
 

normisanas

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yessiree... when the board gets quiet we can always count on good ole stormy normy to play the racist card... i could see this moment approaching from the moment he first posted it at noon :doh:

well normy, at least you're predictable
I never mentioned race not once.
 

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For god's sake, they are bowing because they want to show the people how honorable they are. It's called putting on a show. Politicians don't change their stripe even when there's only one party.

Personally, I think you should give "whatever it is you are trying to convey" a rest.
 

normisanas

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http://www.heritage.org/research/commentary/2010/02/the-legacy-of-mao-zedong-is-mass-murder
Chinese culture, only the food and some music have merit, everything else sucks.

Yes he was a mass murderer, to be sure. It's easy to gauge and judge the actions of normal everyday individuals such as you and I, for if we even harmed one person, we'd be in prison and label evil. We're talking about a historical figure here, a person who changed history for mankind. Julius Caesar was a mass murderer. So was Napoleon Bonaparte. George Washington was not a mass murderer, but in the eyes of the British he was as much of a terrorist as Bin Laden today, if not worse. And let's not forget the collective actions of the British and the billions of people they enslaved, continents of people, not to mention the import of black slaves to the Americas. We trumpet what the British did for western civilization. We glorify George Washington. In France, Napoleon is heralded as spreading the ideals of the French Revolution and legal reform throughout Europe. So it's popular today to criticize Mao as though he was the guy down the street. You need to put that person in the context of history, mass murderer and all.
 

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From Big Trouble in Little China:

walking outside in the rain, Jack and Egg fight for control of the umbrella
Wang Chi: A brave man likes the feel of nature on his face, Jack.
Egg Shen: Yeah, and a wise man has enough sense to get in out of the rain!
:D
 

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And Do not forget Hernan Cortes and his bunch of spaniards that did a genocide in Mexico and South America.
 

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This is an interesting photo: it is the 60th anniversary or "National Day" in China. The top leaders are in black, but the rest in the background are members of the People's Congress. Notice how it's raining, but the top leaders have folded their umbrellas. Furthermore, they're not bowing because it's a funeral procession, likely they are bowing during the national anthem or in honour of Mao. Our politicians here don't stand in the rain, and we rarely bow. The contrast with us is what I find interesting.
not meaning to be picky here, normi, but my history books say Oct.1,1949, is the birthdate of China,as we know it today.
so, is this photo not a 64th anniversary?
 
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