http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/estranged-couple-squares-off-over-16k-engagement-ring-1.1860480
So.... where do you stand on this?
So.... where do you stand on this?
Engaged couple splits up, man sues woman for engagement ring, $16K
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Frankly I think he was absolutely nuts to buy a $16K engagement ring anyways. People are really stupid with their money these days.
They used to say budget 3 months salary as the amount to be spent on an engagement ring. Who knows what the rule of thumb is these days?
Having said that, if it is true that he does owe her money, she should provide evidence that during their relationship she was supporting him and then she would rightfully own the ring. If not, then the marriage contract was broken and the ring should be returned. By the looks of this case its gonna be a messy one.
There's no real contract here. Unless they have some sort of agreement that was signed stating that she can keep the ring so long as their engagement isn't broken then it's a gift and he shouldn't have any recourse.
Regardless of written or verbal contract, I suspect purveyors of good taste and "normal" decorum would say that if he broke it off, then she can keep the ring if she chooses. If she breaks it off, she should offer the ring back, but up to him if he takes it.
But I suspect folks like these neither have good sense or decorum.
But I suspect folks like these neither have good sense or decorum.
Now they're saying a year, and "they" are of course the marketing people from the jewelry companies. I also noticed that these days a gift (as in what you would give at Christmas time) is now also expected at Valentine's day, particularly if the female is under 30. That's also due to marketing. It wasn't that way a decade ago, and frankly it's outrageous.
too many other financial factors are hinted at to determine what the court will rule in this case
my answer is: 'not enough information'
my answer is: 'not enough information'
I did a search and the courts in Canada tend to see that there is an implied contract when an engagement ring is given, and that the contract is that they marry. Apparently most courts rule in the man's favour when the woman breaks it off. This is to stop opportunists like you, I suppose.Where is the said contract? An engagement ring is a gift and yes I'd keep it
We're missing a lot of the background for why their relationship split and as such we're giving relatively uninformed opinions. The nature of their relationship and the split could definitely change my opinion on if she should return it or not.
Under neutral circumstances, I do think that she should have given the ring back. However, she shouldn't be under any obligation to do so unless there was a previous agreement to do so.
Under neutral circumstances, I do think that she should have given the ring back. However, she shouldn't be under any obligation to do so unless there was a previous agreement to do so.
Presumably a woman who gives back an engagement ring, remember under the context of engagement, doesn't love him anymore, or the love has no realistic expectation of lasting. So the ring then becomes a memento of a lost love, and a sort of trophy of some significant sum, if you will. That makes me wonder what kind of woman would keep such a thing, because in my mind, a worthwhile woman wouldn't see the point of having such mementos and certainly wouldn't be eyeing it for it's dollar value. In this case, I suspect the latter.
If you have done any reading on the subject as I have you will find that under many circumstances "The Courts" not BBB have found in favour of having the engagement ring returned.
This seems to be one of those circumstances where she may end up keeping the ring because of his unsubstantiated debts to her.
It does beg the question though: Why would a woman want to keep any ring given as an act of love that has since died?
This seems to be one of those circumstances where she may end up keeping the ring because of his unsubstantiated debts to her.
It does beg the question though: Why would a woman want to keep any ring given as an act of love that has since died?
Darn, I wish I could start a poll for the ladies...... How many ladies would GIVE BACK the ring!?!?! That's a whole 'nother thread.
It's a good thing he wasn't stupid enough (and boy, is he ever stupid) to give her a kidney. He'd be asking for that back too?
Yes I did, but I thought I would put up the poll to see what people here would say.
Yes, it does beg the question. That's why I mentioned that a woman who does keep a ring like that (and it's not like its any old Christmas gift either) is just being exploitive.
