You say "pathetic joke of a thread"....Maybe. But..... then you offer a valid and informed response to the question.
So not so pathetic after all?
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If you make an SP cum.....
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So not so pathetic after all?
I have been with a few sps that have called me after to thank me and also to book another time with me as there women parts were needing love. THis does not always happen every time but have been with women that only wanted oral and could care less about sex. I feel jipped a bit especially when they call and ask you to swing by
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You pay for her time. So if you make her cum, you pay extra for the recovery time she takes to get ready for the next client. Kind of like seeing your lawyer or tax accountant - you pay for the visit and you also pay for their "thinking time" after you leave. So if you're such a great lover you leave her drained of all energy and leave her struggling to stand because her knees are so wobbly from the pleasure you just gave her, you pay for an extra hour for her "recovery time". At least that's what the ladies always always tell me.
But as you noted "assuming she isn't faking". If you notice it's you who has wobbly knees while she is able to immediately jump up and get you a warm washcloth before she kicks your ass into the shower, you have to wonder. And if you' re all flushed and drenched in sweat while she's barely breaking a sweat, not a hair on her head is out of place and she tells you she's yawning only because you "wore her out", that's another clue. And if she pulled out her phone and was texting while she was screaming she was cumming, oh yeah that's the real thing. She was just texting to all the other SPs to let them know how great a lover you are so they can be sure to watch for your number to immediately respond when you try to book with them and make sure they set aside the entire evening for you and your 30 minute paid appointment.
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I'm gonna weigh in on this comment Borko, you seem like a pretty rationale guy, but understand that a lot of guys that see us ladies are NOT very rationale and don't handle constructive criticism very well at all. I get where you're going with your sentiments and respect them, but trust me when I say very few and far between guys GET that it could be of their benefit when listening to constructive criticism. Some go off the deep end, like WAY off.
Well I guess like I said it depends on your evaluation of your client.
I understand that every man has a reason why he pays for sex, be it it's easier for them, that they are nervous or shy approaching women IRL or they have severe personality defects that prevent them from meeting women. I'd also think that even a nutty person would benefit from some constructive criticism, I mean I think even if I was nutty, if someone like Miss Melody told me to quit putting numbing cream on my cock and that was the reason she banned me, I might get pissy but I would think twice about doing it the next time with someone else. I think letting clients know is the nice thing to do, if not only for the client but for the next woman that he sees.
And you all would know better than me, but I thought references were required and given to screen out the crazy clients? I know in my line of work a crazy client is never worth keeping, they are 10 times the work of a good client and 25 times the stress.
Refund? No...but maybe sp's could offer tickets that we can redeem for prizes like at Chuck E. Cheese!
Oooh! I want one of those Despicable Me minion plushies! The one-eyed one is the cutest!
Yeah but a lot guys seem to think paying for sex means they need to perform like pornstars. Maybe the guy with numbing cream was a real prick, but I think it was probably the opposite he wanted to feel like he had to last 45 minutes straight to feel like a real man. I somehow doubt the intent was to purposely go over time, but instead to feel empowered and impressive, similar to guys here bragging about how about great they are at oral sex, as if the guys reading care how many times they got the woman off. It's all about making oneself feel good.
I'd think paying for sex means that you don't have to perform like porn stars. Quite the opposite in my opinion.
And it sucks going for 45+ minutes straight without cumming.
I don't really agree. Lots of reviews read into more about the guys performance, so it must be important enough to some guys to boast about it. The original comment was about numbing cream, so perhaps that was its reason. To fuck like a pornstar.
Wow this thread is making me rethink seeing sp's at all lol!
I am "one of those" guys, I get off on a woman enjoying herself, the look on her face, the sound of her voice, totally does it for me! I think bad "faking it" is a real turn off, and will lead to me not cumming after going at it for 45mins. Of course I understand there might be several other factors involved as to why she doesn't cum, but for me at least a planned purposeful "holding back" on her part is a sure way to kill it, and no repeat for sure. Maybe i'm a bit younger than the average poster here, but I have had several sp's ask me bluntly why I am doing this, why do I "pay for it" etc. I have been told I seem to be a "nice guy", and "decent looking", and not in the paying me a compliment way (contrived or otherwise), but rather in a derogatory tone. Like being asked bluntly what's wrong with me lol!
For me this is about having fun and being a coward from having to deal with "real" relationship issues for the time being, but I definitely fantasize about beautiful woman enjoying sex, and want it both ways dammit!
No I wouldn't base a review on her getting off, nor do I have any sort of huge self-importance/self esteem issue in needing to "prove myself", I just really fucking love a hot woman having an orgasm, and yep I have been quite willing to see sp's for a chance at getting that!
I'm more than a bit surprised to read some comments on how not only is that hopeless, but many sp's themselves seem to not understand my perspective!
I am "one of those" guys, I get off on a woman enjoying herself, the look on her face, the sound of her voice, totally does it for me! I think bad "faking it" is a real turn off, and will lead to me not cumming after going at it for 45mins. Of course I understand there might be several other factors involved as to why she doesn't cum, but for me at least a planned purposeful "holding back" on her part is a sure way to kill it, and no repeat for sure. Maybe i'm a bit younger than the average poster here, but I have had several sp's ask me bluntly why I am doing this, why do I "pay for it" etc. I have been told I seem to be a "nice guy", and "decent looking", and not in the paying me a compliment way (contrived or otherwise), but rather in a derogatory tone. Like being asked bluntly what's wrong with me lol!
For me this is about having fun and being a coward from having to deal with "real" relationship issues for the time being, but I definitely fantasize about beautiful woman enjoying sex, and want it both ways dammit!
No I wouldn't base a review on her getting off, nor do I have any sort of huge self-importance/self esteem issue in needing to "prove myself", I just really fucking love a hot woman having an orgasm, and yep I have been quite willing to see sp's for a chance at getting that!
I'm more than a bit surprised to read some comments on how not only is that hopeless, but many sp's themselves seem to not understand my perspective!
You left something out... we pay for professionalism too... I had a girl I was seeing regularly.. she kept me waiting for an outcall for 2hrs once... I called and she said I'll be there in a minute... a total lie... When she got there, I asked her what took so long and she said 'I was waiting for my ride.' I explained, quite nicely, that she should have told me and not kept me waiting ... She agreed...
A bit of background... I always treat my SP's with respect... In fact the first time I saw this girl... I offered her a tub of jaw breakers because I can't eat them anymore since I've developed type II diabetes. She was very receptive to my polite gestures... always offered a drink... etc.
I made a date to go to her incall ... when I got there she kept me waiting again, for a 1/2 hour. I texted her a few times to get the final directions to her room.. No reply...So I left. After I got back home she texted that she had turned her phone off... I told her that since she was charging me full price [and before the comments start I thought that my gestures might buy me a slight discount, but that was a HOPE not an expectation.] She was charging me full price, again, and not respecting me or my time. Funny how 'time is money' from the sp's point of view, but I've never gotten a refund for my time getting wasted by them. Realistically.. if you're charging more than $150, you're making more money than a lot of university trained professional (ie Lawyers, doctors, etc.) and a little (or a lot) of professionalism is expected.
So going beyond my original question... [For the record, If I had a job where the occasional orgasm was a fringe benefit, just the health benefit would be worth a slight refund...] if an sp makes you wait... should you get a discount?
You have a very interesting perspective on women. An orgasm is their choice. Just because you're good looking doesn't mean you have skills in bed, that's not enough to bring a lady to orgasm. You cannot force women to orgasm. The more you pressure her the less likely it will happen. You have to create chemistry on your own (like IRL)
I would have quit seeing that SP if she kept me waiting for a 2 hour outcall. I would not have even given her the chance to keep me waiting 1/2 hour for the incall.
Also, doctors and lawyers would be making way more than a SP. Lawyers in Vancouver charge well above $150 per hour and even if they are on salary they are making their salary throughout the work day whereas I doubt a SP works and bills 8 hours a day 5 days a week. Hell a plastic surgeon bills $10,000 for an hour of OR time putting breast implants in.
Oh and I think it might be breaching some degree of professionalism when you offer a SP a tub of jawbreakers.
If a SP fucks up the appointment, ie scheduling mix up or whatnot that leads to her no showing, she does not have to, but in my experience she usually offers some kind of make up discount. On the flipside, when I have fucked up an appointment and given notice really late, I have added extra to the donation for the next time to make things up. It goes both ways at times.
When was the last time your lawyer kept you waiting for 2 hours without calling/ lying.... Way to miss the point WN!
WTF? You've never offered an sp a gift? Besides I'm paying her... the implied contract is she will be professional... Whatever happened to "the customer is always right"?
As long as I treat her as courteously as I would any other person... I've fulfilled my obligation... which is to pay her for a professional service with a professional attitude, not lying about being there in a minute when I haven't even left yet..
Okay man just saying, I'm not sure if I was a professional I would be enthused about being offered unwanted jawbreakers.
escorts are not objects therefore the customer cannot always be right as service and "product" is YMMV. Missed the point there eh jim? They are not a Chinese buffet. It is not like ordering pizza. You are buying time with a human and that my friend is where the customer can't always be right because we are talking people not objects. These ladies have emotions, feelings, and can react. Unlike a pizza or ginger beef.. You can't ask the sp to take herself back to the kitchen to remake her service or attitude better. Sorry that lady wasted your time but you even repeated and encouraged her bad behavior to continue.
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