1 in 200 or the estimated 4 million chinese prostitutes are thought to be hiv positiv

[summerbreeze]

food for thought,

could be why we are seeing more and more "no cover" services

some of the mainland Chinese girls are taught that Chinese medicine and prevent STD by their pimps in china

probably the country girls who arrive at the higher price cities and end up working girls

http://doxyspotting.com/millions-of-chinese-prostitutes/

 

[Big Dog Striker]

With the cracks of the Chinese economy already exposed, I think both figures would increase much further in the years to come as China tries to shift from an export economy to a consumer based one. As part of the Chinese officials plan to move about 600 million people from the country to urban areas in the coming years, it is evident that the numbers will increase. I just hope that their Health Department will do their homework. :nod:

 

[summerbreeze]

some of them making their way over here no doubt, the snake heads recruit them from hong kong, put them to work there and then when they get tired and worn out, send them along over here

 

[nickcan]

Chinese people rarely are into drugs and homosexuality compared to NA or Europeans.

This is what I found:
Shannon et al reported HIV prevalence of 58.1% among 198 female sex workers under the age of 18 in Vancouver.(12) In a study of sex workers of all ages, including youth, Miller et al found an HIV prevalence of 23% in Vancouver.(2) In the study by Mehrabadi et al, of Aboriginal women involved in sex work, an HIV prevalence of 17% was reported in Vancouver and 12% in Prince George.

Now that's scary 23%!

http://www.ohtn.on.ca/Documents/Knowledge-Exchange/RR58-Sex-Worker-HIV-Risk.pdf

 

[vancity_cowboy]

Chinese people rarely are into drugs and homosexuality compared to NA or Europeans.

This is what I found:
Shannon et al reported HIV prevalence of 58.1% among 198 female sex workers under the age of 18 in Vancouver.(12) In a study of sex workers of all ages, including youth, Miller et al found an HIV prevalence of 23% in Vancouver.(2) In the study by Mehrabadi et al, of Aboriginal women involved in sex work, an HIV prevalence of 17% was reported in Vancouver and 12% in Prince George.

Now that's scary 23%!

http://www.ohtn.on.ca/Documents/Knowledge-Exchange/RR58-Sex-Worker-HIV-Risk.pdf

i'm not sure whether you're deliberately mis-interpreting the literature or deliberately trying to mislead the board, but the studies you've listed were all about 'survival sex' workers... some specifically using intravenous drugs and some not specifically doing so

'survival sex' is a phrase you seem to have forgotten to use in describing the subjects of the studies you quote

do you know what a survival sex worker is?
do you know what they look like?
do you know what the likelihood is that one of us would have sex with them?
and do you know what the chances are of an hiv-negative male catching hiv from an hiv-positive female?

if you don't know the answers to any of the questions above, i suggest you research them before you continue to try to spread your fear to us

...just sayin'

 

[Alix Turner]

i'm not sure whether you're deliberately mis-interpreting the literature or deliberately trying to mislead the board, but the studies you've listed were all about 'survival sex' workers... some specifically using intravenous drugs and some not specifically doing so

'survival sex' is a phrase you seem to have forgotten to use in describing the subjects of the studies you quote

do you know what a survival sex worker is?
do you know what they look like?
do you know what the likelihood is that one of us would have sex with them?
and do you know what the chances are of an hiv-negative male catching hiv from an hiv-positive female?

if you don't know the answers to any of the questions above, i suggest you research them before you continue to try to spread your fear to us

...just sayin'

Thank you for this!

 

[BORKO]

i'm not sure whether you're deliberately mis-interpreting the literature or deliberately trying to mislead the board, but the studies you've listed were all about 'survival sex' workers... some specifically using intravenous drugs and some not specifically doing so

'survival sex' is a phrase you seem to have forgotten to use in describing the subjects of the studies you quote

do you know what a survival sex worker is?
do you know what they look like?
do you know what the likelihood is that one of us would have sex with them?
and do you know what the chances are of an hiv-negative male catching hiv from an hiv-positive female?

if you don't know the answers to any of the questions above, i suggest you research them before you continue to try to spread your fear to us

...just sayin'

Thank you for this!

I would think all of those subjects are things everyone should be educated on.

I'd also think fearmongering on an internet forum only works on people that let it work on them. Everyone involved in this industry, or people having sex in general, has a responsibility to get educated and protect themselves. Kind of sucks the Health Nurse left and started their own board, could probably have addressed these allegations with a quickly posted question to her back in the day.

 

[Tugela]

Lol that is so laughable within the bullshit meter it almost slipped by with your numbers from studies not related to this unless all the SP's we are seeing are survival sex workers. Lol

Chinese have laws against homosexuality. So even if you were to find a number it wouldn't be accurate. Think 1950's southern united states for the way chinese feel about open homosexuality. Not like Canada at all. 0 tolerence or acceptance.

As for drug use OMG ever hear of opium dens 1700's,1800's 1900's. ? Asians have been creating natural drugs for centuries. Many are considered to be narcotics by western culture. Many drugs are illegal in asian culture but it doesn't stop them from being used. So your comment is invalid.

If it is illegal it doesn't happen in a socialist paradise. Do you know nothing?

 

[The Lizard King]

Chinese people rarely are into drugs and homosexuality compared to NA or Europeans.

This is what I found:
Shannon et al reported HIV prevalence of 58.1% among 198 female sex workers under the age of 18 in Vancouver.(12) In a study of sex workers of all ages, including youth, Miller et al found an HIV prevalence of 23% in Vancouver.(2) In the study by Mehrabadi et al, of Aboriginal women involved in sex work, an HIV prevalence of 17% was reported in Vancouver and 12% in Prince George.

Now that's scary 23%!

http://www.ohtn.on.ca/Documents/Knowledge-Exchange/RR58-Sex-Worker-HIV-Risk.pdf

Since you're quoting this as fact, you found this how? Did you do the same "research" as these over-educated fear mongers?

What We Did
We conducted a search in Medline using the filter for optimizing the
retrieval of reviews by combining the following terms: (Prostitution (MeSH
term) OR Sex Workers (MeSH term)) AND HIV. We also searched the
Cochrane Library by searching for sex work* AND HIV. In addition, we
conducted a related articles search in PubMed using a relevant review by
Cwikel et al.(16)

 

[summerbreeze]

I think any study taken out of context is probably not worth time arguing about. Studies are done by researchers to explore a finding or make a point.

The main point this study comes out and states is that numbers are impossible to get acurately due to the difficulty of establishing facts in an underground industry so to speak.

Main concern this study points at is that education would help but immigrants and young uneducated girls are hard to educate and the risks may not be fully understood to this demographic.

Problem extends to drug users, tatoo, and or any activity where there might be a transfer capability.

Why bother flaming each other over a study, the researchers don't even take it as seriously as you guys do.

quote from the beginning of the study.........."Establishing the prevalence of HIV among sex workers is challenging because they are a hard-to-reach population. Estimates range from 1% to 60%."

Upfront they qualify that estimate range is from 1% to 60% and since it is a hard-to-reach demographic they are limited to the sampling they conducted the study on.

-------------------

initial thread was just to point out that many girls in china (some who are now over here) are not well educated as to the risks and have a false sense of security that they can take medicine to cure anything, its just some logic which may explain some of the attitudes some of the asian providers might have that's all

chill dudes.........

 

[wilde]

As for drug use OMG ever hear of opium dens 1700's,1800's 1900's. ? Asians have been creating natural drugs for centuries. Many are considered to be narcotics by western culture. Many drugs are illegal in asian culture but it doesn't stop them from being used. So your comment is invalid.

Then you should know that opium has been used medicinally in China but freebasing opium was introduced by the Europeans...

 

[Blonde Brynn]

Then you should know that opium has been used medicinally in China but freebasing opium was introduced by the Europeans...

I know you're just being polite in not pointing it out, but it's also worth mentioning how it's continued presence in China was enforced by the British and their allies with two bloody wars.

 

[Sonny]

I know you're just being polite in not pointing it out, but it's also worth mentioning how it's continued presence in China was enforced by the British and their allies with two bloody wars.

Yes, the "Opium Wars" There are several google hits on the topic, and some of us know of it from high school history (LOL).

Here's Wikipedia link, but check out the others on Google for an attempt at balanced views.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opium_Wars