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The one thing which is encouraging is that as far as I know, there's been on violence directly related to the verdict, that's a very encouraging sign.
 

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I was responding to hatrick's "big scary black guy" comment.

Zimmerman was 4 inches shorter than Trayvon.
Well I don't know if he's a big scary black guy, but I do suspect if they were forced to fight each other, absent weapons, Trayvon would be the likely one to win.
 

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The gated community was multi-ethnic, so Zimmerman would have been used to dealing with black neighbours.

I think any young guy in a hoodie would have attracted the attention of a volunteer late at night, black or white.

OJ Simpson was acquitted and the evidence was much clearer he was guilty. There was more racism at play in that acquittal than in this one IMHO.
 

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The gated community was multi-ethnic, so Zimmerman would have been used to dealing with black neighbours.

I think any young guy in a hoodie would have attracted the attention of a volunteer late at night, black or white.

OJ Simpson was acquitted and the evidence was much clearer he was guilty. There was more racism at play in that acquittal than in this one IMHO.
I think OJ Simpson's verdict was essentially bought and paid for. To me that wasn't a case of racism as much as it was an indication of what one can do if they have unlimited financial resources.
 

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although he was found not guilty,I can't help but think Zimmerman is a dead-man-walking
 

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In reality the lax gun laws are to blame. Getting a concealed carry permit is akin to getting a drivers licence. Zimmerman would not have even been involved without a weapon. I have friends in Atlanta and they all carry hand guns "just because they can".

Judging this trial through the media is pointless too. Each branch of the media has its own slant on what happened and its dependent upon each person to decide what really happened that night.

The NRA is the most powerful lobby organization in the US. They have a lot of influence with Government and the media.
 

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In reality the lax gun laws are to blame. Getting a concealed carry permit is akin to getting a drivers licence. Zimmerman would not have even been involved without a weapon. I have friends in Atlanta and they all carry hand guns "just because they can".

Judging this trial through the media is pointless too. Each branch of the media has its own slant on what happened and its dependent upon each person to decide what really happened that night.

The NRA is the most powerful lobby organization in the US. They have a lot of influence with Government and the media.
I agree. As long as US citizen's are under the illusion that having more, instead of less, guns makes people safe than you haven't heard the last of these type of cases. The problem is now that you have over 300M guns floating around, there really isn't a mechanism short of restricting bullets that can deal with the issue of safety, because unfortunately there's a grain of truth to the idea that if you NOW start restricting who can and can't have guns, the bad guys are likely to ignore these rules.

I remember posting on CNN that they should have a gun amnesty program whereby everyone who turns in a gun gets $200. One guy challenged me that he just spend $2400 on his gun and no way was he going to accept $200 for it. This was right after Sandy Hook, so that's the mentality you're trying to change.
 

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I stand corrected. So much for first media reports!!!

Then the only reason he was shot was because he had a foul mouth with a bad attitude?
He was a kid with a chip on his shoulder and it cost him his life.
This tragedy is one I will be advising my kids on.
It doesn't pay to be a smart ass teenager in a gun toting society!
I'm not even sure he had a chip on his shoulders, he may have, but I don't think that was the issue. It was more of the case of a black boy being where someone who had a gun thought he shouldn't be. At least that's my take on it.
 

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I agree. As long as US citizen's are under the illusion that having more, instead of less, guns makes people safe than you haven't heard the last of these type of cases. The problem is now that you have over 300M guns floating around, there really isn't a mechanism short of restricting bullets that can deal with the issue of safety, because unfortunately there's a grain of truth to the idea that if you NOW start restricting who can and can't have guns, the bad guys are likely to ignore these rules.

I remember posting on CNN that they should have a gun amnesty program whereby everyone who turns in a gun gets $200. One guy challenged me that he just spend $2400 on his gun and no way was he going to accept $200 for it. This was right after Sandy Hook, so that's the mentality you're trying to change.
Give them the option of $200 for giving up the gun, or 20 years in federal prison for keeping the gun.

I think most reasonable people would make the right choice.
 

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I stand corrected. So much for first media reports!!!

Then the only reason he was shot was because he had a foul mouth with a bad attitude?
He was a kid with a chip on his shoulder and it cost him his life.
This tragedy is one I will be advising my kids on.
It doesn't pay to be a smart ass teenager in a gun toting society!
No, the reason he was shot was because he chose to beat up a guy who happened to have a gun.
 

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I think poor guy, his life is ruined, and I believe he was innocent, as found by the Jury...

Its always sad that people die and the kid may or may not have deserved it, but he was a thug and this sometimes happens to thugs..
 

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I think poor guy, his life is ruined, and I believe he was innocent, as found by the Jury...

Its always sad that people die and the kid may or may not have deserved it, but he was a thug and this sometimes happens to thugs..
There's no indication whatsoever that he was a thug. He appears to have been a black teenager at the wrong place at a time when a vigilante had a gun and was in the mood to profile. What proof do you have that Trayvon Martin was a "thug"?
 

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Sorry to you'all, but if I see any young guy, wearing a hoodie, colour of the hoodie or person is NOT important, lingering around my building's exits, I'm going to begin a criminal profile. In fact, he doesn't have to be young, but wearing a hoodie, hanging around the doorways is enough. But he's not going to end up dead either.....Zimmerman should pay for taking another person's life when he should have been at home watching tv.
 

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Sorry to you'all, but if I see any young guy, wearing a hoodie, colour of the hoodie or person is NOT important, lingering around my building's exits, I'm going to begin a criminal profile. In fact, he doesn't have to be young, but wearing a hoodie, hanging around the doorways is enough. But he's not going to end up dead either.....Zimmerman should pay for taking another person's life when he should have been at home watching tv.

What the hell are you talking about? It was raining at the time. Hell I wear a hoodie sometimes when it's raining out for f$#ks sakes and I'm 50, so does my 15 year old daughter. Since when is wearing a hoodie a crime or an indication of your intent to commit a crime?

Was there a news flash I missed??
 

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Sorry to you'all, but if I see any young guy, wearing a hoodie, colour of the hoodie or person is NOT important, lingering around my building's exits, I'm going to begin a criminal profile. In fact, he doesn't have to be young, but wearing a hoodie, hanging around the doorways is enough. But he's not going to end up dead either.....Zimmerman should pay for taking another person's life when he should have been at home watching tv.
Oh give me a break, do you how many people out there wear hoodies? And you're going to profile someone for wearing a hoodie? That's pretty lame. That could be Mark Zuckerberg walking around in your building with a hoodie on (he visits Vancouver frequently btw) with his hoodie up and you're gonna criminally profile him?? Right. Millionaires and billionaires wear hoodies and they wear them up, hate to break it to ya, not just criminals and junkies.
 

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What the hell are you talking about? It was raining at the time. Hell I wear a hoodie sometimes when it's raining out for f$#ks sakes and I'm 50, so does my 15 year old daughter. Since when is wearing a hoodie a crime or an indication of your intent to commit a crime?

Was there a news flash I missed??
Apparently we both missed it, oh right I don't watch the news because it endorses stereotypes, racial conquer and divide - hate mongering, and a bunch of other crap I'd rather not expose my brain to.
 

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Give them the option of $200 for giving up the gun, or 20 years in federal prison for keeping the gun.

I think most reasonable people would make the right choice.

Ya they went out and bought a record amount of guns after the Sandy Hook incident, many of which were semi-automatics.
 

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I myself dont get why this trial that has been completed with Zimmerman aquitted has drawn so much about the race issue when the Florida State prosecutors did not do so for the actual trial.Of course the media is to blame for the most part because of sensationalistic yellow journalism.Hell the pictures the media used were several years old FFS.Add in the special interest groups such as the NAACP and others who look at this as an opportunity to put the proverbial bread on the table for themselves.On the flip side of the coin is the NRA and the people who have CCWpermits and other gun advocates.

When it comes down to it there were white Republicans that wanted a trial and black Democrats that did not want a trial.Race was not an issue but the medial slanted it that way and very fast.

Then there is the milataristic view of the New Black Panther Party who feel that the killing was racially motivated.The message posted on youtube is pretty much just a long running sentence of racial slurs
directed towards caucasians.With the idea of outright rioting and acts of violence towards white people
which is completely fucked up as Zimmerman is for the most part Spanish by lineage.


http://youtu.be/5xQtryE1stw

Pretty fucked up if you ask me.When OJ was aquitted did you see the average middle class white person become enraged and foaming at the mouth because he was aquitted and want to do bad things
to black people in general....nope...though OJ did get sued like a motherfucker which is a good possiblity
for Zimmerman as well.


Was I there as a direct witness to the confrontation/shooting?No I was not and neither was the NAACP nor any other special interest group nor the Revrend Al Sharpton who has also pulled the race card on this fiasco.2 people were there,Martin and Zimmerman and nobody else and Zimmerman was aquitted
after a trial by jury.He will most likely have to look over his shoulder for the rest of his life and have a lot of other headaches as well but he was found not guilty in the eyes of the law.

SR
 
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He will most likely face a civil suit and he has most likely allready gotten countless death threats.Federal
prosecution is pretty much off the table as it would delve into cival rights laws and because the race issue was not raised/used by the Florida State prosecutors I highly doubt the Federal prosecutors would pursue it.When it comes down to brass tacks this was not a hate crime nor was it racially motivated.It was slanted that way by the media and the special interest groups jumped on the bandwagon for the ride to further their own ends.

There are a several civil lawsuits that will or might be launched and the first out of the gate was by Zimmerman at NBC Universal for defamation.A good possiblity is the Martin family launching a civil suit
against Zimmerman and so on and so forth.Basically the guy will not go to jail or serve time in prison but now the filthy element of the USA's justice system has to have it's turn in the form of frivilous lawsuits
with the main driving force behind it being the opportunistic scumbag lawyers who want to cash in and jump on the bandwagon after the judicial process has been rendered and the guy was aquitted.

SR
 

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He will most likely face a civil suit and he has most likely allready gotten countless death threats.Federal
prosecution is pretty much off the table as it would delve into cival rights laws and because the race issue was not raised/used by the Florida State prosecutors I highly doubt the Federal prosecutors would pursue it.When it comes down to brass tacks this was not a hate crime nor was it racially motivated.It was slanted that way by the media and the special interest groups jumped on the bandwagon for the ride to further their own ends.

There are a several civil lawsuits that will or might be launched and the first out of the gate was by Zimmerman at NBC Universal for defamation.A good possiblity is the Martin family launching a civil suit
against Zimmerman and so on and so forth.Basically the guy will not go to jail or serve time in prison but now the filthy element of the USA's justice system has to have it's turn in the form of frivilous lawsuits
with the main driving force behind it being the opportunistic scumbag lawyers who want to cash in and jump on the bandwagon after the judicial process has been rendered and the guy was aquitted.

SR
That's why they have bankruptcy laws. Casey Anthony declared bankruptcy, it's just a matter of time before Zimmerman does as well.
 
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