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Yep, been in university bathrooms, and college bathrooms, (and office bathrooms at Christmas parties)...and the discussion groups where you are supposed to focus on the material at hand, but, all a gal has to do is mention a word associated with romance, and, zoom...off topic.
As someone states above, we are human. I don't understand the negative attitude about women wanting life partners or husbands. When did that become an awful thing? Christ, without that drive to make babies we'd have died out a long time ago...we aren't a terribly robust species.
The idea that 'tough' women don't have serious feelings and cannot be hurt cause they know the score, is pretty naive.
I never wanted marriage, or a regular bf for that matter. I was into the career thing, but damn, it kept creeping up in the equation every time I went out with a guy and he wanted to introduce me to his family.
I am first generation Canadian, and I know what it's like for a traditional family to look at you in askance when you don't tow 'the company line' and get with the program of marriage. You watch your siblings get hitched (and it didn't spark my interest) and when they're all settled they all look at you. That didn't influence my decision to get married...some fucking weird hormonal thing was responsible for that.
What I was getting at.....was that it ain't fair to be vague. Draw the line in the sand. That goes the same for women. There are lots of lonely fellows who want a nice partner (not here of course

) it's not fair for a woman to ask a guy on dates and hang out with him, without making the intentions clear. She should tell him on the first date if she has any intention of fucking him, and he should tell her if he has any intention of marrying her...but I'm just old fashioned, I guess.
If you are going to take a very clear, straight forward transaction, like sexual services, and start mixing that up with off the clock fun, then be sure to indicate, very early on, that it ain't going anywhere...
Tant, this thread has been quite interesting. I learned more here than from that Mars and Venus book. Small wonder relationships are a struggle!