Hey guys, what sets off your "spidey senses"?

[Dgodus]

Seen that phrase plenty at the start of reviews that generally end up negative or not so stellar.

So having felt "off" about going to see some providers a couple times (some turned out not well to bad, had a few go on without a hitch), in most cases people I had seen before (so it wasn't just nerves or anything like that), and I didn't walk into the room giving off that uneasy vibe as I always walk in with the same demenor (once I considered simply no showing I was feeling so weird about it - the lady had already received the donation anyways - and in hindsight I should have done just that); I'm curious to know what gives that "nope dont think this is going to work out" feeling in some of the guys here, and what they do about it. Both when trying to book something or after already having book. I'm not simply refering to cold feet, bad reviews, or showing up to a sketchy location but that vague "something isn't right" feeling.

Difficult question to answer I suppose, but I lack enough experience, and would like to ask instead of just getting really bitten in the ass bad again (like I said, other times things have worked out just like they were supposed to, actually better than I could have expected).

Cheers

 

[Guardian Angel]

Any time I plan to see a new sp, the one thing that gets the hair standing on the back of my neck, is not being ready at the time the appointment was set.

My "spidey senses" make me wonder:

Is she still with and finishing with another client, I don't like being herded in

Is she late because she is doing drugs or boozed up

Is she late because of a boyfriend that hasn't left yet

Is she late because she is getting dropped of by her pimp

Is she late because the place is a mess

And so on......

At the very most I will wait for 15 mins providing she initiated the call to let me know she is running a bit late.

G.A.

 

[Sir Jim]

I want no part of any of the illicit drug scene. I look at the neighborhood, if it's low rent, my senses go up but it not a deal breaker. I don't expect 3,000 / month penthouses like I would enjoy with Laiya of old but, a neighborhood in decay can be an indicater.

Next I look at the apartment. I'm not big on basement suites as there are nosy neighbors upstairs that are possibly upset by the usual high number of visitors at all hours the suite holder now attracts.
Not to mention how thin the walls sometimes are.

When in the apartment, look for it to be tidy. Dishes in the sink, unemptied ash trays, water on the floor, a sink covered in make-up all add to my uncomfortablilty.

I've left a consolation tip a few times and walked. It pisses them off but I'm there for a relaxing time, not wondering what I'm gonna catch since personal hygene will always be linked to
how clean they keep their place.

I went to this dump in Surrey once where there was no toilet paper, no towel to dry off with and no linen on a mattress. I asked for my money back but was told that someone had already left with it.
Lesson learned.

As to them being late. I'll give two or three minutes, but that's it.

I did make an exception with Jessika XXX and waited an hour for her. (Sometimes good things do cum for those who wait!)

 

[blazejowski]

The actual incall location is the biggest one for me... then once I meet the girl, I am usually a very good judge of character, and can make the right call before Little Blaze takes over...

 

[Dgodus]

I guess I didn't word my question well enough. I'm not overly concerned about location (it's not really an issue with the providers I choose), and the amount of time I generally see people for I dont quibble about a few minutes late.

Problem is, with those two signatures above what I'm trying to type I just cant think straight at all right now!!!

It had more to do with even before getting there, something just off. I guess something that vague is going to be situational and based on being through it before.

I'd much rather going back to blankly staring at sigs and forgetting all about it anyways :clap2:

 

[badbadboy]

Missy and Vanesssa - you are both at the higher end of the SP scale and your professionalism has never been in question. There are some ladies out there who for whatever reason do set off a pooner's radar and IMHO this thread has some value.

Some of the posters have posted some "real life" stuff that we as pooners would know about or understand because we have seen it and experienced it.

 

[badbadboy]

Judging someones character before meeting them should have nothing to do with the price they put on their time.

Agreed and I have walked from a $300/Hr date because one thing mentioned in this thread. I won't fill in any details other than there was no resistance to me retrieving my $ and walking.

 

[bcneil]

For me it still has to be when an SP uses the same pictures, as when I joined this site......

I also get turned off by ads with weird information.

I was just on erslist now. There was one girl advertising as part-time student, who only works in summer, so get it now....

Of course its not summer now...does that mean she is booking for next summer, or just too lazy to change her ad since summer?

Oh a few days ago there was an Asian, in the title of her ad it included CBC (Canadian born Chinese right?)
Then in the body of her ad, says from Hong Kong....wtf???

 

[JamieA]

At the very most I will wait for 15 mins providing she initiated the call to let me know she is running a bit late.

G.A.

As to them being late. I'll give two or three minutes, but that's it.

Be on time!! -- I always tell people that if they are going to be early or late AT ALL, they need to call and notify me.

I find that more and more SPs tend to text or call to say that they are running late or still getting ready, when an SP contacts the pooner and does this, I think it is an excellent practice, and if I'm not pressed for time, I don't mind if the session gets rescheduled by a half hour or an hour etc.

What I think isn't okay is when an SP does not text or call at all before or at the start time of the session to say that she is running late.

If I'm going to an SPs incall, I'll send an initial text or give the SP a call at the appointment time, if it goes unanswered, I will wait about 10 minutes and then try to text or call the SP again, and if there is no answer, I'll leave and maybe text to say that I can't wait and have to go; I've lost interest in pooning by now anyways. From past experience, I'd say more often than not, if it isn't a well reviewed SP or one of your regular SPs, and you decide to go through with a session with an SP that is twenty, thirty or more minutes late, it tends to be an unremarkable pooning session anyways (there are the occassional exceptions).

 

[future canadian]

a bad email in response to my email (one that seems to reflect a total lack of interest).

 

[Guardian Angel]

Hello Missy & Vanessa

I am really referring to some ladies where it seems they are stringing you along. I have absolutely no problem with any lady texting or calling and asking for more time.

The scenario I an referring to goes like this:

A time is set, I call as I leave to confirm I am on my way, a reply comes back saying ok.
I get to the area and text for exact address and I am told can you give me a half hr, ok I will, but start to wonder why this is necessary when 30 mins ago everything was going as scheduled?

30 Mins goes by & I have to text to say ok are we on, then another text, can you hold on for 15 mins Ok I am there now why not wait another 15.

Don't hear back, text again saying what's up I can see you another time, No give me another 5, okay I do and so on.

So now when I book and don't get the courtesy from the lady of initiating the time changes, I go into my shell and the spidey senses tell me to forget it.

It sounds like you two would never allow that to happen and for that I would be grateful

G.A.

 

[SolTNutz]

My worries are when there is no name in the ad or ph # is something like 403/six two seven/seventyone thirtythree............... Or pic, if it looks too good it probably is B&S.

 

[noodle_engineer]

When some 20 year old asian guy starts patting you down for weapons, and you notice he lingers near your crotch a bit too much.

 

[JamieA]

Hello Missy & Vanessa

I am really referring to some ladies where it seems they are stringing you along. I have absolutely no problem with any lady texting or calling and asking for more time.

The scenario I an referring to goes like this:

A time is set, I call as I leave to confirm I am on my way, a reply comes back saying ok.
I get to the area and text for exact address and I am told can you give me a half hr, ok I will, but start to wonder why this is necessary when 30 mins ago everything was going as scheduled?

30 Mins goes by & I have to text to say ok are we on, then another text, can you hold on for 15 mins Ok I am there now why not wait another 15.

Don't hear back, text again saying what's up I can see you another time, No give me another 5, okay I do and so on.

So now when I book and don't get the courtesy from the lady of initiating the time changes, I go into my shell and the spidey senses tell me to forget it.

It sounds like you two would never allow that to happen and for that I would be grateful

G.A.

To me, personally from experience, this indicates a heavy drug user...if I were a pooner I'd avoid this.

Hey G.A., I think many veteran pooners have had experiences like you describe. It's happened a few times to me over my pooning career, the last time something like that happened, I decided that I'll just wait 10 minutes from now on and thats it, and then contact my backup plan if I have one.

 

[Guardian Angel]

To me, personally from experience, this indicates a heavy drug user...if I were a pooner I'd avoid this.

I agree Mel.

G.A.

 

[sevenofnine]

Im pretty tolerant not a hell of a lot bothers me, I guess it should have more sense in some instances.

But when me and a lady get into a fight before we even meet,either on the phone or through email, guess that is a clue that it is not going to go well.

Like I said Im pretty tolerant but a lady wanted to see me once, I mean she was emailing me, lets get togehter your an intersting guy, lets do this, she kept on me ok,
Fianally I agreed to meet her for drinks, during the evening she made me a very good offer, finically and well no limits anything I wanted.
But she also had a very loose mouth. She told me she was involved with some guys on the message board told me there handle as well as there real name and where they worked,
And she flat out told me she ruined a guys life.
It was over even before it began for me, it killed it right there.

Another lady we only had talked a view times on email, and she also let it drop or hint, how easy it would be to destroy a man in this, I again never saw her.
I have seen to well established escorts quite a bit, and I have no idea about any clients they see, sure at times they mention something, but never any handle or name, the only way I would know is if I read a review.
And the two established sp's that I have seen they go out of there way to protect there client, even if they don't like them. They know who this is played.
So I guess that sums it up for me stay away from any women who doesn't know how the game is played.

 

[Dgodus]

When some 20 year old asian guy starts patting you down for weapons, and you notice he lingers near your crotch a bit too much.

oh shit does that service cost extra??!?

 

[Alix Turner]

oh shit does that service cost extra??!?

always ask, while a lot of people would consider it included in the gpe (gay pimp experience) he may not be offering that kind of service, and you don't want to get caught with your pants down if that's the case

 

[Dgodus]

you don't want to get caught with your pants down

The cops have always been very disapproving when they've found me like that

Sticks in the mud I say!

 

[chiakishinya]

I hope my personal experience and analysis can help.

For long version, just read on. For summary, just scroll to bottom.

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I'm pretty picky and cautious when selecting a lady to visit or to invite over, but I usually have a great time with the ladies I choose, and that's because I do the homework to make sure the ladies and myself are as compatible as possible.

A concept that may be new to some is this: before picking your dream lady, you should also figure out what kind of person you are, and what kinds of ladies are compatible with your unique personality. Have you ever visited a lady who is so beautiful and so friendly, but then you found out that there's little in common between the two of you, and as a result, your experience wasn't even as close to some of the better experience you've had with other "less-appealing" ladies?

This might be too much psychology, philosophy, and homework for those who just want to fuck. But the truth is, when you are in a mood just wanting to have sex, fucking a dead fish (because you've made a poor choice in selecting the right girl for you) is one of the worst things that can happen to you. Careful selection will come a long way in ensuring you get what you want, and careful selection will also allow the ladies who service you appreciate who you are, and in return give you an even better experience.


That said,

I avoid ladies that (in no particular order):

1. have no names in the ads
2. only use e-mail for contact
3. have only dark and pixelated pictures
4. have zero reviews
5. use no punctuation or structure in their writing (these paragraphs will usually read like something typed up in a hurry, if there's any paragraphs at all)
6. have only 3~5 lines of descriptions in their ads
7. have fake pictures that are flagged by image search engines
8. charge way too little for their services (e.g. a super model picture, but the ad is only charging $100 for FS)
9. girls who claim to be 20 or younger

Despite the list I've given here, I will still ignore any or all rules if there are other information provided that give enough credibility. For example, a personal website.


I appreciate and lean towards booking ladies that have:

1. honest pictures
- pictures that are not easily searchable by image search engines
- pictures that are taken with good cameras with decent angles and lighting, which show that effort was put into the advertisement, and a slightly less chance of fraud (do not have to be professional, in fact, some professional pictures with too much blurring, visual effects, or other sort of alteration are less credible to me)
- pictures that cannot be found in other different or similar ads under different names or numbers

2. personal web site
- again, shows that effort was put into advertisement, and while some smarter and more resourceful scammers build their own websites, too, the effort and costs of maintaining a website are too much for the average and lesser scammers

3. have good reviews from reputable members

4. charge reasonably, or slightly more expensive (I typically have a lot of great experience with independent ladies from around 200 ~ 350 per hr, and a few rare great experiences with Asian gems from around 160 and above)

5. write at least a few paragraphs with good English in their ads (if you read enough ads, you can almost tell whether it was a girl or a guy who wrote it, and whether or not they are actually trying to sell quality service, or trying to rip you off)

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In summary, you want to avoid advertisements (and even reviews) that are too short and have very little information to back it up. Those are generally scams posted by pimps who are probably playing video games as they are posting the ads, and they would obviously prefer to do something else rather than spending hours to prepare credible pictures and write in proper English.

My spidey senses go off when any of the above list of rules are broken, then I will try to do more research to verify.

But most importantly, look at the good advertisements you've picked, and try to see if the girl is your type of girl. Look at the writing, the font, the pictures, the kinds of clothing that was shown in the picture, the colour theme of their ads and website, and the reviews. Is this girl too aggressive or too calm for you. What kind of girls do you think will feel comfortable around you. Are you shy, or are you dominant? In time, all these will become second nature to you, and you should have more and more successes.

Not to mention, the ladies will also most definitely appreciate you more, too.


Best of luck to you all! I still rely on luck a bit sometimes!