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Tired of SPs saying they know how to seduce or is it just me

Dickson

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For years I have been looking for the perfect SP who knows how to seduce. Yet I have yet to find one yet. It is normally the same thing I have to make the first move. Yea I leave the donation on the table and they have a drink and they sit and chat and chat but they rarely make the first move. It is like pulling teeth for them to move in. I have to constantly have to push to get them to get into it.

If we get into the kissing and the petting. It is not a natural progression to the bed room. It is like this break and she tells me to get undressed or lets go to the bed room. Or take off your clothes which breaks the moment. I think there was this one lady years ago Teresa was her real name she was with Scarletts house back then and she was the best. But it surprises me even paying SPs they just do not know how to seduce me or maybe it is me.

The Russians and East Germans are the worst. I just want to be seduced. Hard to find good SPs that can fit that bill they want me to make the first move. I have to pay and I have to seduce them or teach them. I hate that.

Is it because they know we are paying so why try? :confused:
 

sevenofnine

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some one who i was a regular with not sure if i would call it a seduction
but the first time i saw her i had no idea how to proceed it was my first experiance with an escort as well
she just reached down my pants and started things rolling.

everytime i saw her, it was like a clock ticking away, very soon she would just reach down my pants or unzip me, like with in two or three minutes
didn't matter the length of the session i booked for a supper date, so we had time but like in two minutes after opening the door she was reaching down my pants.

it didn't take me long to get into it, i would just strip as soon as the door was closed i would just take my clothes off
once she teased me let me stand there naked while she let the dog in and out and fooled around in the kitchen sort of laughing at me or giggling to herself

latter we kind of cooled a bit but not much, it was kind of always the same,
and that was her rep ready and willing for non stop sex and anything went
some guys didn't like her style or fake boobs
but no one every dared to complain about the service she gave.
 

Alix Turner

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For years I have been looking for the perfect SP who knows how to seduce. Yet I have yet to find one yet. It is normally the same thing I have to make the first move. Yea I leave the donation on the table and they have a drink and they sit and chat and chat but they rarely make the first move. It is like pulling teeth for them to move in. I have to constantly have to push to get them to get into it.

If we get into the kissing and the petting. It is not a natural progression to the bed room. It is like this break and she tells me to get undressed or lets go to the bed room. Or take off your clothes which breaks the moment. I think there was this one lady years ago Teresa was her real name she was with Scarletts house back then and she was the best. But it surprises me even paying SPs they just do not know how to seduce me or maybe it is me.

The Russians and East Germans are the worst. I just want to be seduced. Hard to find good SPs that can fit that bill they want me to make the first move. I have to pay and I have to seduce them or teach them. I hate that.

Is it because they know we are paying so why try? :confused:
Cirumstances would suggest that no matter how seductive your partner is capable of being, if you are running into the same problem with many different people the odds are pretty high that it is the one costant (yourself) that is directing the pattern of behaviour that you are experiencing with such a variety of women.
 

Dickson

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Cirumstances would suggest that no matter how seductive your partner is capable of being, if you are running into the same problem with many different people the odds are pretty high that it is the one costant (yourself) that is directing the pattern of behaviour that you are experiencing with such a variety of women.
Ok it is me!
 

the old maxx50

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Yes it is great to get seduced .. But It has not happened that much with me either .. But there has been the some . and with me I am seeing them again and again so we build up a familiarity of each others likes .. The one escort that was able to make me cum regularly .. was able to seduce .. talk cock talk and go after what she wanted ..She would push me in on to the bed ,, or the couch . unbutton my shirt and jeans and play with my cock , then she was up straddling my face for her pussy licking ... I knew she was getting off and when we fucked some time she was just gushing over and over .. We knew what each other loved .

For me it is difficult to let go of control of me .. But if some one take charge of the situation for both our pleasure I love it .. Don't like bossy selfish people that do nothing and just want others to do stuff .
 

Dickson

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Hmmmm ... I might have to 'unretire' from doing full service so I can show you how it's done. :D

When you book with SP's do you tell them that's your fantasy? Do you book with submissive or dominant women?

Many men who are in positions of authority and in control at work, enjoy letting the woman take charge when they play.

xo :)
Oh Please! It is not that I want to be dominated I just want to be wanted. I do not want to be the one that has to start and finish. I do not think it is too much to ask. But maybe it is me as Ms Turner pointed out.
 

vanessa kelly

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I would suggest mentioning that you would like just that , Dickson, your an attractive, sensitive, caring man with lots of wisdom a great sense of humor and a sexual appetite that would be fun to try and full fill not to mention ummm your package, I only say this because I have meet you HOWEVER reading your reviews I got the impression you like to take control ...


I think now that you have expressed more of what your looking for your next rendezvous will be even better :)

Good luck and happy pooning
VK
 

Alix Turner

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Oh Please! It is not that I want to be dominated I just want to be wanted. I do not want to be the one that has to start and finish. I do not think it is too much to ask. But maybe it is me as Ms Turner pointed out.
I just figured it was worth pointing out that if by your description, it was either a case of..

A) you have managed to find yourself in a bizarre hiccup of plausibility in which every high end escort you have seen has suddenly (temporarily) lost her ability to captivate and arouse desire in her male client for the evening (repeatedly, for those you see again)

or

B) subconsciously, you used several different approaches that all worked against your interest in playing the role of *extremely desireable partner*

For instance;
-in carrying on a conversation, you may have given the impression that it would be inappropriate to interrupt you because you seem to have a lot to get off of your chest, so she does not interrupt to kiss you.
-If you comment on her attire or lingerie, or do not remain engaged while taking off your own clothing.. (perhaps there is a point at which she is still mostly dressed while you are nearly nude that she thinks you might not know how to get her clasps undone, and chooses to undress for you)

... since there is nothing you can do about it if the problem is on their side, you might as well choose to believe that the only thing standing between the lusty encounter you want and the reciprocal interaction you know now.. is yourself, and then work on changing to suit your wants
 

chilli

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I just figured it was worth pointing out that if by your description, it was either a case of..

A) you have managed to find yourself in a bizarre hiccup of plausibility in which every high end escort you have seen has suddenly (temporarily) lost her ability to captivate and arouse desire in her male client for the evening (repeatedly, for those you see again)

or

B) subconsciously, you used several different approaches that all worked against your interest in playing the role of *extremely desireable partner*

For instance;
-in carrying on a conversation, you may have given the impression that it would be inappropriate to interrupt you because you seem to have a lot to get off of your chest, so she does not interrupt to kiss you.
-If you comment on her attire or lingerie, or do not remain engaged while taking off your own clothing.. (perhaps there is a point at which she is still mostly dressed while you are nearly nude that she thinks you might not know how to get her clasps undone, and chooses to undress for you)

... since there is nothing you can do about it if the problem is on their side, you might as well choose to believe that the only thing standing between the lusty encounter you want and the reciprocal interaction you know now.. is yourself, and then work on changing to suit your wants
I know it's easy for you top dismiss it as "him" but quite honestly he has a good point.

Over the years I have yet to find very many escorts who have a single freakin clue on what to do when it actually comes to seducing a man.

And yes I let my wishes be well known in advance and yes the answer is always "of course baby"...

But the delivery is.... usually very disappointing.

Not many women are skilled in the art of seduction. I've met a few over the years - but only a few - and the most notable one is sadly out of the business.
 

Alix Turner

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I know it's easy for you top dismiss it as "him" but quite honestly he has a good point.

Over the years I have yet to find very many escorts who have a single freakin clue on what to do when it actually comes to seducing a man.

And yes I let my wishes be well known in advance and yes the answer is always "of course baby"...

But the delivery is.... usually very disappointing.

Not many women are skilled in the art of seduction. I've met a few over the years - but only a few - and the most notable one is sadly out of the business.
admittedly, it was easier to believe he might be behaving in a way that causes him problems than that the overwhelming majority of the escorts he has met throughout the world (all but one or two) are completely inept in the seducing department.

... but, I mean, in my defense.. how many times do you have to hear "of course baby" in response to your request for a seductive, engaged companion, only to be let down, before you decide that you might as well try a new approach?
 

Dickson

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I would suggest mentioning that you would like just that , Dickson, your an attractive, sensitive, caring man with lots of wisdom a great sense of humor and a sexual appetite that would be fun to try and full fill not to mention ummm your package, I only say this because I have meet you HOWEVER reading your reviews I got the impression you like to take control ...


I think now that you have expressed more of what your looking for your next rendezvous will be even better :)

Good luck and happy pooning
VK
As I lay here at 1 AM in a dark hotel room in Munich I so appreciate your comment Dr Kelly. Just what the doctor ordered. I do tell them Dr Kelly but as chilli points out they all say they can and will but once I got them in the room and the cash has changed hands it is like well lets see how long they can stretch out the time. As Ms Turner put it maybe I am too impatient but they will talk all night if I let them. Maybe I talk too much as Ms Turner identified. Just for the record I keep repeating hoping that maybe once she is comfortable she will make a move.

I remember one night after taking Jenna for dinner and we walked back to the car I opened the door smelt her hair as she went to get in. I thought what a great moment for her to kiss me and make a move. Or driving back to the hotel with Laurie after a wonderful dinner up on Orange Hill. We stopped the car to watch the sunset over the ocean. I was hoping that She would lift up her skirt or lean over to kiss me. Or Rio after we had attended a Gala at the Lincoln Center and we had gone to the meatpacking district to a club and we were on the roof over looking the city and we headed back to hotel and in the limo she did not look at me or even hold my hand. We got back to the room I had so many hopes but nothing happened. I can picture us heading up stairs and nothing. I wanted her to want me so bad at that point.

Yes Ms Turner there have been times I have spent the whole hour just talking but no advances at all. So now i go for longer dates hoping that the lady will make an advance. I guess I have listening to too many pop songs like "here's my number so call me maybe". Even when I pay for it it does not happen. Even when I tell them it does not show up.

I guess over the years there must have been a few but to be honest I do not remember those moments even at the elimidate events. I just do not feel it. Maybe it is me I don't see it. Or I just can't see it.

Dr Kelly did you make any moves on me that night or was it all me? I remember moments with you but I do not remember much other than sitting on the couch downstairs and then going up stairs. I do remeber ripping your nightee off and hw your breasts flowed out and how wet your mouth felt around my massive cock that night. Oh how you made me throb that night. We really did not get much sleep if I recall.

But I do not remember being suduced.

Yea the world famous of course baby anything you want. Oh baby oh baby. But I want to be wanted or seduced. Or is my idea of seduction just screwed up.
 

vanessa kelly

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Dr Kelly did you make any moves on me that night or was it all me? I remember moments with you but I do not remember much other than sitting on the couch downstairs and then going up stairs. I do remeber ripping your nightee off and hw your breasts flowed out and how wet your mouth felt around my massive cock that night. Oh how you made me throb that night. We really did not get much sleep if I recall.

But I do not remember being suduced.
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Seducing takes two people for it to start fireworks, when we were sitting on the couch I attempted a couple times to rub your thigh and we kissed I figure that is the start of seduction, when you continue talking about your travels which by the way is very interesting, I assumed that you would rather chat for a bit , I unzipped and proceeded to take your pants down in the living room and place your manhood in my mouth at which time we decided to dart off upstairs to the bedroom :clap2: Ah yes I do remember you ripping my beautiful nightie which you said you would replace...lol... and Yup I think we might of driffted for an hour or so...


Thank you again or the gift I thought of you when I applied it ...mmm I love smelling great :)

Vanessa Kelly
 

Elmore

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Maybe you need to lower your expectations Dickson. Sometimes you have to call it what it is.

Escorts are paid companions and even the best actresses in the industry can't feign certain elements of relationships such as spontaneity and seduction that occur when the person wants you there for reasons other than financial gain.
 

Dgodus

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To be fair all around. Seduction isn't simply making the first move. Seduction really is taking someone who isn't in the mood and getting them there. Really getting the engine revving so to speak. Most escorts are dealing with guys who already have their engine running when they show up, so they really dont need to know how to seduce someone. Dare I say Dickson what you're looking for (from you last post anyways) is almost something romantic - and that's asking alot. Al be it the really high end escorts (or so call courtesans) really should be able to provide that.

And yes, as has been said. Unless something is going to make a woman uncomfortable she's going to say "yes I can do that" even if she cant, I mean who would turn down money? Also, it does take two to tango so to speak. I can understand wanting someone else to make the moves, but if you aren't at least giving off signals, or reacting to smaller advances (making subtle ones of your own even) then no, seduction isn't going to happen.
 

billa69

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Maybe you need to lower your expectations Dickson. Sometimes you have to call it what it is.

Escorts are paid companions and even the best actresses in the industry can't feign certain elements of relationships such as spontaneity and seduction that occur when the person wants you there for reasons other than financial gain.
Could not have phrased it better!
 

87112

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Russian and Germans SP, you should be thanking you lucky stars you get to tap that, its all rice and noodles here.
 

Dickson

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Seducing takes two people for it to start fireworks, when we were sitting on the couch I attempted a couple times to rub your thigh and we kissed I figure that is the start of seduction, when you continue talking about your travels which by the way is very interesting, I assumed that you would rather chat for a bit , I unzipped and proceeded to take your pants down in the living room and place your manhood in my mouth at which time we decided to dart off upstairs to the bedroom :clap2: Ah yes I do remember you ripping my beautiful nightie which you said you would replace...lol... and Yup I think we might of driffted for an hour or so...


Thank you again or the gift I thought of you when I applied it ...mmm I love smelling great :)

Vanessa Kelly
Dr Kelly you always smell nice to me. I guess it was the darting part that distracted me. The thought of me in your mouth makes me want to get on a flight back to you. Or get you on a flight to me. I hope you will give me the opportunity to replace your nightie. You are a very special women.
 

Dickson

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Could not have phrased it better!
Yea guys but that is what I am paying for and yes the SP says she can provide it. Yet it just is not there.

Ddodus does make a good point. I do pay the dollars for the romance and maybe I am asking too much. Oh well doomed to failure. But it is so much funny looking for the holly grail
 

Dickson

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Russian and Germans SP, you should be thanking you lucky stars you get to tap that, its all rice and noodles here.
honda761 becareful for what you wish for. Vancouver is one of my favorite playgrounds. Why because the SPs are really nice and treat us guys very well. There are a lot of great SPs in Vancouver. I would put them up against any ladies around the globe. Just look at the responses on the board. Much better than lets say TERB. You find exeptions everywhere but Vancouver generally is my fav. for a reason.
 
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