Bullshit. Utter bullshit... this last generation of kids has been coddled, their parents can't touch them, and the kids know this. They are spoiled rotten, they are rude and abusive, and only think of themselves. I say bring back the strap - it helped keep us in line back in the day....
WTF is wrong with today's society? Bullying from kids to a grandmother!
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Parents refuse to take responsibility and ownership of their children's poor behaviour. Net result is these punks can say and do as they please without fear of any recourse from any authoritative person. That's the crux of what our Politically Correct Society is raising. Police can't deal with them, neither can their schools and they get a free ride at home from their parents. Might as well call it what it is - Sociopaths.
There once was a group of young teens who used to destroy property, break into houses and cars, egg houses, assault young females and were just general assholes a number of years back. A couple of families called the police for them to intervene on their behalf and it made the problem worse. Much Worse!
Then there was a group of 'concerned' individuals waited for them on a pathway late at night. Let's just say there wasn't any more problems and this group of punks walked a long way around so they were not seen in the neighbourhood. That's my kind of Block Watch.
There once was a group of young teens who used to destroy property, break into houses and cars, egg houses, assault young females and were just general assholes a number of years back. A couple of families called the police for them to intervene on their behalf and it made the problem worse. Much Worse!
Then there was a group of 'concerned' individuals waited for them on a pathway late at night. Let's just say there wasn't any more problems and this group of punks walked a long way around so they were not seen in the neighbourhood. That's my kind of Block Watch.
Texas teacher fired for having her class teach a bully a lesson......... Not necessarily agreeing with what the teacher did but it seems impossible to discipline children anymore.
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So, threatening to disembowel this elderly woman is all right because they are "just kids", but someone else threatening them should do time.
No wonder those kids behave that way - they know they can get away with anything, including ultra violence and usually there are no consequences.
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Larry Storch
This goes beyond the strap in school. I agree with badbadboy that being PC isn't solving any problems only creating more. Kids are not stupid, they have access to WAY more info now and the whole system seems designed to avoiding punishment. I personally know people whose kids were constantly in trouble, ended up in juvenile detention with curfews etc. Did nothing to solve the problem, but strangely enough after their 18 birthday things changed. Obviously they knew the consequences would be different now that they were considered adults. I'm so glad I decided not to have kids. They seem to be the ones running the families these days.
holy hell if I heard this coming from my kids they would get an ass kicking so hard they would regret ever thinking of saying such shit. this is exactly where parents need to step up and put their kids in line. who gives a shit about what anyone says what you can or cant do to your kids.... Im responsible for them, I will damn make sure they know what they did wrong. they get embarassed in public? boo hoo, dont do it again then! what those kids did is UNACCEPTABLE on all levels. no discipline and no fear of discipline is why these kids act this way. no violence does not always solve things, but those kids need a can of whoop ass, maybe if they understood what pain actually is. My parents always taught me, dont do anything unless you can accept the consequences. if you challenge a dude to a fight, you better be ready to get your ass kicked and no whining about it if you do. I tell people to take a hike when they say ohh no you cant do that to your kids.... screw off!
Why are kids acting this way?
Blame the school teachers, blame the educators.
Today's families pretty much require both parents to be working, that leaves the job of educating the young to the teachers.
But today's teachers no longer believe in teaching reading and writing, instead they are teaching self-esteem. That means the firing of the Edmonton teacher who gave Zeroes for kids who decided not to take exams or hand in assignments. That means that no matter how lousy the kid is academically, he is told what a great person he is. That means he's not learned how to handle stress because he's never had to endure it before he was rewarded with praise, and when you can't handle a bit of stress, you're going to easily become the victim of a playground bully - that's why kids are so narcissistically sensitive - and that's why the phenomenon of bullying suddenly exists today but did not 20 years ago - paradoxically today we've created victims AND bullies together (as opposed to bullies creating victims).
The educators have also taken to teaching kids critical thinking. That would be great if they had a good foundation of base education first, but without it all the kid is learning is how to prevent oneself from learning - by questioning all authority, even authority that they should trust. That's why they have no respect for elders, aside from the trumped-up egos they've developed when they learned about self-esteem without earning it.
And kids are not the only ones who the educators have ruined, they've ruined the parents too. Why? Because parents are learning about society from their kids. That's why my friends with kids say to me, in a surrendering tone, "my teenager doesn't know what he wants to do when he finishes grade 12, he wants to go to Europe - to find himself, before he figures out what college to go to.... he thinks its very important to know himself before he undertakes further studies, I guess I agree, it's the right thing to do isn't it?" Feeling as though he has no choice, the parent allows the youngster to stay at home until well into his 20's, without a job or with some menial job where he is paying off a big car loan or a new set of 20 inch wheels.
But you see, the kid spent his whole school life finding himself - now he needs a few more extra years to find himself on a vacation in Europe.
That's why the grade 12 graduation parties get more and more outrageous and opulent, and why now middle grade school kids are now having big grad ceremonies too. What did they achieve? That doesn't matter. They want to feel good about themselves, it's all about their own sense of self-worth - based on nothing.
The old way was the right way. We developed self-worth from accomplishments. We were awarded with self-esteem when we achieved something. We regarded ourselves as better than others, when we were able to do better than others, in the empathetic ways of fair competition. We learned how to deal with stress - yes there were bullies, but because we knew how to deal with stressful situations, the bullies were not much of a bother we couldn't handle it ourselves - we didn't need mental counsellors because some idiot insulted us, we weren't oversensitive or EMO, and bullying was not a phenomenon that involved parents and teachers and the community.
Educators today would let us believe they are producing better citizens. Better than the people who graduated from high school 20 or more years ago? I don't think so at all.
Blame the school teachers, blame the educators.
Today's families pretty much require both parents to be working, that leaves the job of educating the young to the teachers.
But today's teachers no longer believe in teaching reading and writing, instead they are teaching self-esteem. That means the firing of the Edmonton teacher who gave Zeroes for kids who decided not to take exams or hand in assignments. That means that no matter how lousy the kid is academically, he is told what a great person he is. That means he's not learned how to handle stress because he's never had to endure it before he was rewarded with praise, and when you can't handle a bit of stress, you're going to easily become the victim of a playground bully - that's why kids are so narcissistically sensitive - and that's why the phenomenon of bullying suddenly exists today but did not 20 years ago - paradoxically today we've created victims AND bullies together (as opposed to bullies creating victims).
The educators have also taken to teaching kids critical thinking. That would be great if they had a good foundation of base education first, but without it all the kid is learning is how to prevent oneself from learning - by questioning all authority, even authority that they should trust. That's why they have no respect for elders, aside from the trumped-up egos they've developed when they learned about self-esteem without earning it.
And kids are not the only ones who the educators have ruined, they've ruined the parents too. Why? Because parents are learning about society from their kids. That's why my friends with kids say to me, in a surrendering tone, "my teenager doesn't know what he wants to do when he finishes grade 12, he wants to go to Europe - to find himself, before he figures out what college to go to.... he thinks its very important to know himself before he undertakes further studies, I guess I agree, it's the right thing to do isn't it?" Feeling as though he has no choice, the parent allows the youngster to stay at home until well into his 20's, without a job or with some menial job where he is paying off a big car loan or a new set of 20 inch wheels.
But you see, the kid spent his whole school life finding himself - now he needs a few more extra years to find himself on a vacation in Europe.
That's why the grade 12 graduation parties get more and more outrageous and opulent, and why now middle grade school kids are now having big grad ceremonies too. What did they achieve? That doesn't matter. They want to feel good about themselves, it's all about their own sense of self-worth - based on nothing.
The old way was the right way. We developed self-worth from accomplishments. We were awarded with self-esteem when we achieved something. We regarded ourselves as better than others, when we were able to do better than others, in the empathetic ways of fair competition. We learned how to deal with stress - yes there were bullies, but because we knew how to deal with stressful situations, the bullies were not much of a bother we couldn't handle it ourselves - we didn't need mental counsellors because some idiot insulted us, we weren't oversensitive or EMO, and bullying was not a phenomenon that involved parents and teachers and the community.
Educators today would let us believe they are producing better citizens. Better than the people who graduated from high school 20 or more years ago? I don't think so at all.
I agree with the statement you made 90%. the idea is right. however, it does not absolve any responsibility from the parents what so ever. yeah todays society requires both parents to be working, however you chose to have kids, you are responsible for those kids. you be the example. you work hard and you come home to enjoy and be involved with your family. yes its tiring but its your duty and when you fulfill those duties with love, care and discipline, your kids will notice and respect that. YOU need to talk to your kids and say hey what you see in the news isnt right, what you heard on the bus was wrong etc. you dont have to be a tyrant, but you need to stand your ground and let them know you will not budge and there will be consequences otherwise. my teachers taught self esteem blah blah. my parents had none of that. you want to graduate you study, you want a high paying job you work your ass off and earn it etc. nothing in life is handed to you and its your job (not just the teachers) to teach this to your kids. thats what is missing.
When they've been taught all through school that their self-esteem is important above all else (even learning), and they've been taught "critical thinking" before they've learned anything substantial (to criticize from a place of knowledge) - they'll never respect authority, and they're likely to see punishment as victimization and view the punisher (the authorities) as nothing but a big bully.
It's not only punishment they need, they have to unlearn all the B.S. they were taught in school all those years.
Critical thinking isn't substantial? Are you high?
I think you mean they'll never lick boots.
Read what I said again, I said "critical thinking BEFORE they've learned anything substantial". That doesn't make critical thinking not substantial. It just means other substantial things haven't been learned yet.
