Two questions about massage establishments

[dr_umm]

I'm looking for a massage establishment that offers a hand release as an addition to a massage, and I'm pretty confused.

According to an Urban Dictionary, "full body massage" basically means massage + happy ending, but I'm sure this is not the case here in Kelowna (there are spas in major hotel chains, that advertise "full body treatments" and "full body massage" on their web sites, I'm pretty sure there is no happy ending there.

As far as I understand, there is no chance of "extras" in establishments that:

• Have RMTs
• With "Therapeutic" in their title
• Advertise nail polish and similar services

Question #1
Is this correct? Are there any other definite signs that I shouldn't expect anything beyond a therapeutic massage?


Question #2
How can I ask on phone if there are any extras available? I don't want to be explicit, of course, but I also don't want to be too vague...

 

[vancity_cowboy]

due to the unregulated nature of the 'extras' part of the industry, you will get as many different answers to question #1 as there are establishments

regarding question #2, if you don't want to be explicit, you just aren't going to find out. why don't you want to be explicit? if they offer it, you've found your place. if they don't, the worst thing that will happen is they will slam the phone down in your ear. it's not like you have to worry about being recognized while going to them to get your nails done

if you're worried about your phone number being recognized, get a 7-11 Speakout plan untraceable mobile phone

 

[dr_umm]

I don't want to be explicit, because from my past experience, asking "do you offer a happy ending" will always get you a firm "No!", even if girls do offer it (maybe it's because of licensing issues, maybe it's because they want to be discrete in case someone's significant other calls, I don't know). I'm talking about a real massage establishment of course, one with a table, masseuse, etc.

 

[vancity_cowboy]

I don't want to be explicit, because from my past experience, asking "do you offer a happy ending" will always get you a firm "No!", even if girls do offer it.

sorry, i got the impression from your op that you had never found a place that offered happy endings, so how would you know what you just said?

and surely even a mp receptionist could tell the difference between a pooner and a significant other?

 

[bcneil]

I'm looking for a massage establishment that offers a hand release as an addition to a massage, and I'm pretty confused.

According to an Urban Dictionary, "full body massage" basically means massage + happy ending, but I'm sure this is not the case here in Kelowna (there are spas in major hotel chains, that advertise "full body treatments" and "full body massage" on their web sites, I'm pretty sure there is no happy ending there.

As far as I understand, there is no chance of "extras" in establishments that:

• Have RMTs
• With "Therapeutic" in their title
• Advertise nail polish and similar services

Question #1
Is this correct? Are there any other definite signs that I shouldn't expect anything beyond a therapeutic massage?


Question #2
How can I ask on phone if there are any extras available? I don't want to be explicit, of course, but I also don't want to be too vague...

RMT would be a sign that they dont.
Otherwise you never know. I know a nice lady that advertises ear candleing and she does.
Also know some ladies that write in their ad NON SEXUAL, and start the finish without even asking.

 

[dr_umm]

RMT would be a sign that they dont.
Otherwise you never know. I know a nice lady that advertises ear candleing and she does.
Also know some ladies that write in their ad NON SEXUAL, and start the finish without even asking.

Thanks bcnail, at least I know now that I'm not missing some secret password or keyword...

 

[tantalizeme]

Kelowna sounds a bit like an erotic backwater

I'm looking for a massage establishment that offers a hand release as an addition to a massage, and I'm pretty confused.

As far as I understand, there is no chance of "extras" in establishments that:

• Have RMTs
• With "Therapeutic" in their title
• Advertise nail polish and similar services

Question #1
Is this correct? Are there any other definite signs that I shouldn't expect anything beyond a therapeutic massage?


Question #2
How can I ask on phone if there are any extras available? I don't want to be explicit, of course, but I also don't want to be too vague...

Hey brother,

Erotic massage choices are probably 5000% better in Vancouver than Kelowna—though you have one real asset there: Ms Sarah.

1. Places with registered massage therapists are a pretty hopeless bet for happy endings, as they would lose their licence if erotic services are reported to the College of Massage Therapists of British Columbia. http://www.cmtbc.bc.ca/Home.aspx In large part this is because employee's Extended Health plans generally reimburse a large portion of the cost of RMTs, and insurance companies don't want guys' incentive of seeking out erotic services to cut into their profits.

2. As for the word "therapeutic" in ads or on doors, that means very little. Some "therapeutic massage" places I frequent even post signs in every room saying "Strictly no sexual services" or something to that effect—but that's usually just window-dressing, in case cops show up. The masseuses are often only too happy to supplement their meagre income by doing HJs. In the remote eventuality that there's a raid by the cops, the owner of the establishment can wash his/her hands and simply say the masseuse violated posted company policy.

3. As for nail polish shops or hair salons that also advertise massage—if they're staffed by Asian ladies—you better believe that most love the extra money that comes from HJs, especially when business is slow (as it usually is).

My advice: never ask about extras over the phone, because these ladies are paranoid about a possible sting operation by cops. You just go there and make sure you lie on the massage table stark naked. If they make you put your underpants back on, well, you have your answer.

You could say, "Wow," get dressed and walk right then and there, and not pay a cent.

But if they allow you to stay naked, about half an hour into the massage you ask calmly: "How much is a happy ending?" or "How much is a hand job?"

You usually get one of 2 replies: "How much you pay?" (in which case you offer the going rate of $40) or "Sorry, we don't do that here" (in which case you say, "Oh, that's okay"—and don't patronize them ever again).

Hope this helps clarify matters.

 

[raisinbran]

I can't comment on Kelowna directly. However, I've noticed that RMT's are much more willing to offer happy endings when they're working out of their own home. I assume that this makes it pretty difficult for anyone to get them in trouble. I've been offered a receipt after my HJ, but only when I was at the RMT's home.

There are often people who claim to have received happy endings at legit spas. Not me. Nobody ever sas where this magic has happened. One strategy (supposedly successful) is to ask to skip the drape (top sheet). Being totally naked for a legit massage is completely normal. But much of the RMT training goes into techniques to keep you draped, so that only the part being massaged is exposed. Supposedly asking to have no drape is more innocuous than overtly asking for a happy ending. She can say no, at which point you get to enjoy a plain vanilla massage. The story is that RMT's who agree to using no drape aren't offended if you ask for help with your erection after you turn onto your back, and they might agree to that too. I haven't tried this, so let me know how it works for you.

Another way to go is to find a non-RMT masseuse, at a spa or beauty salon. They haven't signed a code of ethics that defines "inappropriate" contact. So they might be game.

I'm going to travelling to Kelowna, so feel free to PM me if you find someone!

 

[Hoops]

Thanks for this intel. Who woulda thought.
Speaking of intel: how many scoops of raisins are in a box of raisinbran.
I hear two but I am not in the know like you.

 

[Dave in Phoenix]

The key at least in Ontario where I have more recent expereince (but same law) you don't pay for any extra's. It is just assumed but not discussed at most "adult body rubs". My favorite is the nude-reverse adult body rubs "blessed" in Mississauga by the very aged nice liberal Mayor.

A few years ago more conservative Brampton passed a bylaw to outlaw nude gal massager. It was struck down by the Ontario Superior Court since nudity did not violate criminal law etc and bylaw can not outlaw basically override Canadian Criminal Code.

For years..decades? .. may still. The Winnipeg Police Dept even said that inside a closed massage room was not a public place so no solicitation legal issue.

There have always been the tug of war between city bylaws (licensing) and criminal law. For example the Toronto Strip Club bylaw restricts contact but its never been enforced since it would most certainly be overturned if challenged especially after the Montreal strip club Supreme Court ruling that full contact nude does not make a strip club a bawdy house. But BC has ABC more restrictive bylaw that probably can be enforced when you introduce liquor. But no such ABC bylaw in Ontario or Quebec.

As pointed out RMT's are forbidden to be sexual.

 

[deathreborn]

wish someone would challenge diane watts and her stupid bylaws.