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It is not the duty of the SCOTUS to determine if a piece of legislation is "rational" or not. The relevant question is of constitutionality. Kindly show me the section that permits this kind of expansion of the powers of the federal government and infringement on individual liberty. The first part of your last sentence is correct, but I would suggest that there are a great many (mostly Republicans) in the US who would very much like to open that particular can of worms.

PeaceGuy said:
Yep. The Obama-care personal mandates requiring people without employer paid healthcare to get their own was originally a Republican idea: how to eliminate the free riders (uninsured folks using the emergency room for health care, driving up the premiums of insured people) without going to a Canadian style single payer system (the preferred solution of the Democrats at the time). But once a Democrat adopts a policy developed by the Republicans, It is of course the wrong idea and must be stopped.

As for where the Supreme court will come down on it, it will likely pass muster in some form. The idea of personal mandates is almost sure to pass because the argument against it is irrational. The claim that a person should not be forced to participate in the market is a red herring. The market is healthcare & everyone participates in it at some point in their life. The personal mandates are a means of regulating that health care market which is entirely constitutional. To kill Obama care on that principal opens a lot of existing regulatory power of the government to being unconstitutional as well, which is a can of worms that neither the Republican nor Democrat justices are going to want to open up.
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Obama's ratings rises up again to 51%. Highest since Bin Laden's death. Nothing do to do foreign relations and the American economy but the rise is attributed to Romney, Santorum, and NEWT. :pound:
 
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The Dow and S&P post best first quarter since 1998. :clap2:

The GOP's response = We need another look at Obama's birth certificate. :pound:
 
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The IRS recently announced amnesty for Americans with hidden offshore accounts from Switzerland to the Cayman Islands. From what I remember, this is the 3rd chance they're giving with NO deadlines.

Time for Romney to make the move. :pound:
 
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Devo said:
Obama knows that his vastly unpopular health bill we be defeated by the Supreme court. So instead of accepting the decision he attempts to intimidate the Supreme Court. Obama will need a miracle to be re elected this fall. President Romney is beginning to be a foregone conclusion.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...bama-over-warning-to-unelected-supreme-court/
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Where is Devo these days. He is not much a prophet.

Obama barely escaped with his healthcare plan in tact...but he did.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-...are-overhaul-upheld-by-u-s-supreme-court.html
 
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Never been so proud of the bipartisanship of the Supreme Court of the United States for ruling on the basis of law and not politics. :nod:

30 Million Americans not covered by healthcare will benefit from this. Less medical tourism trips to Malaysia, South Korea, Mexico or even Cuba.

Romney said that if he becomes President, first thing he will do is to repeal Obamacare.

Maybe in 2020 :pound:
 
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