You are obviously more interested in picking a fight with me than having a civil debate.
The fight already began some threads ago, as I can't have a 'civil' debate with you as you ignore questions put to you to clarify what you're saying, and continue to spout without ever addressing the other members questions, instead you post replies like the one I quoted, which just inflames rather than continues the conversation in a purposeful direction....
It would have started much more civilized if the 'debates' you started in other threads if the condenscending tones and insults that is part of your posting flavour wasn't included, hence less people getting choked at you. If you are debating, or even just dicussing a point, you can be open minded to new facts or points of perspective without being an asshole to people who differ from your perspective. Your perspective is not the 'be all ends all' or the only truth that really matters. Other people feel the same, and feel that their opinions mean as much to them as yours does.
All in all, there is more to life than just one political, moral conservative perspective, or rather a more liberal view of the world. If you just live with one ideology without even accepting that there is more out there, that there is no real black and white when it comes to issues when solutions need to be implimented, problems dealt with accordingly. Unfortunately, we have a system that panders to confrontation, cronyism, and social division, when really both elected parties instead of worrying about the polls, who's leading, who's the best and brightest this week, the witch hunts to uncover somebody with their pants down....the games played while the city burns.
There is no direction, either in Ottawa or Victoria, no directions taken to improve life for everyone, not just the ones that are just like those who're in power. They are not here for the common good, is what I'm trying to say. This 'right wing vs left wing' is just a way to distract us from the issues that really need work, but instead of fixing problems, it's just a lot of finger pointing, dirty tricks and bullshit. No wonder the voter turnout amongst the younger is low. What the fuck is the point of voting if no matter who you vote for, it's going to be bad anyway....
It's really sad, when there's things needing attention and those in power are having photo ops saying, " Look at us, we're doing a great job" waving at the camera, while kids are not getting educated properly, parents are under a huge tax load, financial burden to even just put food on the table, get to work, pay the morgage, etc...both parents working too much to parent the kids...never mind single parent families, poor families, singles, youth who need direction to career paths and hope for the future...you get where I'm going. Most people see what's happening in gov't, they despair of what they see as a problem too big for them, as they feel their own lives are in turmoil...so they ignore the issues that affect them as they are just trying to get through daily life.....and the gov't just happily continues to spend and tax the shit out of everyone, etc.
Is this right?....hell no. Is this the way it is....unfortunately it is. Ugh, I fuckin started rambling again...damn it. Devo, you wanna fight, stir up shit. That's plain to see, but if it does inspire conversation, thought processes to the fact that all this are just symptoms or a larger problem that needs to be addressed. The system is sick, and it's not working for the regular joe anymore. Devo, really don't care where on the political fence you sit, but you must agree that there is something bad smelling up our legislatures, and it needs an enema. Enough of the bickering bullshit posturing, working for the next election rather than tackling what's really the issues. Stop wasting our money. It's not Ottawa's, not Victoria's money, not the Liberals, or Harper's....it's our money, our gold....we pay them, not the other way around. Fuck it all...don't give a shit of you're left or right, if the system is rotten, it fucks everyone.