a bad session

[sevenofnine]

A bad session
I have been with my sp for years and years. Every once in awhile I just get bored, wonder what I'm doing what I'm missing. I just don't feel the thrill anymore with her, so I see some one new.


I met this girl on arrangement seekers, she is young and to be fare not really a pro. Though she is learning fast.
I met her and she was a little bit drunk. Not a big deal but I was sober so, it just felt wrong. Then she gets way to personal in my mind she crossed the line with her very blunt personal questions.
Strange for me to say that considering how open I am. But there is a time and a place. And also a reason for asking very blunt personal questions. And in my mind, her reasons weren't valid.

Though I never argued with her and I answered every question she asked.
My sp that I seen for years, I have no secrets from her, I will answer any question she puts to me, but we have seen each other for years and built a level of trust and friendship, this women I have barely seen yet she gets right to it and asks the most blunt questions, which may or might not be out of line depending on where you stand, but then she asks questions about my wife as well.
My relationship with my wife for the most part is out of bounds.
She is not there to speak or defend herself, so it just feels wrong to go into it. All I have every said anywhere about my wife is were in a sexless marriage. And for me it ends there.

But this girl wanted to go into my marriage.
Seriously Im paying her to be with me. Leave my marriage out of it.
And she gets way to emotional about how she cares about me etc, etc, and likes me, blah blah.

The reason why she is with me, is Im paying her,

I have known my sp for years, and consider her a friend and close. Even though I honestly think we enjoy being together. The reason why she sees me is I pay her. She doesn't go on and on about how such a nice guy I am. She says she likes me, but that is the end of it.
She sees lots of other guys, as well as has full personal life. We do like each other but still
this is money for companionship, thats it. No money no companionship. Have a good day and see you around sometime.
But this girl goes way over the top.

The sex, wasn't even that good, she wanted to know who has the best pussy, thought she was so young and tight. Even though she was quite a bit younger then my mature sp, her body wasn't as nice. Thought she was just all that and more.

All and all it was just a bad experience,

Which makes me appreciate a good sp or companion even more.
A good sp should never make you feel awkward about personal questions,
your paying her, so in part you don't need to answer any personal questions,

A good sp shouldn't go on and on, about how much she misses you and enjoys your company.
We all know she is seeing you because your paying her.
She may like you and all of that, you may both really enjoy each others company.
But to be honest if an sp cares for a client more then just a client she should not accept his money.
You may both enjoy the time spent, but at the end of the day your together because of the exchange of money so lets not fool any one shall we.
A good sp, shouldn't degrade other sps, to make herself look better, or my wife for that matter,
I have seen a lot of different women different sps. Not one of them did I think, she had nothing to offer me. Every sp I have met has had something to offer,
Life is about managing time and resources. To get the most return.
I have to make a choice on who I see, one lady is not better then some one else.

My needs are such that one lady fills them better, or is less complicated then another,

Its funny but I think a lot of sps think this is about them.
Well I am the one paying the big bucks so it is about me.

When you see or have seen someone along time, it does become more mutual and perhaps the thrill is gone, or you need some time apart to appreciate each other. You take each other for granted.
Or maybe to just remind you, this is about the exchange of money.



Funny but I have been in this along time,
for me its been a personal journey not primary a sexual one. But I do pay for sex.

The sps I have seen the most, have taught me so much about myself.

And I am so flawed.
I am so flawed that I could cry but
fuck it I will just laugh, life is way to short.

The sp's I have seen have taught me so much about life.
I have paid money sure, but worth every penny.

Hard to explain, but,
the sp's I have seen one in particular has shown me how to live.

Its funny but sps aren't held very high esteem in our society.
Yeah I get it sex for money is not really the ideal way to go about getting laid or to treat women.

But these sps are women doing a job. Thats it.

Were all human with needs wants and desires and flaws.
The job you do doesn't make you any better or worse as a human being.

Its the kind of person you are.

 

[Pillowtalk]

Seriously........

You expected the girl that you met on arrangement seekers to provide you the same experience as an hourly escort.

I just had to laugh because I am not sure if you know, but those who seek a sugar daddy arrangement are typically seeking out something more personal than the hourly pay for play and leave.

I do admit that the girl may have asked far too personal of questions, but come on. You should have known it is a different style of experience.

That's what I was about to say.


7 of 9, you blame this sugarbaby looking for a sugardaddy for doing what she is supposed to do, and not being who she was not (an sp) She wasn't advertising as an sp looking for a client.

Why would you choose, of all things, to go to that place looking for a one time change up for your regular sp, and not simply use this site for example, and look for a professional?

But I do agree with much of your list about what makes a good sp good. :nod:

 

[LittleAsianGuy]

I prefer korean or japanese sp where i have no clue what they are saying. So there's very little commucation but just sex.

 

[InnocentBoy]

What always cracks me up are young (usually blondes) who think just because they are "young and tight" are the best lays out there. :eyebrows:

 

[myselftheother]

That's what I was about to say.


7 of 9, you blame this sugarbaby looking for a sugardaddy for doing what she is supposed to do, and not being who she was not (an sp) She wasn't advertising as an sp looking for a client.

Why would you choose, of all things, to go to that place looking for a one time change up for your regular sp, and not simply use this site for example, and look for a professional?

But I do agree with much of your list about what makes a good sp good. :nod:

I agree too. 7of9 you get what you pay for. You paid for a sugar baby relationship, not a session with your regular sp, no kidding that you're gonna have a different experience, then you bitch about it...well, duh! For a guy your age, which I am assuming to be older, you seem to be naive about these things. I do appreciate your honest cander, but you are shooting yourself in the foot when you put expectations on your new adventures.

From what I get from your posts, you're really looking for some sort of a connection that you can control, only on your terms, convenience....as it ought to be in your pooning life. You just took expectations of one sort of situation and tried to apply the same to another kind of situation, and of course to you it went wrong...felt that it was off. Too bad, might have been an interesting and diverting experience, but for you it was terrible and from what it seems traumatic....have an open mind, you'll have more fun.

 

[blackcad]

But to be honest if an sp cares for a client more then just a client she should not accept his money.

I disagree....just because an escort likes her client "more than just a client" does not mean she should not accept his money. If she/he is not at a point in their life where a relationship would be practical..why not continue the escort/client relationship. If she is willing to have sex for free but maintain no-strings then she could do that as well....but then the relationship becomes a fuck-buddy type rather than escort/client.....and this probably can't be sustained without either a break-up, or escalation to a full relationship. The fact that she likes the client "more than just a client" should improve their healthy escort/client relationship...what's wrong with that. Maybe some ladies would disagree with me here but....I can say one thing from experience....this type of relationship has a lot of staying power.....because there are unrequited feelings and things left unsaid.....that's part of the magic of a real relationship (the part before it gets boring).

 

[sevenofnine]

its interesting to me,
that i have a bad session, and its my fault to high expectations, etc, looking for something different in the wrong place,
being a sugar daddy is not the right experiance for me. etc, etc,
to inexperianced etc, etc,


just curious why wasn't what i said taken at face value

like she was drunk when i met her,
she was blunt and way to personal wanted to involve my wife,
when i consider my relationship with my wife out of bounds dished the sp i regularlly saw.

found her way to needy and over the top on how such a great guy i was, like she was guilting me into seeing her.
and the sex was just ok nothing great.


i think a great sp has two qualities,
one a hassle free experiance beginning to end.
she flunked in this,

next good to great sex,
she was only average, and i would give her a failing grade because she kept interrupting to tell me how great her pussy was, and asking me wasn't it the tightest sweetest pussy i had every experianced and why would i go back to an old pussy


just curious does that sound like a great session

and as far as money is concerned, i think you can be really close an care about an sp and still pay her.
but if your serious about love or romance or having a life together, money should not be involved.

 

[violetblake]

Vanesssa of the wise words again, I salute you.

On to the topic at hand. Arrangement seekers and sites of that ilk allow ladies to get paid for sex and cling to the allusion that they are not hookers, but "sugar babies" whatever the fuck that means. Like athletes in my view, the moment you take money for a service, you are no longer an amateur. An amateur is a lady who goes out, has a nice meal and a few bottles of wine and gets fucked, with no additional compensation, save for maybe a birthday gift or flowers etc. If someone pays for sex with you, you are a pro, a hooker, escort, courtesan, dress it up however you like. You take payment and get it on, you are a pro, PERIOD. I don't care if you are part-time, exclusive with one guy, blah blah blah, you are a pro. If you are good enough to get someone to pay for all that shit and not have sex with him, you are either a praying on an incredibly weak person or just very very lucky.

If someone is paying your rent in exchange for sex, you are a pro. If someone is giving you a monthly allowance, so they can have sex with you, you are a pro. I am not sure why some ladies cling to the myth that this is a negative thing. Be proud, someone feels that you are desirable enough to trade hard earned money to be with you sexually or otherwise. Get over yourselves, it's no big deal anymore for crying out loud. There should also be an end to the stigma around paying for it. Men are often trapped in sexless marriages, busy careers, socially retarded or otherwise unwilling or unable to spend the time and effort required to chase an amateur and put up with all the associated BS. There's nothing wrong with that. Some men even believe the old saying, I don't pay you for sex, I pay you to leave afterward. I am not sure I am that cynical, not yet anyway.

As someone who got married, had a a kid and then got a divorce, I can say without question that seeing a professional is far cheaper and in many ways, far more satisfying! Drop the stigma, and relax. Get laid.

Well said!

 

[lenny]

I have been with my sp for years and years. Every once in awhile I just get bored, wonder what I'm doing what I'm missing. I just don't feel the thrill anymore with her, so I see some one new.

That is natural. As it is said, variety is the spice of life. I have never found a SP i'd want
to be exclusive with, beyond about 2 evenings. Some guys even refuse to see a girl twice,
but i usually look for keepers, those i can see regularly, from time to time. That saves
on the need to constantly train new girls. But even when i have several regulars i still get
the itch at times for even more variety.

I met this girl on arrangement seekers, she is young and to be fare not really a pro. Though she is learning fast.
I met her and she was a little bit drunk. Not a big deal but I was sober so, it just felt wrong. Then she gets way to personal in my mind she crossed the line with her very blunt personal questions.
Strange for me to say that considering how open I am. But there is a time and a place. And also a reason for asking very blunt personal questions. And in my mind, her reasons weren't valid.

Though I never argued with her and I answered every question she asked.

Maybe she was encouraged to keep asking them because you kept answering. It could have
gone differently if you had said after the first question that was over the line that you
didn't feel comfortable discussing that subject.

 

[lenny]

she was only average, and i would give her a failing grade because she kept interrupting to tell me how great her pussy was, and asking me wasn't it the tightest sweetest pussy i had every experianced and why would i go back to an old pussy

LOL, that was funny. I'd have given her an F here and in several other subjects. While she kept
blabbing during sex i would have been thinking, 'Damn, woman, shut up! Where's the duct tape
when you need it?'

 

[johnjxxx]

Vanesssa of the wise words again, I salute you.

On to the topic at hand. Arrangement seekers and sites of that ilk allow ladies to get paid for sex and cling to the allusion that they are not hookers, but "sugar babies" whatever the fuck that means.

A two way street perhaps? ...clinging to illusions that they are not hookers, that is...

If you are good enough to get someone to pay for all that shit and not have sex with him, you are either a praying on an incredibly weak person or just very very lucky.

If someone is paying your rent in exchange for sex, you are a pro. If someone is giving you a monthly allowance, so they can have sex with you, you are a pro. I am not sure why some ladies cling to the myth that this is a negative thing. Be proud, someone feels that you are desirable enough to trade hard earned money to be with you sexually or otherwise. Get over yourselves, it's no big deal anymore for crying out loud. There should also be an end to the stigma around paying for it. Men are often trapped in sexless marriages, busy careers, socially retarded or otherwise unwilling or unable to spend the time and effort required to chase an amateur and put up with all the associated BS. There's nothing wrong with that.

Nope, nothing wrong with that.

Now how many daytime talk shows jiggling with escorts and sugarbabies is it going to take for the average wife in one of those marriages to wake the fuck up and realize they are also pros in some respects? (I get that kids complicate things). It's ok to kick a guy to the curb if he's not providing, but no such rule for the wives? Or how many high profile politicians have to get "outted"? Thankyou Elliot Spitzer. Thankyou Jack Layton (no disrespect intended), for the "shot" that was heard accross Canada!

Some men even believe the old saying, I don't pay you for sex, I pay you to leave afterward. I am not sure I am that cynical, not yet anyway.

But I don't want them to leave! They're so much cuter!

As someone who got married, had a a kid and then got a divorce, I can say without question that seeing a professional is far cheaper and in many ways, far more satisfying! Drop the stigma, and relax. Get laid.

In other words, fuck the pain away? Maybe if I keep at this long enough....

 

[Pillowtalk]

its interesting to me,
that i have a bad session, and its my fault to high expectations, etc, looking for something different in the wrong place,
being a sugar daddy is not the right experiance for me. etc, etc,
to inexperianced etc, etc,


just curious why wasn't what i said taken at face value

like she was drunk when i met her,
she was blunt and way to personal wanted to involve my wife,
when i consider my relationship with my wife out of bounds dished the sp i regularlly saw.

found her way to needy and over the top on how such a great guy i was, like she was guilting me into seeing her.
and the sex was just ok nothing great.


i think a great sp has two qualities,
one a hassle free experiance beginning to end.
she flunked in this,

next good to great sex,
she was only average, and i would give her a failing grade because she kept interrupting to tell me how great her pussy was, and asking me wasn't it the tightest sweetest pussy i had every experianced and why would i go back to an old pussy


just curious does that sound like a great session

and as far as money is concerned, i think you can be really close an care about an sp and still pay her.
but if your serious about love or romance or having a life together, money should not be involved.

I think we are taking it at face value. The point being stressed is that you are complaining that someone who is not an sp did not provide the things an sp provides, and did not behave the way an sp behaves, and further calling the encounter a "session", which I doubt also that she would have referred to it that way. As someone from a sugarbaby/daddy site, she was behaving quite reasonably, asking questions, providing personal info, trying to find out more about you and what you would be looking for in a long term SB relationship. You were expecting her to behave as an sp behaves, but she isn't one, and for some reason you want us to agree that is her fault lol.

 

[myselftheother]

I think we are taking it at face value. The point being stressed is that you are complaining that someone who is not an sp did not provide the things an sp provides, and did not behave the way an sp behaves, and further calling the encounter a "session", which I doubt also that she would have referred to it that way. As someone from a sugarbaby/daddy site, she was behaving quite reasonably, asking questions, providing personal info, trying to find out more about you and what you would be looking for in a long term SB relationship. You were expecting her to behave as an sp behaves, but she isn't one, and for some reason you want us to agree that is her fault lol.

Exactly my thought as well after reading that. Not her fault, sounds like she was trying to get you to loosen up, get in the mood, and enjoy it for what it was....a date. Not a session, but a date. She asked you about your wife, she wasn't saying 'hey let's call your wife and get her down here. She was just asking about your life, to find a common ground or something to relate to. Sounds like you're a cold fish, blame others for your failings and can't come to grips with infidelity....having a SB relationship is like having a lover or a fwb on the side, that you just happen to support financially...should all these distractions divert you from your problems? I feel you have to face some shit, and clear it up....before you fuck it up.