Why do SPs charge so much in BC?

[lenny]

Why do SPs charge so much in BC?

1. Because they are not in Thailand?
a. Where you can get BB sex with a very hot young female SP for $60.
b. How much would that cost in Vancouver, if you could even find it? 100X as much, outside of the lowtrack?

2. They do?
a. On the low track in Vancouver you can get the same as in 1a above. Although she will probably be an addict infected with HIV and/or other STDs.

 

[caffieneaddict]

Montreal escort
per hour - $200
x 24 clients per month = $4800

Vancouver escort
per hour - $350
x 24 clients per month = $8400

Difference = $3600

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OMG! I never had more than 3 clients in a week! I think you are grossly overestimating the AVERAGE number of clients independents have. Yes there are some that have 2-3 a day and work 3 days a week but these are full time girls. For most, especially if she's a student, your math is SO WRONG. The most I ever earned was about $5000. Average was around $3500 and of that I paid about $300/mo advertising, $1200/mo rent for the incall only, plus another $100 for the phone (back when plans were so expensive) and $100-$200 incidental costs like toiletries, new towels, beverages and snacks, etc etc. I spent about 20 hours a week directly working on my business. Good income for a student, yes, but all in all less than I earned previously and btw my clothing costs went up but I didn't include that above because I don't know how much I had to spend. Clients -- at least higher paying clients -- do not like to see you in the same dress nor the same bra & panties each time they see you. Also wardrobe gets damaged during appointments and can not be used indefinitely. Sure I could have put less hours into the business and made the same amount by having more clients at a lower price, but I didn't want to. I priced myself right where I needed to be to earn what I needed/wanted with as little clients as possible so that I had the mental energy to focus on my studies. As much as many of y'all think that escorting is easy work, being an indy is not because clients genuinely want a connection and that can be exhausting if you genuinely want to give them that experience.

 

[lawrence8]

My opinion is, independent SP has the flexibility on how many clients to see and how much to charge. Up to a point, her lifestyle choice will dictate if she needs to see more clients in a day and the market will equalibrium her rates.

If an SP chose to only see 3 clients in a week, obviously the take home income will be lower. The largest overhead cost is rental. She cannot charge an exhorbitant high rate as it will limit the number of clients. Avg $3500 per month for 3 days of work (maybe even less) per week is higher than the typical worker, considering the amount of tax the typical worker pay. However, for educated professionals, it is not uncommon to make $6000 per month or more after tax while only working an average 4 days a week.

The pooner ultimately decides who to see based on the service and affordability. For the type of work and the risk involve, I have great respect for SPs who provides great service and attitude. Now, I can't say the same for the pimp/papa/mamasan. Living off the girls who faces the brunt of the work rubs me the wrong way.

 

[Pirate Code]

I wonder what the percentage of providers making over 25,000 a month is? And how long do they make this income?

Here's my guess on what full-time providers make per month and the percentages that make it:

1,000 to 3,000 - 10%
3,000 to 5,000 - 30%
5,000 to 7,500 - 40%
7,500 to 10,000 - 15%
over 10,000 - 5%

I have many friends in the business and know that some of them will exaggerate their income in order to justify what they are doing for a living.

I would more than welcome the ladies correcting my figures if they think I'm wrong.

 

[SexyBoy]

I wonder what the percentage of providers making over 25,000 a month is? And how long do they make this income?

Here's my guess on what full-time providers make per month and the percentages that make it:

1,000 to 3,000 - 10%
3,000 to 5,000 - 30%
5,000 to 7,500 - 40%
7,500 to 10,000 - 15%
over 10,000 - 5%

I have many friends in the business and know that some of them will exaggerate their income in order to justify what they are doing for a living.

I would more than welcome the ladies correcting my figures if they think I'm wrong.

It might be a little bit higher but, not by much imo. The girl I know that made the most per month charged the least per hour.

 

[bcneil]

I wonder what the percentage of providers making over 25,000 a month is? And how long do they make this income?

Here's my guess on what full-time providers make per month and the percentages that make it:

1,000 to 3,000 - 10%
3,000 to 5,000 - 30%
5,000 to 7,500 - 40%
7,500 to 10,000 - 15%
over 10,000 - 5%

I have many friends in the business and know that some of them will exaggerate their income in order to justify what they are doing for a living.

I would more than welcome the ladies correcting my figures if they think I'm wrong.

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I guess it depends on what you mean by fulltime. As $1000 a month couldnt really be considered full time. As it wouldnt take that many hours a day. If you mean only source of income, then yeah. I bet there are even more in the $1000-3000 range.

Lots of pooners pull out the little calculators. See that the girl charges $250/hr, multiply it by 4 or 5 guys a day. 5-6 days a week, plus tips, no income taxes. Then come up with these extreme figures, $300,000 a year tax free.

 

[vancity_cowboy]

there are three kinds of lies:

lies

damned lies

statistics

-mark twain

 

[SexyBoy]

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I guess it depends on what you mean by fulltime. As $1000 a month couldnt really be considered full time. As it wouldnt take that many hours a day. If you mean only source of income, then yeah. I bet there are even more in the $1000-3000 range.

Lots of pooners pull out the little calculators. See that the girl charges $250/hr, multiply it by 4 or 5 guys a day. 5-6 days a week, plus tips, no income taxes. Then come up with these extreme figures, $300,000 a year tax free.

Don't forget

- Girls have periods.
- They can get sore
- The job can be emotionally taxing.
- Bad smelly clients can make them be choosy on who they see.
- Their rates can be too high for repeat customers.
- They might have a bf and that can hurt their income.

 

[SexyBoy]

How could I forget about all the stuff to keep a girl looking smexy!

I know one girl that spends a fortune on making herself look great. I think when she reaches 50 she is still going to look amazing because of it.

Outcall girls that travel with their clients make the most money hands down. Their expenses are a lot less and they get paid even when they are not having sex. These girls charge a lot less per hour around $60/hr sometimes even 30/hr.

For a 1 week vacation they make around 5-10k plus expenses paid for. Somehow word gets out and they are constantly traveling. Normally it is a SP that provided a great session and then gets the offer or makes the offer. This happens for me when I really click with someone. While you could get a girl to do it for free the money allows a guy to have sex when he wants. It also allows him to not feel guility.

SP's that have another job do extremely well also. They don't have to work much and see just the clients they want to see. I know some girls that don't want a relationship and would do it for free. However getting paid for it is even better. I know of at least two nurses that have done this.

 

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Some anecdotal data:

One of the popular weebly SPs back in the days of CL told me that although it varies (anywhere from 2 to 8 clients per day when working, but usually 3~5 per day), she made on average $10,000 per month.

I also saw an SP in the $250+/hr range who had 3 clients in a span of 6 hours (about half of her work day). However, that could just be her busy day, but, then again, it could just be a typical or even slow day.

In theory SPs with a higher hourly rate could definitely see fewer clients if they choose to; however, whether or not they actually do so is not knowable. IMHO, there is no downside to extra income if one can handle the extra workload while still maintaining the quality of work, actually enjoys the work, and still have enough time/energy left for oneself after work.

 

[wally*]

Hi everybody, SPs and pooners. Speaking of rates, it all depends. $300/hr for rich people is not an issue and they would never worry about it. However, it is very expensive for low income workers. from the SP perspective, it is up to her to charge whatever she likes as long as she is satisfied with what her financial goal is and is enjoying it at the same time. On the other hand, pooners are to decide whether or not they can afford and willing to go for it. Similarly, if you can afford to buy an expensive house you just do but if you can't you just don't and that's how life is, very simple. So, I am sorry pooners to say that but supply and demand along with financial abilities are the key factors in that hobby, it is either you can or cannot, period.

 

[SexyBoy]

Hi everybody, SPs and pooners. Speaking of rates, it all depends. $300/hr for rich people is not an issue and they would never worry about it. However, it is very expensive for low income workers. from the SP perspective, it is up to her to charge whatever she likes as long as she is satisfied with what her financial goal is and is enjoying it at the same time. On the other hand, pooners are to decide whether or not they can afford and willing to go for it. Similarly, if you can afford to buy an expensive house you just do but if you can't you just don't and that's how life is, very simple. So, I am sorry pooners to say that but supply and demand along with financial abilities are the key factors in that hobby, it is either you can or cannot, period.

Majority of rich people are cheap fyi. How do you think they got rich in the first place? Of course their are those that have the money just given to them. Those are the ones that do not care. Poor and rich people buy beer that is just the way life is

It really isn't the way you said it lol. A house can be a very good investment at times and something you want to spend money on. A sp is not a investment at all lol.

I have seen escorts change their prices all the time. This isn't a case of this is my price take it or leave it. I can tell you that I get a lot of discounts when a girl wants me to become a regular.

 

[wally*]

My friend SexyBoy, it would seem you didn't get my point. Regardless of whether or not the rich are cheap or the way they got their money or whether or not they care, what I am talking about is supply and demand besides your financial ability to to pay for it and that's where I gave the house as another example not as an investment LOL. Ok forget about the house if you don't get it and consider buying a piece of designer clothing for a few hundreds of dollars which is close to a SP rate for an hour and then if you cannot afford to buy it you will simply not. You can always negotiate prices about anything no doubt and get good deals sometimes but in the end there are those rates about specific high quality items or services which are always high relatively and not everybody can afford them. I am not saying that not everyone should enjoy life in all aspects but you know and everybody knows that life is expensive on some occasions. I will explain it to you mathematically so you can understand it better with a very simple example: assume you are a worker who makes about 1500 dollars a month out of which you have to pay your rent, your food, your phone and your transportation( the basics I mean), so how much are you left with? In this case would you be able to pay hundreds of dollars per session for many sessions so as to speak in one month( I say many because a real pooner does not do it only once a month)? The answer is NO and that's what I meant by you either can afford it or not. All of the above is true regardless of whether you are good or bad, nice or jerk, smart or naive, etc... Yes, SPs can change their rates often and this explains my point of supply and demand and of course regulars get specials to just some extent but this does not change the fact that someone with low income will always find it very expensive when it is about $300/hr or even a bit less. I hope you get it now.

 

[Decimus]

You are basically saying you don't think they are worth what they're asking. Secondly, as in my previous analogy, a normal person wouldn't go to a mechanic and negotiate his rate. The rate is what it is. If you aren't willing to pay it, move on.

Hell yes I would. And I do, successfully. I negotiate with ALL Trades, and you will find, they are ALL open to negotiation, the only stores that are not are chains, and even then alot will haggle, Ive successfully haggled with a future-shop managers, best buy sales men, a walmart manager and quite a few others in large chains.

The world was built on a barter system, and hell, it was THIS profession that started it 10,000 years ago, when some guy said "Ill give you 2 chickens and a goat if you sleep with me"

Haggling isnt about respect, and people who paint it that color are a little off in my opinion, haggling is just a way to save money, people who dont try and haggle are doing them selves a disservice, and not just when dealing with SP's.

 

[Pillowtalk]

Hell yes I would. And I do, successfully. I negotiate with ALL Trades, and you will find, they are ALL open to negotiation, the only stores that are not are chains, and even then alot will haggle, Ive successfully haggled with a future-shop managers, best buy sales men, a walmart manager and quite a few others in large chains.

The world was built on a barter system, and hell, it was THIS profession that started it 10,000 years ago, when some guy said "Ill give you 2 chickens and a goat if you sleep with me"

Haggling isnt about respect, and people who paint it that color are a little off in my opinion, haggling is just a way to save money, people who dont try and haggle are doing them selves a disservice, and not just when dealing with SP's.

If you are a bargain hunter, then just do your own homework and find the sps who charge the rates you are willing to pay, rather than insult them with a lowball offer that's less than what they quote you. If you are that pushy about rates, what else are you rude and aggressive about in an appointment, that's going to be what's running through their minds with anyone who starts off with gimme a discount demands.

Its ridiculous to think you can talk to someone who charges 80 for a half hour and try to low ball them even further just because you figure its ok to haggle or you try to bargain everything just to prove a point. It is ungentlemanly, and I wouldn't blame the sps who agree one time to refuse to see you a second time. Those are the ones who don't just hang up on you in the first place of course.

If you enjoy seeing sps, why limit your choices by being an ass about their rates.

 

[badbadboy]

Hell yes I would. And I do, successfully. I negotiate with ALL Trades, and you will find, they are ALL open to negotiation, the only stores that are not are chains, and even then alot will haggle, Ive successfully haggled with a future-shop managers, best buy sales men, a walmart manager and quite a few others in large chains.

The world was built on a barter system, and hell, it was THIS profession that started it 10,000 years ago, when some guy said "Ill give you 2 chickens and a goat if you sleep with me"

Haggling isnt about respect, and people who paint it that color are a little off in my opinion, haggling is just a way to save money, people who dont try and haggle are doing them selves a disservice, and not just when dealing with SP`s.

Your first post was June 28 of this year talking about seeking out your first SP.

Now you are saying you negotiate all SP rates just like you would haggle for trades, goods, commodities etc in a store.

So I gotta ask Mr 2 Posts - how`s it working out for you?

https://perb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?151860-First-time-suggestions-Fraser-valley&p=1168395&viewfull=1#post1168395

I suggest trying to be a lot more respectful of these ladies who provide a service in a professional manner.

 

[wally*]

I agree that SP's should charge what they want. If you think its too much don't go see them. If their rates are too high the majority will stop seeing them and they will either quit the biz or drop their rate to something more reasonable. Simple supply and demand. Look what happened in Alaska some time ago. All the pooners got together and refused to see any SP over a certain price. Rates came down quickly.

Having said that, I don't agree that higher rates means you will get a higher class SP. I have played at both ends of the spectrum, and almost every high priced escort I've visited was not worth the extra money.

I totally agree.

 

[wally*]

Hmmm ... although I do not have your suave way with words InTheBum, I can understand your politically incorrect statements.

Let's face it folks, you can go to Montreal & spend time with some of the most gorgeous & sexy women on the planet for $200 per hour.

What's the difference in living?

Sample:

Montreal
3 bedroom rental - $950.00

Vancouver
3 bedroom rental - $1700.00

Difference = $750 per month.

Montreal escort
per hour - $200
x 24 clients per month = $4800

Vancouver escort
per hour - $350
x 24 clients per month = $8400

Difference = $3600

Difference - $750 per month extra cost of housing =
$3600
-750
$2850

Hmmm ... I can understand the need to charge more, the SP's here can't even earn 37.3% more than those in Montreal!
They only earn 37.25% more

But then the truth is that the Vancouver SP's do not usually see as many clients as those in Montreal so the numbers would be more like below:

Vancouver escort
per hour - $350
x 15 clients per month = $5250

5250
-750
$4500

I guess it all balances out.

:eyebrows:

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I used to live in Montreal not so long back. You could find by far over average escorts at 120/hr and a lot of them. The second higher rate is 150/hr to 180/hr. There are also rates at 200/hr. So if I was to make the equivalent of 300/hr to 350/hr in Vancouver it would be 150/hr to 180/hr in Montreal, almost half the price. But again I repeat you could also find a lot of the above average escorts at 120/hr which is very encouraging for average income pooners to indulge in. Regarding the job market and what the difference would be is a different story I will not discuss now. My only point of the post is just to let you know about the difference in rates regardless of anything else.

 

[johnjxxx]

I'm curious how many girls actually pay taxes? (BTW where do you get a 3 bedroom in Vancouver, for $1700? not downtown anyway)

And if they're legitimately paying taxes, is there a way I can claim them as a dependent? They're almost young enough!
Or at least put them on payroll? Executive director of employee health and wellness :clap2:

Lot more bang for the buck that way if I'm paying with pre-tax dollars!

 

[87112]

Look at the stock market and the world economy and Vancouver economy. How the f do you guys up there keep balling in the money with mega mansion and 1 million dollar crack shacks. I swear its like going to fantasy island every time I go up there.