Yeah i would say this is equal to the fast cat fiasco, just a big waste of money, that got us nothing , but owing more money. Maybe they should have put that 1.6 billion in escrow( they should have known there was going to be backlash about this issue?) I guess they figured ramming it through so early into there mandate, that the people would just roll over & take it?
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despite the fact that i hate the foreign poser, van der zalm so much, i have to hand it over to the old thief - he single-handedly managed the campaign that brought about the referendum
a begrudging +1 to him :thumb: :doh:
a begrudging +1 to him :thumb: :doh:
Did you know the average IQ is 100? Which means an awful lot of people are in the two digit category.
For this reason alone, democracy can create a truly backwards society.
^ if they had campaigned on a properly thought out HST, then none of this would've happened. The current incarnation is little more than a shifty cash grab by politicians who seemingly only know how to spend on friends or out-of-province (using provincial money, of course) endeavours.
Also, nobody MADE the gov't waste all that money on trying to fight the anti-hst campaign... imagine the savings if they'd only matched what the anti-hst campaign spent. No, vanderzalm isn't responsible for the wasted money...the BC Liberals are.
They are an idealogically driven group that will intentially make poor financial decisions in order to support their "vision", or discredit their detractors or opponents (such as, the NDP). How people like that can be considered good for BC, good for the economy...and good for the average person, I don't know. I imagine, if we really delved into it, we'd find that their financial track record is worse than the NDP's (yes, and that is saying alot). They're just better at hiding it or redirecting blame.
These damn liberals have really pissed me off this time.... I'm not actually opposed to a well thought out, well balanced HST... but they've really royally screwed the pooch with this one. :|
Also, nobody MADE the gov't waste all that money on trying to fight the anti-hst campaign... imagine the savings if they'd only matched what the anti-hst campaign spent. No, vanderzalm isn't responsible for the wasted money...the BC Liberals are.
They are an idealogically driven group that will intentially make poor financial decisions in order to support their "vision", or discredit their detractors or opponents (such as, the NDP). How people like that can be considered good for BC, good for the economy...and good for the average person, I don't know. I imagine, if we really delved into it, we'd find that their financial track record is worse than the NDP's (yes, and that is saying alot). They're just better at hiding it or redirecting blame.
These damn liberals have really pissed me off this time.... I'm not actually opposed to a well thought out, well balanced HST... but they've really royally screwed the pooch with this one. :|
In todays world, 1.6 billion isn't all that much money, Thats not even half of what Jimmy Pattison's worth. weather its the feds or the province'it's still our money!' There the ones wasting it for us on getting re elected.
EXACTLY, the rich voted for it, because they want to get richer. Will they share any of that wealth??????
ound: The 1-2 % of the population that has the money wouldn't hesitate one second to screw us in the ass, & some how manage to get us too believe that this is what we really wanted!
ound: The 1-2 % of the population that has the money wouldn't hesitate one second to screw us in the ass, & some how manage to get us too believe that this is what we really wanted!And there you have one of the prime reasons the tax was defeated. Not because of what RC stated, but how he stated it.
The incredible, arrogance, condescending attitude towards anyone not thinking his way and the certain superiority towards those who would dare not buy into the fear mongering of the government. And, incredibly people like that still don't get there was an issue bigger than the tax and bigger than BC.
Wow! So do you think that only those of us with an iq over 100 should be allowed to vote?
I don't. I believe in our democratic ideals.
Sounds a little Hitlerish when you start saying that you have to have at least an iq of 100 to be able to vote?
I said no such thing and believe that democracy is the best system humans have come up with thusfar. It's just sad there are so many stupid people out there.Sounds a little Hitlerish when you start saying that you have to have at least an iq of 100 to be able to vote?
I would not have made the comment had it not been for the obvious fact that many, many of the 'yes' voters chose yes 'to send a message' to the Liberals. This reason is so incredibly foolish!
If, after careful research and consideration of all consequences of both sides, one chose to vote yes due precisely to their own situation, fine! But to do so, flippantly, in this punitive way is akin to cutting ones nose off to spite ones face.
I'll be bitterly laughing when I hear yes voters complain about losing jobs and government services they need due to the re-introduction of the PST/GST. I hope our idiot leaders figure out something quick. My family may lose our livelihood over this, and I'm not looking forward to the fallout.
A fallout that will cost us billions--- to do something that could easily be done at election time.
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I did not know that 46% of the voters (about 1.6 million in total) who took part in the referendum are considered "rich". I guess you learn something new everyday...EXACTLY, the rich voted for it, because they want to get richer. Will they share any of that wealth??????
Yeah but we sure did teach those damn politicians a lesson, I am pretty sure none of them will dare lie to us again.
I can't wait to see the next budget to find out what spending cuts we have in store.Well- they can start with slashing MLA salaries by 30%,Yeah but we sure did teach those damn politicians a lesson, I am pretty sure none of them will dare lie to us again.
Cabinet Ministers by another 25%,
All senior bureaucrats by 40%,
All government travel budgets by 50%,
MLA office budgets by 25%
All pensions of politicians eliminated - they can purchase RRSP's like a lot of us have to.
Slash BC Hydro and BC Ferry and all other Crown Corp board salaries by 50%.
Suspend all bonuses within Crown Corporations.
Suspend and review all subsidies to any industries with an eye to eliminating them. If a business can't operate without subsidies, let it fend for itself. It's not government's job to keep alive bad business models.
Freeze salaries across the board for all government employees - nurses, teachers, civic workers, etc.
There must be other places to cut before going to the threat of cutting medical, schooling or policing.
But I'll bet none of those cuts listed above will even be looked at, except for freezing salaries of the teachers and civic workers.
Agreed. It'll be stuff like funding for special needs children, the mentally ill, addiction recovery and the elderly that will be cut. In other words, the more vulnerable segments of our society will be the hardest hit.
Of course, the problem when you start to attack politician benefits and salaries, is you make it an even more unappealing job than it already is.
Yeah, because we're getting the best and brightest now.
Even though I think most politicians are scum, who are in it for whatever they can get - there would be no shortage of takers if there was no pay.
They want power, perks, connections and all the underhanded stuff that gets them the real money.
Yeah it is such a shitty job....making $100,00+ a year + a solid gold pension plan along with expense accounts + an adminastritive assistant who does 80% of your work for you....though I highly doubt an MLA ever breaks a sweat a or skins a knuckle in the course of a "days work".....not to mention the portion of their annual salary that is tax exempt.Not to mention the travel allowances as well as the accomodations they get in the provincial capital that are "needed" as they have to be able to attend the legislature but their electoral districts are on the other side of the province........yeah that is such a shitty job.
On the flip side of the coin it is the same in Alberta and every other province.......we need a grassroots movement to trim the fat that these hogs are stuffing themselves off at the trough.
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That may be true in some cases but these people also live under a pretty big microscope. Imagine trying to poon when you are a MP or MLA.
Not all jobs require you to break a sweat or skin a knuckle. Some people achieve higher learning so they don't have to do those things.
Not saying politicians are higher educated, but 'white collar' work doesn't require blood and sweat.
They don't have to - they're too busy screwing us.
They do all that stuff in other places - like Hawaii. And we never find out unless they get arrested for drunk driving. Even then it's covered up.
