Unlike Tugela, I have actually read a considerable amount about and by Einstein. It was at dinner parties and social events that he became far more animated in his discussions and passion for understanding how the world worked. He also enjoyed responding to challenges and even naive observations. He was particularly fond of challenging guests with thought experiments to reveal the research that he was studying. I would also invite Mona, one of Victoria's "smexiest" providers, as she shares a similar interest in theoretical physics and would add eye candy to the evening.
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I, also, have reade a biography of Einstein. I found it quite interesting that there was another physicist by the name of Rutherford (I think) who was also close to arriving at the same conclussion as Einstein. I wish I could find out more about him.
I just looked him up on Wikepedia. Ernest Rhutherford. Very interesting. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernest_Rutherford
The film Einstein and Eddington does a great job detailing how Eddington at the height of hostilities bewtween England and Germany took the politically incorrect route and tested part of Einsteins theory that proved Newton wrong. It is fascinating from both a scientific and political perspective. I think it was the knowledge network that did a show detailing the various physics and math work that contributed to Einsteins general theory of relativity. Interesting that many of the discoveries were done by women although they did not always get the level of credit deserved.
She apparently had a significant role. Here is the link to the dideo Einsteins Big Idea that traces the discoveries that shaped Einsteins views.
http://www.shoppbs.org/product/inde...kw=einstein&origkw=einstein&parentPage=search
http://www.shoppbs.org/product/inde...kw=einstein&origkw=einstein&parentPage=search
You don't understand how science works. Recognition comes for a body of contribution, not for a specific thing. Most laboratories, even back then, have a principal investigator who gets the credit. Under him/her there are a variety of students/post-docs/research associates/techs who do the actual work, and come up with much of the bits that go into a discovery. The PI does the big picture though and guides the work, so they are the ones who get the credit. The other people may get a mention, will probably appear in some publications, but largely their work will not be recognized. In the old days pretty much all the PIs were men, nowdays not so much but they are still the majority.
Its the same thing as where ever you work. If your department does well or succeeds, your boss is the one who gets credit, not you even though most of it was done by you. Unless you are the boss of course, then you get the credit.
I dont understand how science works, then I guess my PhD and time spent as a professor has been a waste of time. Pretty much everything you just stated is complete bullshit. Researchers work together and share credit, just have a look at any scientific journal.
It might help if you actually read the history of Einstein and his work rather than dreaming up bullshit that you are clearly clueless about.
It might help if you actually read the history of Einstein and his work rather than dreaming up bullshit that you are clearly clueless about.
Well, I have a Ph.D. as well, and I have yet to see anyone in a research team who was not the PI get credit beyond getting their name in a journal. Getting your name in a journal is not getting credit. Getting credit is when people talk about the work and use your name, getting credit is when you are invited to talk about the work, getting credit is when it is on your name on the prize/medal/whatever. I don't know how it works where you are, but in the real world it is the PI who gets those things. If you are in a research team and you want that sort of recognition then you need to become a PI as well and make your own way. But, as a member of someone else's group, you are not going to get public recognition.
Seriously?
Getting your name on papers is precisely the credit that gets rewarded in academia. I am not sure why you bother to continue to make mindless, idiotic comments about topics which you are clearly uninformed. I have been doing this for 25 years and have a pretty good idea how my work is credited. It is pretty well kmown in academia that the complexity of problems require multiple investigators and the contributions of each is readily apparent. The notion that only one person gets "credit" is simply not the case as experience has taught me.
Getting your name on papers is precisely the credit that gets rewarded in academia. I am not sure why you bother to continue to make mindless, idiotic comments about topics which you are clearly uninformed. I have been doing this for 25 years and have a pretty good idea how my work is credited. It is pretty well kmown in academia that the complexity of problems require multiple investigators and the contributions of each is readily apparent. The notion that only one person gets "credit" is simply not the case as experience has taught me.
Ya, well, I've been doing it for 30 years. Really? When people talk about a paper you published do they talk about "Joe Blo wrote a paper about that" (Joe Blo being the post doc or student that did the work and actually wrote the paper), or, do they talk about "Steverino wrote a paper about that"? Be truthful, because you know damned well what name they are going to use. The PI gets the credit, the other names are just there, they dont count.
You know, as inappropriate as it is.. I am reminded of a joke that goes something like "Arguing with people you meet on the internet is like competing in the special olympics... even if you win you're still retarded"
OH and I'd like to have dinner with Angelina Jolie or Paris Hilton.. someone like that. I know that a person can maintain a very lean figure through diet and excercise.. but I'd feel pretty comfortable betting money that Angelina and Paris probably have adopted some pretty entertaining methods of avoiding actually having to eat proper meals, and I'd like to watch
Tugela states that "The PI gets the credit, the other names are just there, they dont count." He further states that "getting credit is when it is your name on the prize/medal/whatever." If that were the case then the Nobel prize in physics would only go to a principal investigator because no one else gets any credit or is given the prize for the research. Here is a link to Nobel Prize winners in physics that clearly shows multiple people being credited for the specific research associated with winning the prize. http://nobelprizes.com/nobel/physics/, This is definitive proof that Tugela is wrong.
...``You know, as inappropriate as it is.. I am reminded of a joke that goes something like "Arguing with people you meet on the internet is like competing in the special olympics... even if you win you're still retarded"...``
-Alix Turner
BAHAHAHA!!
lol
definately innappropriate...(but too fuunny.)
-Alix Turner
BAHAHAHA!!
lol
definately innappropriate...(but too fuunny.)
I was fortunate enough to meet Jim Robson at a luncheon about 6 years back. He was a total class act and had tons of stories and not all of them about hockey. I would love to sit down with him again.
Since we can include dead people, I think Yogi Berra would be a hoot with all his jokes and double talk. Would make for an interesting evening.
Since we can include dead people, I think Yogi Berra would be a hoot with all his jokes and double talk. Would make for an interesting evening.
hang on... screw angelina and paris, if i can meet dead people I'd meet mitch hedberg for dinner in a heartbeat
ty Jessikaxxx, I love your laugh.
ty Jessikaxxx, I love your laugh.
