So much for ersbook...

[Pillowtalk]

True. I didn't realize that advertising on the site was free when I wrote that.
Seems strange that a site would protect advertisers who are using fake pics if they aren't paid advertisers though?!

I don't see it as "protecting" advertisers as much as I see it as not allowing abusive comments in anyone's ads. If you report the fake pics, or the ones who rip people off, that is a completely different issue. But as I say, it isn't like they can control the pictures posted in ads since they for one thing aren't checking every ad before allowing it to post.
And to that, one can only go back to this site as well, with at least one paid advertiser posting fake pics in the ad. She didn't get banned, fined and her pics weren't deleted by the site. In other words, it took someone reporting it to deal with the issue, not the site monitoring and policing the use of fake pics. And, at the same time, no one here is permitted to post comments into anyone's ads, good or bad. It is exactly the same thing on the other site, and should be exactly the sort of thing any advertising site does. It isn't, after all, a review site or a discussion forum, it is a place for ads.

What I find with some people on some sites figure that because they can do something they go ahead and do it. It isn't much different than the guy who tried so hard to set a car on fire in the vancouver recent riot. Because he could do it, he went ahead. Doesn't make it right. Doesn't mean that common sense, or even laws, shouldn't come into play before someone goes ahead and does it. In this case, the site has rules, and enforced them. Don't like the rules, play somewhere else, I guess is the main thing.

 

[silent_knight]

its funny that tinyeye was mentioned, as if your going to steel someones pic a simple way of making it impossible to track. Use Photoshop export without meta data.. Tada Tinyeye got nothing on you.. oops maybe i shouldn't have mentioned that lol

 

[Man Mountain]

It is posts such as the one charles put into someone's advertising that is the problem on sites without moderation. It is allowing that kind of free for all which will give it a bad name, and keep the verified and reputable advertisers off of it, not the presence of advertisers using fake pics.

Just as a point of clarification, nobody can post anything into someone's ad on erslist. That's not how the ads work there. If I understand correctly, the OP posted a comment on that advertiser's profile page on the social network part of the site, which is the "ersbook" referred to in the title of this post. And from my time of playing on ersbook (I have the same handle there as I do here for anyone who's interested), I've noticed a number of similar types of comments on profile pages, whether someone is noting that the advertiser is using fake pics or even more unkind comments about their service. Also have noticed some positive comments from happy clients on certain profile pages.

I think those of us who've signed up on ersbook are all still trying to figure out how to best make use of that feature of the site but it has been fun playing around on it. I have noticed that one lady with whom I've engaged in social chats on VCA has removed the "comments" feature from her profile page on ersbook. I would imagine that every other member would also have that ability if they had "issues" with the comments that could be left on their page.

 

[Pillowtalk]

If its like other sites, like facebook etc, then I think they can remove any comments themselves if its added to their profile. Like if I posted a comment on yours that you didn't like, you could just remove it. Hard to say if they take the time to monitor their own profiles tho a good compromise would be that all comments would have to be approved before they appear.

imo, adding stupid comments of any type is infantile. Grownups need to grow up lol.

 

[Man Mountain]

If its like other sites, like facebook etc, then I think they can remove any comments themselves if its added to their profile. Like if I posted a comment on yours that you didn't like, you could just remove it.

I checked if I could delete the posts of others on my profile. If there's a way to do it, I didn't see it. I still have the ability to delete comments that I've made on other member's profiles though. Also, as I surfed through the posting history of the past few days that you can see in the "Dashboard", I did notice that there were some posts still on the Dashboard that have been removed from the profiles they were originally posted on. One of those posts is also currently the subject of an ongoing thread here in the review section.

 

[Pirate Code]

I wonder what the policies are for newspapers when they find themselves with unscrupulous advertisers.. Say they have an advertiser that insists they are selling something they actually are not selling.. like a door crasher special that never happens. What does the newspaper do when they get all kinds of complaints from the readers?

I would guess that they THANK the readers who complained. They pull the ad and write a retraction and apology and do not allow the advertiser any space in the future.

The reputation of the newspaper is at stake, and they would NEVER allow a stupid, unethical advertiser to ruin their business....

But then again, this is the sex trade, right? So many people do not see it as the legitimate business it really should be. So many behave in unethical, unprofessional ways. It really is such a shame. Erslist could take the business to another level here, but they choose, instead, to punish the people who actually could help their business become more respectable and reliable. Obviously there could be a better way to report fake pics.. with perhaps a way to easily submit the tineye proof.

I don't envy those who have to deal with the fakes and flakes in this business, but punishing a whistleblower just makes them look even guiltier than the low lifes who use fake STOLEN pictures.

 

[Pillowtalk]

I wonder what the policies are for newspapers when they find themselves with unscrupulous advertisers.. Say they have an advertiser that insists they are selling something they actually are not selling.. like a door crasher special that never happens. What does the newspaper do when they get all kinds of complaints from the readers?

I would guess that they THANK the readers who complained. They pull the ad and write a retraction and apology and do not allow the advertiser any space in the future.

The reputation of the newspaper is at stake, and they would NEVER allow a stupid, unethical advertiser to ruin their business....

But then again, this is the sex trade, right? So many people do not see it as the legitimate business it really should be. So many behave in unethical, unprofessional ways. It really is such a shame. Erslist could take the business to another level here, but they choose, instead, to punish the people who actually could help their business become more respectable and reliable. Obviously there could be a better way to report fake pics.. with perhaps a way to easily submit the tineye proof.

I don't envy those who have to deal with the fakes and flakes in this business, but punishing a whistleblower just makes them look even guiltier than the low lifes who use fake STOLEN pictures.

What nonsense.

Do the complainers take out ads in those newspapers to alert the paper, or do they phone or write to them with the complaints?

Seriously, what is the problem with people not getting this.

btw, what a newspaper does normally if it does not have an adult section (like Georgia STraight for example) is require the advertiser to be licensed. So an escort license for independents, a biz license for the agencies and mps. If the paper has an adult section, what used to happen is the advertiser would have to go in person, show identification (age check), I suppose that would verify the pic used, and the phone number placed in the ad is confirmed to go to them. What has happened, with one advertiser in a paper that was running a rip off scam was that her ads were pulled and she was banned from the paper, based on complaints they received about it. Because they do verify and check advertisers, unlike many online sites, she was unable to recreate herself and continue with a new identity to get ads placed.

However, the complainers did NOT buy ad space in order to have that information published alongside of her paid advertisement.

The issue isn't the complaint. The issue is the juvenile way in which the complaint was made. It is absolutely no different from what any idiot could do for any sp for any reason, real or imagined. And that is the sole reason why no one should be permitted to do it, because I don't know if you noticed this or not, but there are a lot of really really stupid people out there, and most of them hide behind the computer to harrass and trash others. Real or imagined, you can't allow one with leaving the door open for the trash to come in beside it.

 

[steven69]

I wonder what the policies are for newspapers when they find themselves with unscrupulous advertisers.. Say they have an advertiser that insists they are selling something they actually are not selling.. like a door crasher special that never happens. What does the newspaper do when they get all kinds of complaints from the readers?

I would guess that they THANK the readers who complained. They pull the ad and write a retraction and apology and do not allow the advertiser any space in the future.

Try complaining to the Georgia Straight about the fake photos of the girls their Massage classified section. See where that gets you.

Advertisers sell space. it is not to them to be a consumer watchdog in issues between a consumer and one of their advertisers.

Any complaints are refered to the Advertising Standards Council, a self-regulating body of the Advertising Industry.


Maybe someone could submit a complaint to them

 

[vancity_cowboy]

Try complaining to the Georgia Straight about the fake photos of the girls their Massage classified section. See where that gets you.

Advertisers sell space. it is not to them to be a consumer watchdog in issues between a consumer and one of their advertisers.

Any complaints are refered to the Advertising Standards Council, a self-regulating body of the Advertising Industry.


Maybe someone could submit a complaint to them

apples and oranges steven, newspapers are not an interactive medium like social pages are. but i see your point to an extent

 

[Nickthenoob]

I agree with you here Van except that I don't get your apples or your oranges comment since it's all about the tits.

I will say one thing which, funnily enough, turned into a funny rant list.
It is a list like site and many will continue to work on other such sites. People who have such sites need to ask themselves who pays my bills? I am sure most do.

You have to be intelligent to run a finely tuned erotic website. Those things fall like crazy from what I've heard. A few make money. Ynot u ask? because the population is fickle and small. The entertainment is vast. There are so many running fast too far and forget who really pays the bills.

If I am a waiter for instance it is my client but my client doesn't actually pay me, they pay the restaurant who pays me. I may get tipped, better be no less than 10 percent fuckers, but I will get paid an additional wage because it is the going rate that helps support my life.

If I am the owner of the restaurant my waiters better be good because they help support my business by being friendly and because they are helpful to the people those people tend to buy my product. If those waiters upsell even the better.

So, who buys the ers face products?

People.

Who is their target market?

Since I have not heard of it, nor read of it in the past while on their website at the list... I have no fucking idea. I can guess but what do my guesses matter to anyone.

Do I care?

No.

Yet, If I was this person I would be...wait...promoting my website... rofl.

Exactly. That is precisely what I would do.

So, I do this in support of one of the advertisers because without them I would still be able to write this bullshit and still have fun doing it.

so to the ers face book thingy that you may gog and yah about, hf. Half finger. I say it because it humors me but I respect that you pay advertisement fees to the websites we visit.


Nick