am i too picky?

[djcmixer]

hey guys,

just finished my 3rd vancouver adventure. i'm still rookie so forgive me if this is a rookie problem/question. also, go ahead and laugh it up, i know i'm a rookie so i can take it.

so here's my problem. all three, let's just say, i wind up and take a shot on goal and my stick breaks. So i don't even get a SSOG..

for me, the moment i sense over-faked GFE/routine/robotic i'm done. i'm not frustrated yet because i know there are some real good SPs out there that are real into it. and its not like i'm a dick, i try to joke around early and build a relationship. it's probably a combination of things. maybe its the gemini in me or something.

i don't want to lose hope, but it is getting kinda expensive with no finishes, though my conversations with them are always fun.

anyone else had the same problem when they first started out? am i just being really picky?

(maybe part of it is i'm a young guy and i need to have a young, good looking girl, that has great attitude and service)

and recommendations on how i can address my issue. or if you have suggestions for really good sps hahaha! (i know i know, i haven't posted enough yet to be asking for SP reccos but i thought i'd put it out there anyways)

hoping someone will help a little brother out and shed some advice here

 

[Unpossible]

You can't pay for chemistry. On the flip side the girls you've seen sound like they have tried to make you enjoy yourself. SP's are not a substitute for a girlfriend. They are a fantasy and you have lose yourself in the moment. They can only meet you half way. You can't pay them to actually enjoy themselves. They may or they may not but it's your imagination that makes it happen.

my .02.

 

[sevenofnine]

of course is going to feel fake and routine
these girls see hundreds of guys they just come and go in and out of there life an hour or so at a time.
i don't think they even see it as sex its just a job
its only a waste of time if your counting how many times you cum
but i know its frustrating, if it doesn't happen but there are lots of things you can do in a session, that are just alot of fun.


i was lucky the first girl i saw was amazing, ane even after a several year break she remembered me and knew me, after a half an hour session
we had chemistry, i guess i don't know
the girl was just a sexual bomb,
if i couldn't cum with her i would have just cut it off and throuwn it on the road some where, she just did something to me this women. she was ready and loaded when the door opened, we didn't talk we didn't waste any time, we just started ripping clothes and went for it.
and there was nothing to ask or discuss she would do anything.
after the first session when i reunited with her, i would just drop my clothes at her door, and wait for her naked to come to me, we never talked
it was winter time or i would have left them in the car,
she would stare and laugh at me, but she came after she opened the wine i brought for her

latter we talked and became friends, i suggest look for a lady like that, were no talking is necessary just rip clothes and go for it.

there is another lady i saw alot and enjoyed, we talked alot first she was beautiful classy not some air head,
we talked alot and shared a bottle of wine then i would slowly un do her buttons the anticipation,
that we were going to move to her bedroom was exciting and i had such a beautiful classy women and here i was going to have sex with her,
it was just a hell of a nice feeling the conversation was easy the sex was enjoyable,
we became friends to,

alot of other girls i saw to a few i couldn't cum with i never really repeated with them,
they weren't bad or anything just something in my head went off why bother i could find a game on somwhere and watch it and have just as much fun sitting in a bar so why bother,

don't know what it is, some girls its just a struggle to get it up and cum with, others, not so much
but i put that down to the fact i never started this to i was fifty

when i was younger i was always fuckng horny and just fucking stupid to boot.
now well i guess im still fucking stupid just not so much horny

 

[djcmixer]

thanks all for sharing. some valuable thoughts here

SP's are not a substitute for a girlfriend. They are a fantasy and you have lose yourself in the moment. They can only meet you half way. You can't pay them to actually enjoy themselves. They may or they may not but it's your imagination that makes it happen.

true say.

I had a couple of independents tell me that they get into a Zen like state with their routine. My interpretation was that they basically assume the role of a DVD in a player. "Sex with Jane", where at 0:01 she says "hi big fellow" and at 59:59 she says "see you again soon". The DVD plays exactly as intended and is error free.

dec analogy. i think the concept of fantasy and creating/living a fantasy is something i need to mentally explore more

when i was younger i was always fuckng horny and just fucking stupid to boot.
now well i guess im still fucking stupid just not so much horny

hahahh thanks for sharing your experience. i think whenever we think with our other heads we're stupid. hahah

 

[vancity_cowboy]

I had a couple of independents tell me that they get into a Zen like state with their routine. My interpretation was that they basically assume the role of a DVD in a player. "Sex with Jane", where at 0:01 she says "hi big fellow" and at 59:59 she says "see you again soon". The DVD plays exactly as intended and is error free.

yeah, that sounds about right...

and it all just depends how soon she starts saying, 'i want you to cum for me now.' lol

advice? stick with it, and learn from your errors

1. good looks does not = good service

2. gfe only has meaning to a pooner, in most sp ads it means nothing

 

[FunSugarDaddy]

The other option is to go the SugarDaddy routine with an inexperienced woman who's new to this whole thing. I've probably met 4-5 of them now and it's a different experience when they don't know what else to do except to act naturally.

hey guys,

just finished my 3rd vancouver adventure. i'm still rookie so forgive me if this is a rookie problem/question. also, go ahead and laugh it up, i know i'm a rookie so i can take it.

so here's my problem. all three, let's just say, i wind up and take a shot on goal and my stick breaks. So i don't even get a SSOG..

for me, the moment i sense over-faked GFE/routine/robotic i'm done. i'm not frustrated yet because i know there are some real good SPs out there that are real into it. and its not like i'm a dick, i try to joke around early and build a relationship. it's probably a combination of things. maybe its the gemini in me or something.

i don't want to lose hope, but it is getting kinda expensive with no finishes, though my conversations with them are always fun.

anyone else had the same problem when they first started out? am i just being really picky?

(maybe part of it is i'm a young guy and i need to have a young, good looking girl, that has great attitude and service)

and recommendations on how i can address my issue. or if you have suggestions for really good sps hahaha! (i know i know, i haven't posted enough yet to be asking for SP reccos but i thought i'd put it out there anyways)

hoping someone will help a little brother out and shed some advice here

 

[thrillseeker1]

$160 is low but there are solid options out there in the $250 range. I think the majority of pooners would not spend $1000 - $1200 for a 4 hour session even if it was well within their means. You cannot buy chemistry...but spending alot more should get a pooner a better actress.

One of my regulars from when I was more actively pooning, Carmella Santos, is one of the worst reviewed ladies on here and I think it is great that I connect with her at a level that apparently few pooners do. Mutual attraction helps but chemistry is so much deeper than that. Nothing against highly reviewed ladies but when everyone connects with some women at the same level I do, then it is all too obvious that the chemistry is likely not real.

The sp I see the most had a ton of bad reviews but yet she is still my favorite. I have a great connection with her

 

[the old maxx50]

A Gemini yap i think we do have a bit of a problem some time because we see right through people at some level .


I started this over 6 yrs ago at 50 and a virgin ( i m not now) and I know your not , I would do 2 hour appointments .. and for yrs i a never came i just got use to it .. even with girls i saw a lot of still could not get one off .

Only on two occasion when i was really horny my mind was in the grove and with some one that i had seen many time before did i manage to cum..

Then about 2 yrs ago I met an Sp that we kind of hit it off on a different level .. both Geminis born on the same day.. and love to try different stuff .. I did not cum the first few time .. But i stated to look for that head space that i had when i could cum watching porn .. and then it happened I came .. and then the next time i came and the next time a came .. and it continued , a little hit an d miss here and there but i also saw other SP's and cam on the first date ..

I really have never looked back i now know that i can and i usually do find that place where i can ... And i only have to book 1 hr these days . Of course it is the ladies that i am see .. i have a connection with them it is not fake . even if they fake some things .. we still love fucking and i don't worry about not cumming

Find some one you can connect with .. if they are on the boards it helps . ans some time you do have to repeat to build up that connection ..

Of course these days i am finding that the ladies i see have retired , or live far a way and i am not big on starting up with new ones ..

Sorry i can't give you much on girls in Van I only know that Victoria has some of the best

 

[laurel love]

Perhaps, you are just the kind of human who needs to be in a relationship. Maybe, sex for you is less about getting off and more about sharing your needs with a like minded person.

Men are conditioned from youth to believe they are cold and calculating 'fuck' machines, however, studies have shows (one I read recently) that men tend to be more emotionally invested in a relationship, slower to heal, and, more likely to commit suicide than women.

Some of the more vocal reviewers on here do sound like 'fuck' machines, but, I think they are not in the majority.

so, I have no answer to your predicament, just, a thought

 

[Pillowtalk]

If you're not cumming in full service, then switch to hand finish for the ending. Stand up if you have to get a different perspective, and finish off that way. Simple.

Don't make too much of it, your reaction seems fairly normal and if you are not going to repeat with the same sp to get more familiar and at ease, then you have to stop assuming you "have" to do something specific for it to be a "successful" session.

Start thinking outside the box, and enjoy what is happening, and stop worrying about what is "supposed" to happen.

 

[kalel]

Are you still trying to spend the least you can on a 1 hour session? When you arrange a session with a SP who works for a AMP, MP, Escort Agency or a SP who is a high volume independent - you are going to get your $160 - $250 worth of "GFE". That is, you get what works to get 99% of clients off quickly and efficiently.........The cure is paying a little more for the SP that doesn't have a set routine and paying for a minimum 2 hour session - most often a 4 hour session.......

not to disrespect those who provide or pay for a 4 hour session, but me getting fucked doesn't include "out of a 1000 bucks either".

assuming you're semi-human and not rich here's what works for me:

skip the gfe. i'm here for me not you. if i'm paying for it, you're working. if it's meant to be enjoyable for you i'm paying you with my personality, charm, and possibly the rock hard abs (if you're into that). i'm not paying for it with extra cash.
watch some animals mating and see how they behave. i go in like the king of the jungle, not some desperate lonely guy who needs to be taken advantage of and seperated from his cash.
take some regular sessions and repeat the ones who were actually nice to you. i will have to agree that the micro's and amps suck for girls who actually talk to you and make you feel welcome so pick and choose your spots. it's possible to become a regular for a girl who will warm up to you and provide you with some gfe as time goes on. in this case, it's not a crime to tip. i have a regular who pretty much has no restrictions because they wore off with time. and i pay her $.4 more per session now than i used to but it's well worth it.

and for god sake, be a man. in this day and age where everybody's asked to be a more sensitive, politically correct neutored non-opinionated, non-offensive boring citizen, rise up. this hobby is about getting some of your manhood back. expand your boundaries, but don't be a jackass in the process (well, atleast not all the time). ask for what you want and if you're not getting it speak up.

 

[Unpossible]

i have a regular who pretty much has no restrictions because they wore off with time. and i pay her $.4 more per session now than i used to but it's well worth it..

So you bribed her to ease her restrictions. High five, bro!! You're smooth.

 

[sevenofnine]

i agree totally the point of this hobby is to just get some pussy, get your man hood back what ever you want to call it.

guys have differeent ideas of what that entails.
an sp told me once that she did stuff that would make me puke. i couldn't handle it

i never said anything just laughed, she has no idea. what would make me puke.
im no fuckng saint trust me i have many many fetishes,
trust me she would quit long before i would

but i have never really explored them in this hobby, or any where else to be honest with you.
some things are best left to the imagination, you kind of have to live with your self after don't you.


dont really understand why you would want to go down that path where you would do things regularly that would make most normal people puke with disgust

i don't really understand why you would want to treat an sp as a sex toy.

maybe its just me, but i see hundreds of people a day, im just out and about dealing with people.
and i hate it when people don't treat me with a certain amount of respect or dignity.
i think no matter if were a homeless bum or handicapped we deserve to be treated with respect and dignity.

even though i pay for an sp and i pay for long sessions.
i have told my sps many many times, it doesn't matter, what you have done before or with other guys,
if your not completely comfortable we don't have to do it, we will find something else we can work it out.

the first sp i told this to was quite the porn star, she just looked at me like i was fucking stupid.
and yeah i am that stupid,
but we had the best times, and nothing porn star,

her reviews are absoultely the best only one critisism a clock watcher, with me she asked me to stay. the night. we just became friends still are.

another lady the same thing, were just friends she is my sp.
its the way i want it.
its the way i see life, people.
the sex is different with each sp. we see each other i think as two people just getting through life as best we can

there was a great and amazing sp i saw once, but she just looked through me did everythink mechanical.
porn star cim mouth everything she did.

but she did not give a fuck about the guy who had just stuck his cock in her mouth. she just looked right through me.
girls have told me, they fuck guys they hate, simply fucking hate.

its just a choice we make i guess, what kind of person we want to be

do you want to be that guy the sp hates his fucking guts but still sucks him off
or that guy the sp tells
you don't have to leave.

 

[Dozo]

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Men are conditioned from youth to believe they are cold and calculating 'fuck' machines
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Although never cold and calculated, I was a kind of ‘fuck machine’ when I was “a couple of years” younger. I wanted to see as much as possible women without clothes and ride the circuit to the finish.

After I became “a bit” older, my needs changed, although I am still a collector of nudes.
Maybe you can call it a different kind of intimacy where I am looking for: I just want to lie down to feel her body against mine, explore her body, be explored the same way, etc. Completing the circuit has become secondary.

It’s my impression that this can be confusing and even threatening for a sp. At least it disturbs the DVD routine. Usually the sp starts working the routine again because it makes her nervous.

I prefer session of minimal 90 minutes, 120 is better.
Ever noticed that some sp’s refuse anything longer than 1 hour?

My home base is in Europe and I am used to “Thai massage parlours” (usually no fs) where I also can drop by for a chat and a cup of jasmine tea (and eventually change my mind). Of course, this usually takes a couple of visits depending on how easily it is to socialize.

I do not know if there are similar places in Vancouver (not enough time to explore), but the advantage for me is that in such a place there is less rush to get you on the street again. Makes me much more receptive.

 

[kalel]

So you bribed her to ease her restrictions. High five, bro!! You're smooth.

yup. an extra .4 is well worth going an hour over limit, adding cim, among other tings. the reality is that she gave the extras before the long before the bribe. i did that cuz i make more money now, i can be nicer.

 

[kalel]

Let me guess.

You don't always drink beer...but when you do, you prefer Dos Equis.

actually i don't drink beer at all (i support a different kind of 6 pack)......but i suppose if i did it would be dos equis