cops in north van

[asian hunter]

i made a call 2 nina (so I thought) and was quickly responded to by const. dickheadand had to think quickly to get him off my case. i consider myself lucky cause if i could of i would have gon to ninas place and got myself busted. i dont have the number (sorry) but the add was for NINA 40s elegent something and she looked hot any way careful in north vancouver cause there is some sort of sting goin on. safe poonin guys

P.S. ive seen sheila a few times and now shes gone never wrote a review but not the hottest but great service

 

[vancity_cowboy]

this is the oldest trick in the biz. either a competitor or a bunch of kids playing party games mock up an ad for a sp, then put le's number in the ad to put the fear of god into the innocent pooner

no sting, just hijinks

you've been had! lol

 

[pussypleaser]

Yeah, I'm no expert but I'd have to agree. If the cops were going to sting you, they'd bait you and catch you. Talking to you over the phone can't prove shit. Although, if I wasn't expecting it, it might get to me too. It's always a fear in the back of my mind. Which beg's the question. If a cop did bait you, what would have to transpire for you to be charged. Handing a girl money inside her appartment isn't illegal is it? Do they have to get you to admit you are handing the money over in exchange for sex? I don't know, maybe I watch too many movies. Maybe they can get you just for handing the cash over. Anybody?.....

 

[ericsonchen]

Anyone fimiliar with criminology in here?

Assuming there is sufficient evidence to prosecute you, what are the legal consequences of getting caught in BC?

Would be nice to know,

cheers

 

[ValleyNoob]

99.9% sure that it's you can only be arrested for trying to pick up prostitutes on the streets or in public places.

 

[ericsonchen]

ur right valley noob, i looked it up too

Based on Wikipedia, the services were never illegal in Canada. Rather they try make it difficult for to happen without breaking the law,

As clients, we may break the following
-being found in an establishment with more than one SP is illegal (as it now looks like a broth..)
-communicating in a public place (anywhere public an access by right, invitation or implied..)

The fact that the service itself is not illegal makes everything subjective and it remains disputed all over Canada.

The courts use case law based on facts. In order for an illegal activity to take place 3 elements must be present:
1) an agreement for service
2) The SP solicitates or is available to anyone (SP did not choose the partner)
3) SP requires some form of payment

 

[pussypleaser]

Thank you for that!

 

[blackcad]

The courts use case law based on facts. In order for an illegal activity to take place 3 elements must be present:
1) an agreement for service
2) The SP solicitates or is available to anyone (SP did not choose the partner)
3) SP requires some form of payment

The key here is "communicating for the purpose of prostitution in a public place".

A public place is generally a place where anyone can go...or anyone has access to....a hotel room is not a public place (a guest rents a room for privacy)...the common area of a strata building (eg lobby) is not a public place as only tenants/owners have keys to access the common areas....a nightclub is not a public place if it charges fees for access (thus not anyone can go).....nor is a sporting event where tickets must be sold to get access...a public telephone is a public place when it is placed in a public place (so a conversation on a pay phone in Roger's Arena during game time would probably fail the legal test of "public place" as this public phone is not in a public place during game time.)

Any conversation re sexual services for a fee is illegal if it occurs in a public place.....a car siting on public roads...or private roadways that are accessible by the public(eg mall parking lot) are public. The internet is not considered a public "place".....private phone or private cell phone conversations are definitely not public place conversations. Police must prove that the conversation was regarding sex for money, and that the conversation was held in a public place....otherwise there is no criminal activity occurring.

I hope this post wasn't too redundant but I hate that most pooners are so afraid of illegal activity when they're actually not participating in anything illegal.

 

[vivalasvegas]

hugely appreciated advice, thanks.

 

[brown25]

If Asian Hunter is still peeved, and has some free time, why not take that phone number and use it on some fake Craigslist ads?

Garage sales, free pets, cheap ipads, M4M?

They'd cancel that number in a hurry!

 

[westcoast555]

They'd never do that. They either raid a place if they consider it a 'bawdy house'... or they do operations to shut down the street scene because it creates friction with residents and Businesses ( i.e. seeing acts in cars, stepping on condoms in parking lots etc. )

The police are in no way naive about the sex scene and aren't interested in politicizing it. It's the morality squad that creates the problems. The cops just want to shut down the street scene which is the exact problem you will get more of if you go around raiding 'bawdy houses' and massage parlours where it's practiced discretely and safely indoors. I don't think they bother with massage parlours or bawdy houses unless they receive complaints or have a reason to believe there's illegal immigrants or underage workers being exploited. Prostitution is still legal in Canada... public solicitation is not. Hence the street busts. Living off the avails is also illegal.

For the most part the cops and legal system have a sensible approach and are fairly 'hands off'.. except for situations like the DTES where they were slack in dealing with Pickton's victims.

The key is to write to your MP or whomever whenever you see bullshit 'abolitionist' activism rearing its head in the form of proposed legislation. You needn't position yourself as a consumer of services either. From the perspective of human welfare and personal liberty and the appropriate role of government and law enforcement... it's valid to object to such proposed changes to the law. It will only force women out on the street... reduce the likelihood of clients to report abuse... and increase the marginalization and danger faced by sex workers.

 

[outandabout]

The key here is "communicating for the purpose of prostitution in a public place".

The internet is not considered a public "place".....private phone or private cell phone conversations are definitely not public place conversations. Police must prove that the conversation was regarding sex for money, and that the conversation was held in a public place....otherwise there is no criminal activity occurring.

Okay, not being factious here BUT... my question is this: Let's say a prospective client meets a lady on the street. They exchange phone numbers. He calls her (or the other way around). They discuss stuff on the phone... but out of 'ear-range'. He arranges to 'meet' her and pick her up. Private or public conversation?

Also, the same could apply to either texting or emailing back and forth, assuming of course the ONLY info that was shared in public was in fact a method of communicating (ie: contact information) 'privately'.

(BTW, i have no idea. I'm just asking for a learned opinion.) Thanks!

 

[dizzybiker]

North van covered!

Yep .. I do believe our own Van Cowboy... Said it like it is.. Well I trust him.. In his long historic standing! He would not fuck with us ! (?) would he now?
Nope!
Dizzy!