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A few posts ago the talk of me committing suicide came up. I admit that I have thought about killing my self. There are lots of ways to die, I checked the LD50 of my sleeping pills, thought about a knife to major arteries, etc, etc, etc. I didn't have anything to lose by doing it, and then I realized I didn't have anything to lose. By not having anything to lose I could do whatever I want. The only thing really keeping me in Victoria is my job and the mortgage on my home. I'm tired of my job and my mortgage isn't all that important to me, not anymore. Later this year I will supposedly get a bonus, supposedly. If I do I will go to Europe and bum around for a few weeks. If I don't get it I will sell my home, quit my job and bum around the world. I would be giving up a 100k a year job and one of the best pensions in Canada.

I don't have loved ones and I never had. I don't have any long time friends and what friends i do have their own lives with their own problems. And yeah I really have a hard time trusting people so i keep most of them at arms length. I will never truly be comfortable around people and people aren't comfortable around me.


I might be getting my motorcycle license this year, I'm learning a couple of languages among a few other things. so i am going out their and doing things.

I will not promise to never kill myself, I said I would never see an escort and you all know how well that never happened ;). It is my life and my decision to do what I want with it.
 

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If you want an idea what my life is like sometimes what I feel sometimes.

Below is the suicide note of a man called Bill Zeller, he killed himself when he was 27 and with the exception of the sexual abuse there are similarities between what he went through life and what he feels and me.

The Agonizing Last Words of Programmer Bill Zeller

Bill Zeller

I have the urge to declare my sanity and justify my actions, but I assume I'll never be able to convince anyone that this was the right decision. Maybe it's true that anyone who does this is insane by definition, but I can at least explain my reasoning. I considered not writing any of this because of how personal it is, but I like tying up loose ends and don't want people to wonder why I did this. Since I've never spoken to anyone about what happened to me, people would likely draw the wrong conclusions.

My first memories as a child are of being raped, repeatedly. This has affected every aspect of my life. This darkness, which is the only way I can describe it, has followed me like a fog, but at times intensified and overwhelmed me, usually triggered by a distinct situation. In kindergarten I couldn't use the bathroom and would stand petrified whenever I needed to, which started a trend of awkward and unexplained social behavior. The damage that was done to my body still prevents me from using the bathroom normally, but now it's less of a physical impediment than a daily reminder of what was done to me.

This darkness followed me as I grew up. I remember spending hours playing with legos, having my world consist of me and a box of cold, plastic blocks. Just waiting for everything to end. It's the same thing I do now, but instead of legos it's surfing the web or reading or listening to a baseball game. Most of my life has been spent feeling dead inside, waiting for my body to catch up.

At times growing up I would feel inconsolable rage, but I never connected this to what happened until puberty. I was able to keep the darkness at bay for a few hours at a time by doing things that required intense concentration, but it would always come back. Programming appealed to me for this reason. I was never particularly fond of computers or mathematically inclined, but the temporary peace it would provide was like a drug. But the darkness always returned and built up something like a tolerance, because programming has become less and less of a refuge.

The darkness is with me nearly every time I wake up. I feel like a grime is covering me. I feel like I'm trapped in a contimated body that no amount of washing will clean. Whenever I think about what happened I feel manic and itchy and can't concentrate on anything else. It manifests itself in hours of eating or staying up for days at a time or sleeping for sixteen hours straight or week long programming binges or constantly going to the gym. I'm exhausted from feeling like this every hour of every day.

Three to four nights a week I have nightmares about what happened. It makes me avoid sleep and constantly tired, because sleeping with what feels like hours of nightmares is not restful. I wake up sweaty and furious. I'm reminded every morning of what was done to me and the control it has over my life.

I've never been able to stop thinking about what happened to me and this hampered my social interactions. I would be angry and lost in thought and then be interrupted by someone saying "Hi" or making small talk, unable to understand why I seemed cold and distant. I walked around, viewing the outside world from a distant portal behind my eyes, unable to perform normal human niceties. I wondered what it would be like to take to other people without what happened constantly on my mind, and I wondered if other people had similar experiences that they were better able to mask.

Alcohol was also something that let me escape the darkness. It would always find me later, though, and it was always angry that I managed to escape and it made me pay. Many of the irresponsible things I did were the result of the darkness. Obviously I'm responsible for every decision and action, including this one, but there are reasons why things happen the way they do.

Alcohol and other drugs provided a way to ignore the realities of my situation. It was easy to spend the night drinking and forget that I had no future to look forward to. I never liked what alcohol did to me, but it was better than facing my existence honestly. I haven't touched alcohol or any other drug in over seven months (and no drugs or alcohol will be involved when I do this) and this has forced me to evaluate my life in an honest and clear way. There's no future here. The darkness will always be with me.

I used to think if I solved some problem or achieved some goal, maybe he would leave. It was comforting to identify tangible issues as the source of my problems instead of something that I'll never be able to change. I thought that if I got into to a good college, or a good grad school, or lost weight, or went to the gym nearly every day for a year, or created programs that millions of people used, or spent a summer or California or New York or published papers that I was proud of, then maybe I would feel some peace and not be constantly haunted and unhappy. But nothing I did made a dent in how depressed I was on a daily basis and nothing was in any way fulfilling. I'm not sure why I ever thought that would change anything.

I didn't realize how deep a hold he had on me and my life until my first relationship. I stupidly assumed that no matter how the darkness affected me personally, my romantic relationships would somehow be separated and protected. Growing up I viewed my future relationships as a possible escape from this thing that haunts me every day, but I began to realize how entangled it was with every aspect of my life and how it is never going to release me. Instead of being an escape, relationships and romantic contact with other people only intensified everything about him that I couldn't stand. I will never be able to have a relationship in which he is not the focus, affecting every aspect of my romantic interactions.

Relationships always started out fine and I'd be able to ignore him for a few weeks. But as we got closer emotionally the darkness would return and every night it'd be me, her and the darkness in a black and gruesome threesome. He would surround me and penetrate me and the more we did the more intense it became. It made me hate being touched, because as long as we were separated I could view her like an outsider viewing something good and kind and untainted. Once we touched, the darkness would envelope her too and take her over and the evil inside me would surround her. I always felt like I was infecting anyone I was with.

Relationships didn't work. No one I dated was the right match, and I thought that maybe if I found the right person it would overwhelm him. Part of me knew that finding the right person wouldn't help, so I became interested in girls who obviously had no interest in me. For a while I thought I was gay. I convinced myself that it wasn't the darkness at all, but rather my orientation, because this would give me control over why things didn't feel "right". The fact that the darkness affected sexual matters most intensely made this idea make some sense and I convinced myself of this for a number of years, starting in college after my first relationship ended. I told people I was gay (at Trinity, not at Princeton), even though I wasn't attracted to men and kept finding myself interested in girls. Because if being gay wasn't the answer, then what was? People thought I was avoiding my orientation, but I was actually avoiding the truth, which is that while I'm straight, I will never be content with anyone. I know now that the darkness will never leave.

Last spring I met someone who was unlike anyone else I'd ever met. Someone who showed me just how well two people could get along and how much I could care about another human being. Someone I know I could be with and love for the rest of my life, if I weren't so fucked up. Amazingly, she liked me. She liked the shell of the man the darkness had left behind. But it didn't matter because I couldn't be alone with her. It was never just the two of us, it was always the three of us: her, me and the darkness. The closer we got, the more intensely I'd feel the darkness, like some evil mirror of my emotions. All the closeness we had and I loved was complemented by agony that I couldn't stand, from him. I realized that I would never be able to give her, or anyone, all of me or only me. She could never have me without the darkness and evil inside me. I could never have just her, without the darkness being a part of all of our interactions. I will never be able to be at peace or content or in a healthy relationship. I realized the futility of the romantic part of my life. If I had never met her, I would have realized this as soon as I met someone else who I meshed similarly well with. It's likely that things wouldn't have worked out with her and we would have broken up (with our relationship ending, like the majority of relationships do) even if I didn't have this problem, since we only dated for a short time. But I will face exactly the same problems with the darkness with anyone else. Despite my hopes, love and compatability is not enough. Nothing is enough. There's no way I can fix this or even push the darkness down far enough to make a relationship or any type of intimacy feasible.

So I watched as things fell apart between us. I had put an explicit time limit on our relationship, since I knew it couldn't last because of the darkness and didn't want to hold her back, and this caused a variety of problems. She was put in an unnatural situation that she never should have been a part of. It must have been very hard for her, not knowing what was actually going on with me, but this is not something I've ever been able to talk about with anyone. Losing her was very hard for me as well. Not because of her (I got over our relationship relatively quickly), but because of the realization that I would never have another relationship and because it signified the last true, exclusive personal connection I could ever have. This wasn't apparent to other people, because I could never talk about the real reasons for my sadness. I was very sad in the summer and fall, but it was not because of her, it was because I will never escape the darkness with anyone. She was so loving and kind to me and gave me everything I could have asked for under the circumstances. I'll never forget how much happiness she brought me in those briefs moments when I could ignore the darkness. I had originally planned to kill myself last winter but never got around to it. (Parts of this letter were written over a year ago, other parts days before doing this.) It was wrong of me to involve myself in her life if this were a possibility and I should have just left her alone, even though we only dated for a few months and things ended a long time ago. She's just one more person in a long list of people I've hurt.

I could spend pages talking about the other relationships I've had that were ruined because of my problems and my confusion related to the darkness. I've hurt so many great people because of who I am and my inability to experience what needs to be experienced. All I can say is that I tried to be honest with people about what I thought was true.

I've spent my life hurting people. Today will be the last time.

I've told different people a lot of things, but I've never told anyone about what happened to me, ever, for obvious reasons. It took me a while to realize that no matter how close you are to someone or how much they claim to love you, people simply cannot keep secrets. I learned this a few years ago when I thought I was gay and told people. The more harmful the secret, the juicier the gossip and the more likely you are to be betrayed. People don't care about their word or what they've promised, they just do whatever the fuck they want and justify it later. It feels incredibly lonely to realize you can never share something with someone and have it be between just the two of you. I don't blame anyone in particular, I guess it's just how people are. Even if I felt like this is something I could have shared, I have no interest in being part of a friendship or relationship where the other person views me as the damaged and contaminated person that I am. So even if I were able to trust someone, I probably would not have told them about what happened to me. At this point I simply don't care who knows.

I feel an evil inside me. An evil that makes me want to end life. I need to stop this. I need to make sure I don't kill someone, which is not something that can be easily undone. I don't know if this is related to what happened to me or something different. I recognize the irony of killing myself to prevent myself from killing someone else, but this decision should indicate what I'm capable of.

So I've realized I will never escape the darkness or misery associated with it and I have a responsibility to stop myself from physically harming others.

I'm just a broken, miserable shell of a human being. Being molested has defined me as a person and shaped me as a human being and it has made me the monster I am and there's nothing I can do to escape it. I don't know any other existence. I don't know what life feels like where I'm apart from any of this. I actively despise the person I am. I just feel fundamentally broken, almost non-human. I feel like an animal that woke up one day in a human body, trying to make sense of a foreign world, living among creatures it doesn't understand and can't connect with.

I have accepted that the darkness will never allow me to be in a relationship. I will never go to sleep with someone in my arms, feeling the comfort of their hands around me. I will never know what uncontimated intimacy is like. I will never have an exclusive bond with someone, someone who can be the recipient of all the love I have to give. I will never have children, and I wanted to be a father so badly. I think I would have made a good dad. And even if I had fought through the darkness and married and had children all while being unable to feel intimacy, I could have never done that if suicide were a possibility. I did try to minimize pain, although I know that this decision will hurt many of you. If this hurts you, I hope that you can at least forget about me quickly.

There's no point in identifying who molested me, so I'm just going to leave it at that. I doubt the word of a dead guy with no evidence about something that happened over twenty years ago would have much sway.

You may wonder why I didn't just talk to a professional about this. I've seen a number of doctors since I was a teenager to talk about other issues and I'm positive that another doctor would not have helped. I was never given one piece of actionable advice, ever. More than a few spent a large part of the session reading their notes to remember who I was. And I have no interest in talking about being raped as a child, both because I know it wouldn't help and because I have no confidence it would remain secret. I know the legal and practical limits of doctor/patient confidentiality, growing up in a house where we'd hear stories about the various mental illnesses of famous people, stories that were passed down through generations. All it takes is one doctor who thinks my story is interesting enough to share or a doctor who thinks it's her right or responsibility to contact the authorities and have me identify the molestor (justifying her decision by telling herself that someone else might be in danger). All it takes is a single doctor who violates my trust, just like the "friends" who I told I was gay did, and everything would be made public and I'd be forced to live in a world where people would know how fucked up I am. And yes, I realize this indicates that I have severe trust issues, but they're based on a large number of experiences with people who have shown a profound disrepect for their word and the privacy of others.

People say suicide is selfish. I think it's selfish to ask people to continue living painful and miserable lives, just so you possibly won't feel sad for a week or two. Suicide may be a permanent solution to a temporary problem, but it's also a permanent solution to a ~23 year-old problem that grows more intense and overwhelming every day.

Some people are just dealt bad hands in this life. I know many people have it worse than I do, and maybe I'm just not a strong person, but I really did try to deal with this. I've tried to deal with this every day for the last 23 years and I just can't fucking take it anymore.

I often wonder what life must be like for other people. People who can feel the love from others and give it back unadulterated, people who can experience sex as an intimate and joyous experience, people who can experience the colors and happenings of this world without constant misery. I wonder who I'd be if things had been different or if I were a stronger person. It sounds pretty great.

I'm prepared for death. I'm prepared for the pain and I am ready to no longer exist. Thanks to the strictness of New Jersey gun laws this will probably be much more painful than it needs to be, but what can you do. My only fear at this point is messing something up and surviving.

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I'd also like to address my family, if you can call them that. I despise everything they stand for and I truly hate them, in a non-emotional, dispassionate and what I believe is a healthy way. The world will be a better place when they're dead—one with less hatred and intolerance.

If you're unfamiliar with the situation, my parents are fundamentalist Christians who kicked me out of their house and cut me off financially when I was 19 because I refused to attend seven hours of church a week.

They live in a black and white reality they've constructed for themselves. They partition the world into good and evil and survive by hating everything they fear or misunderstand and calling it love. They don't understand that good and decent people exist all around us, "saved" or not, and that evil and cruel people occupy a large percentage of their church. They take advantage of people looking for hope by teaching them to practice the same hatred they practice.

A random example:

"I am personally convinced that if a Muslim truly believes and obeys the Koran, he will be a terrorist." - George Zeller, August 24, 2010.

If you choose to follow a religion where, for example, devout Catholics who are trying to be good people are all going to Hell but child molestors go to Heaven (as long as they were "saved" at some point), that's your choice, but it's fucked up. Maybe a God who operates by those rules does exist. If so, fuck Him.

Their church was always more important than the members of their family and they happily sacrificed whatever necessary in order to satisfy their contrived beliefs about who they should be.

I grew up in a house where love was proxied through a God I could never believe in. A house where the love of music with any sort of a beat was literally beaten out of me. A house full of hatred and intolerance, run by two people who were experts at appearing kind and warm when others were around. Parents who tell an eight year old that his grandmother is going to Hell because she's Catholic. Parents who claim not to be racist but then talk about the horrors of miscegenation. I could list hundreds of other examples, but it's tiring.

Since being kicked out, I've interacted with them in relatively normal ways. I talk to them on the phone like nothing happened. I'm not sure why. Maybe because I like pretending I have a family. Maybe I like having people I can talk to about what's been going on in my life. Whatever the reason, it's not real and it feels like a sham. I should have never allowed this reconnection to happen.

I wrote the above a while ago, and I do feel like that much of the time. At other times, though, I feel less hateful. I know my parents honestly believe the crap they believe in. I know that my mom, at least, loved me very much and tried her best. One reason I put this off for so long is because I know how much pain it will cause her. She has been sad since she found out I wasn't "saved", since she believes I'm going to Hell, which is not a sadness for which I am responsible. That was never going to change, and presumably she believes the state of my physical body is much less important than the state of my soul. Still, I cannot intellectually justify this decision, knowing how much it will hurt her. Maybe my ability to take my own life, knowing how much pain it will cause, shows that I am a monster who doesn't deserve to live. All I know is that I can't deal with this pain any longer and I'm am truly sorry I couldn't wait until my family and everyone I knew died so this could be done without hurting anyone. For years I've wished that I'd be hit by a bus or die while saving a baby from drowning so my death might be more acceptable, but I was never so lucky.

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To those of you who have shown me love, thank you for putting up with all my shittiness and moodiness and arbitrariness. I was never the person I wanted to be. Maybe without the darkness I would have been a better person, maybe not. I did try to be a good person, but I realize I never got very far.

I'm sorry for the pain this causes. I really do wish I had another option. I hope this letter explains why I needed to do this. If you can't understand this decision, I hope you can at least forgive me.

Bill Zeller
 

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It's ugly, dude. I've flirted with the idea myself but you're leaving a shit stained body for somebody else to deal with. Man up!!

Seriously, if you want a friend pm me.
 

sevenofnine

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don't know what to say accept
i have been there myself.
lined up pills was going to do it thought of ways to kill myself.
my father was the worst evil one could imagine
i was abused physically emotionally sexually
yet i know other people suffered far worse.

i can't imagine
yet im hear today
have a wife two kids,

at times i was so alone, so alone i had no one talked to no one.
now i just smosh and talk to people all day long\


what im trying to say. is
life is a movie you have to stay to the end,
and who knows one day you might close a chapter in your life and start a new one.

i felt so hopless at one point in my life, and was thinking of committing suicide but that was so far and long ago.
there are nice people out there
but more important you have to find the love in yourself

but listen
you have to find the love within you first then
you will find it outside of you
 

badbadboy

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geek walk into you local hospital's ER and tell them that you have been having thoughts of suicide. Most have a psych nurse on staff and they will help.

Seeking advise on the internet will not give you any real valid results.
 
The BEST and only thing you can do is get out of your head, Volunteer, devote you time to helping others ,you spend a great deal of time in your head analyzing every single fault,problem.

If you think your life is pointless, useless, give it to someone else, if you can afford to travel go help rebuild cities affected by devastation. Get involved! You will be suprised how much better is will help your mind than any prescription drug. Get the hell outa here and throw yourself selflessly into something were someone needs your help.
IMO, Best wishes. Xo
 

Fractals

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It is my life and my decision to do what I want with it.
Right, you are the master of your own life.

Never let anyone convince you otherwise.

As another geek once said: "Hell is other people."

Here are some links for you to consider, or perhaps, completely ignore.

http://www.crisiscentre.bc.ca/get-help/
"The Crisis Intervention and Suicide Prevention Centre of BC (Crisis Centre) is a non-profit, volunteer organization committed to helping people help themselves and others deal with crisis."

http://www.depressed.net/suicide/suicidefaq/index.html
"This is the semi-famous alt.suicide.holiday Methods File. It contains information on many different ways to take your own life. Some of them are serious, some of them are not. Hopefully, you can see which is which by yourself, but I'll try to mark them anyway."

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Tugela

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...and this is why the internet isn't a good place to discuss personal issues. People who can't understand the problem will make judgemental statements, minimizing your problems.
Except that they are not real problems. Real problems are not making enough money to pay your rent or feed your child. Real problems are being involved with someone who will harm you if things aren't done just so.

Emotional "problems" can be dealt with by confronting them. Get therapy. Get medication. Stop focussing on the past, don't obsess with the future and concentrate on the present. Do something. If you won't do any of that then they are not really problems. The world is a wonderfull beautiful place if you would simply stop and take the time to look.

Opting to kill yourself solves nothing, makes other peoples lives miserable and is the cowards way out.
 

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You would get some perspective on your own life by volunteering in a developing country, and see (to be cliched) how good your life is compared to others. There are a number of charitable organizations looking for volunteers who can pay their own way, and commit to a certain amount of time. Some may provide room and meals if you can get there on your own. I highly recommend this to anyone who lives in Canada, has a job and a home to live in, and is able to contemplate buying themselves more "stuff", to go see how other people (especially children) have to live every single day.

Not saying you are not clinically depressed, but it would do you good to find out that you certainly have a lot to be thankful for.
 

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You would get some perspective on your own life by volunteering in a developing country, and see (to be cliched) how good your life is compared to others. There are a number of charitable organizations looking for volunteers who can pay their own way, and commit to a certain amount of time. Some may provide room and meals if you can get there on your own. I highly recommend this to anyone who lives in Canada, has a job and a home to live in, and is able to contemplate buying themselves more "stuff", to go see how other people (especially children) have to live every single day.
I believe this is some of the best possible advice -- and similar to a couple of other posts above. There is an unrealistic emphasis in our society on personal happiness and self-realization. Many (most?) of us fall short of what we had hoped for in our lives -- relationships, personal achievement, monetary gain. We compare ourselves to goals that are not necessarily reachable for us -- for whatever reason, and consider ourselves failures if we are unable to overcome our problems and achieve those personal goals.

We have to learn to see beyond ourselves -- the world is a big place, and we are lucky to occupy a privileged place within it. Before deciding that it isn't worth it to continue on, gamble on living and devote yourself to something larger. You may find travel and volunteer work a real eye-opener, and it is a distinct possibility that you may find something within yourself you never knew existed. I worked for several years in Africa and China, and it has given me a perspective that I still count on when I am depressed about my other disappointments in the way my life has unfolded.

And again -- also as above -- if you are so depressed that you simply can't see outside yourself, you may need professional help before you can take these steps.
 

sevenofnine

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just a few thoughts.
um
the person who said, this is depressing and well the internet is not the place,
and he needs help.
i guess your right
but your also missing the point
that he doesn't think he needs help or is beyond help or doesnt trust anyone.

i have been there.
and you don't want help, don't trust anyone to understand you, or to help you.
your stuck in your own world and well you don't want to continue
and
well you don't think you need help, the world needs help not you or me

trust me been there.

the way out.
time
focus on something the future a goal.
what ever it is set your own goal. don't let someone else set it for you.
family wife kids money
travel sex,
what ever it is. sports, knowledge
find something, and move toward it
enjoy the simple things,
trust yourself.
or live for some one else
i was fourteen and thought seriously about suicide
but dad was beating mum.
i stayed for her.

so if you don't want to live for yourself
find some one else to live for
and look to the future.
whether its just attending a stanlely cup hockey game
of fucking some chick in the ass. or
being a father,
or making like a billion dollars.

find a reason to live and go on.


its tough i know,

today.

i took a six pac of beer sat down among my kids horses in a pasture
with my back up againest a hay bail
simple as hell but such a relaxing thing to do.

trust me its worth it to live
to see the sun come up tomorrow
 

sr8razr

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All other species, and historically homo-sapiens, culled out those without various survival traits with a process we call natural-selection. Todays world has increased requirements for stress management and handling complex social issues. Those that dont have the required generic or learned traits to cope are free to get out of the way, not pass on their defective genes, and leave more resources available for those better equiped. No matter what people think, humans are not separate from the natural order.
 

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I first became acquainted with this poem when my father gave me a handwritten copy of it a few months before he was diagnosed with Alzheimer's. The author of the poem faced many difficulties in his life and he wrote this during a particularly hard time in his life. I have included a little about him after the poem. I hope this helps.


Out of the night that covers me,
Black as the Pit from pole to pole,
I thank whatever gods may be
For my unconquerable soul.

In the fell clutch of circumstance
I have not winced nor cried aloud.
Under the bludgeonings of chance
My head is bloody, but unbowed.

Beyond this place of wrath and tears
Looms but the Horror of the shade,
And yet the menace of the years
Finds, and shall find, me unafraid.

It matters not how strait the gate,
How charged with punishments the scroll.
I am the master of my fate:
I am the captain of my soul.

William Ernest Henley


William Ernest Henley was born in Gloucester, England on August 23, 1849. He lived an impoverished childhood, but his father did manage to send him to the Crypt Grammar School. He was forced to leave Crypt for medical reasons (although some believe that it may have had to do with finances as well). At age 12 he was diagnosed with tubercular arthritis and by the time he reached sixteen years of age, his left leg was amputated just below his knee.

Not only did his financial situation perhaps prevent him from acquiring a continuous education, it also hindered any pursuit of his inborn musical talent. Finances became a serious problem when his father died in 1867 and Henley was forced to leave school permanently. In 1869, he became very frustrated with Gloucester and migrated to London to seek employment.

In 1872, he grew quite ill, in fact too ill to continue residing in London, and relocated to the Marget Royal and Sea Bathing Infirmary. Without much success at Margate, he then went to Edinburgh where he wrote his In Hospital collection of poetry.

It was also in Edinburgh that he fell in love with Anna Boyle, whom he eventually married. In 1878, Henley and Anna Boyle got married and in 1888 they had their only child, Margaret. It was only five years later that they lost Margaret to a fatal case of cerebral meningitis.
 

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Puddlegirl, you said "If you think your life is pointless, useless, give it to someone else"........ thats exactly it.What a beautiful thing to say. Geek. If your reading this..... you have your answer. We all do.
Thanks girl !
 
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