And another sad election coming, probably May 2

[HankQuinlan]

I really don't think that there was any avoiding the election and I think that's the conclusion the Conservatives came to. If they had thought that they could avoid the election with additional goodies for the NDP or Bloc, I think the goodies would have been in the budget.

I really believe the Conservatives wet their finger and held it in the air, and were convinced that now was their best chance of winning a majority, and decided to engineer the election.

If they really wanted to avoid the election, they could have put real goodies on the table -- rolling back the tax cuts on the rich and corporations would have put billions back in to deficit cutting; cutting back on the ridiculously expensive to buy and more ridiculously expensive to operate fighter jets (and admitting the full costs of those); admitting the costs of their crime bill and cutting back on their plans to implement that (rather than ignoring the costs).

The opposition would have had a hard time not coming to the table to cooperate if there had been a serious effort to actually govern.

 

[badbadboy]

And pray tell what would that agenda be?

Sixty-nine years of Liberal Governments in the 20th Century has led them to believe that they are the natural governing party of Canada. They do not feel comfortable in the 'wrong' seats.

Honestly, this Michael Ignatieff just wants to be PM. He has done nothing extraordinary to convince me that voting for Liberals would actually benefit BC, Western Canada or my levels of taxation one bit. Besides, I know my local MP and he does strike me as a hard working honest small c Conservative.

 

[johnniejetpack]

"Imagine a coalition of arch-centralists and Quebec sovereigntists trying to work together. The only thing they'll be able to agree on is to spend more money and to raise taxes to pay for it." — Prime Minister Stephen Harper.

Amen brother.

 

[storm rider]

"Imagine a coalition of arch-centralists and Quebec sovereigntists trying to work together. The only thing they'll be able to agree on is to spend more money and to raise taxes to pay for it." — Prime Minister Stephen Harper.

Amen brother.

You hit the nail on the head......the only things the liberals do is "tax and spend"

SR

 

[badbadboy]

You hit the nail on the head......the only things the liberals do is "spend and tax a lot more"

SR

:fixed:

 

[thumper81]

That's an intersting statement, considering the Conservatives right now have both the largest budget and deficit in Canadian history.
If it wasn't for Paul Martin and the Liberals, we would be in just as bad shape as the US right now. Consider Harper wanted more deregulation of the banks which would have but us in the same boat as the Americans.

 

[badbadboy]

That's an intersting statement, considering the Conservatives right now have both the largest budget and deficit in Canadian history.
If it wasn't for Paul Martin and the Liberals, we would be in just as bad shape as the US right now. Consider Harper wanted more deregulation of the banks which would have but us in the same boat as the Americans.

Source, proof?

 

[thumper81]

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/canada/ottawa-posted-largest-deficit-ever-last-year-104843689.html

http://thetyee.ca/Views/2008/10/08/HarperEcon/

 

[Iroc]

I am SO!!!!!!!!!! MAD at ALL of these elected imbeciles .......it is going to cost us (the taxpayers) at least another $300,000,000.00 to stage this fricking thing.

What is going to be the outcome......the people will have spoken (those that actually vote....and YES, I will cast my vote) and maybe the balance of seats will change a little but not much.....another PC minority.
I Hope that every candidate comes around to my front door so that I can give them a piece of my mind.....STOP WASTING MY!!!!!!!! MONEY.

 

[badbadboy]

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/canada/ottawa-posted-largest-deficit-ever-last-year-104843689.html

http://thetyee.ca/Views/2008/10/08/HarperEcon/

Winnipeg Free Press - Liberal backing print paper since the 1930's. What would you expect from "journalists" such as the WFP?

Tyee Article - 2008. Policies were severely pulled back by the financial institutions since the meltdown last year.

Hey, If you come up with something from a neutral source, please put it up.

Next?

 

[HankQuinlan]

Winnipeg Free Press - Liberal backing print paper since the 1930's. What would you expect from "journalists" such as the WFP?

Tyee Article - 2008. Policies were severely pulled back by the financial institutions since the meltdown last year.

Hey, If you come up with something from a neutral source, please put it up.

Next?

Or else maybe you could refute the actual content of those articles? What could possibly be neutral about that dang liberal media? You can find many sources for Harper's desire to follow American models of deregulation prior to 2008, and remember that he pooh-poohed the breakdown AFTER IT HAD FRIGGEN' HAPPENED. Remember "It's a good time to buy stocks?"

He was a disciple of the same economic theories that caused the problems, despite having a highly regarded degree in the apparent fantasy world of economics.

And i will never forgive him for wanting to join in on the war in Iraq. At least Chretien was too smart for that, and saved us billions and billions of dollars in that alone.

 

[badbadboy]

Or else maybe you could refute the actual content of those articles? What could possibly be neutral about that dang liberal media?

Or the onus could be upon you to justify the credibility. I have more important things to look at on this site than your political agenda.

You and I won't be voting for the same party so let's just agree to disagree.

 

[thumper81]

You mean neutral, credible sources from, I don't know, say the National Post or Ezra Levant (Western Standard)? I guess it's only "fair and balanced" if a more right-leaning media outlet provides the information. You can see many of the budget figures on the Finance Ministry's site or Stats Canada. As for the deregulating comments, I'm sure you could find it in Hansard (since Harper argued for it in Parliament). Frankly, I hope the Conservatives only win a minority at best, because if they get a majority, those crazy Reformers will have the reigns of power and I shutter at the thought of it.

 

[CJ Tylers]

Winnipeg Free Press - Liberal backing print paper since the 1930's. What would you expect from "journalists" such as the WFP?

Tyee Article - 2008. Policies were severely pulled back by the financial institutions since the meltdown last year.

Hey, If you come up with something from a neutral source, please put it up.

Next?

There's no such thing as a neutral source in canada. Our papers are either right of central liberal or conservative in nature. The left, on the other hand, only counts a handful of independant papers as it's support.

Also, I've noticed that many people seem to believe that "neutral" or "unbiased" means that the source must generally align with their own opinions. Anything that falters from that opinion-line enters into the biased category

 

[vancity_cowboy]

Remember "It's a good time to buy stocks?"

and it sure as hell was! that was the best economic advise he could have given

i wish i had been more adventurous and bought more...

 

[johnniejetpack]

I guess most people have forgotten that the conservatives already got a minority government... and the opposition refused to accept the results so they continually try to thwart the government. They have gone too far this time, and you will see that Ignatieff and his cronies will be looking for jobs after this one.

 

[Devo]

Hmm, before I could ever support that I would hope that more people would have a better understanding of the "current state", issues, candidates, platforms and agendas. These days the majority of people only have spun propaganda, empty promises, emotion and party loyalty to work with.

I could only imagine the shady tactics/marketing that would be employed to get the lazy and/or ignorant votes. it's bad enough now, forcing people to vote would make it worse.

If everyone was properly educated and engaged many more would choose to vote.

My niece is 22 and has no clue who the PM of Canada is. My brother in law is 48 (not related to my niece) and has no clue who the Premier of his province is. I don't want either of them voting in any election.

 

[aznboi9]

that's right - does anybody remember the Reform Party?

Yeah, but that was more of a fluke due to the discrepancies of our current voting system and, I'm pretty certain, not really a good indication of how minor parties can overtake major ones.

 

[big.guy_13]

Agreed. But one good thing will come out of it, the Grits will lose Ignatieff after this election and hopefully get a more electable leader.

And the Tories will likely, hopefully, lose Harper if he can't deliver a majority. So maybe that's what I am hoping for. A Tory minority that results in Harper being stepped down.

 

[Bartdude]

Sixty-nine years of Liberal Governments in the 20th Century has led them to believe that they are the natural governing party of Canada. They do not feel comfortable in the 'wrong' seats.

Honestly, this Michael Ignatieff just wants to be PM. He has done nothing extraordinary to convince me that voting for Liberals would actually benefit BC, Western Canada or my levels of taxation one bit. Besides, I know my local MP and he does strike me as a hard working honest small c Conservative.

Uh huh. And Harper got into politics specifically to destroy the liberals. I suppose that's a good agenda?

Source, proof?

Read a newspaper, man. Other than the Calgary Sun, that is.

BTW - Canada's best-ever financial times were under liberal governments. Period.

I wish people would stop basing their opinions solely on the conservative attack ads.