Paying for sex. Is it "normal"?

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If every guy happened to be rich at one point in their life, most I suspect would pay for sex. The more disposable income a guy has, the more likely he will poon.

But I don't think it's normal.
 

lantzman

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There is a reason it's called the worlds oldest profession. Make of it what you will.

Reminds me of the Groucho Marx line. "I remember the first time I had sex, I kept the receipt."
 
200,000 years ago, men offered women food for sex.
I believe that would be what is called the "barter system". If any ladies are interested, I have some
bitchin' aggies and cat's eyes that I am willing to trade for some..some some.:eek:
 
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uncleg

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lenny

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For those who think paying for sex is not normal, why do you say that? How do you define "not normal"? I suppose it is meant in the sense of not customary rather than not healthy or morally perverted. BTW, the person i referred to who agreed with you also said he thought there is nothing wrong with paying for it.

At one time it was not normal {popular} to believe the earth was round, but there was nothing wrong with that idea. Just don't say it aloud and keep your head.

In the end, though, whether you pay for sex before the fact to an SP, or pay at another time, through time spent/dating, dining & wining, child or spousal support, etc, who doesn't pay for it? And if all or even most do pay, then paying is the norm, i.e. normal.

"I used to bargain with my husband towards the end, he would nag me so much to have sex, so i would say ok if you help me hang the washing out after! not actually paying for it in monetary terms but he paid for it none the less!"

"My friend used to have to shag her husband before he would 'let' her go for a girly night out."

"I've heard of women using sex as a weapon because that's what that actually is. So what would you say if he said "I'll let you have sex if you help me repair the car"? same thing ain't it?"

{Three posters' comments from a thread on POF titled "Paying for sex ok?", p.7}
 

papillion

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There is a reason it's called the worlds oldest profession. Make of it what you will.

Reminds me of the Groucho Marx line. "I remember the first time I had sex, I kept the receipt."
Lantz, you took the words right out of my mouth [excepte I was going to quote Xavier Hollander, " It's been a business doing pleasure with you"]
 

Tugela

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For those who think paying for sex is not normal, why do you say that? How do you define "not normal"? I suppose it is meant in the sense of not customary rather than not healthy or morally perverted. BTW, the person i referred to who agreed with you also said he thought there is nothing wrong with paying for it.
"Normal" is defined as what most people do. Most people don't pay for sex, therefore it is not normal to pay for sex. "Normal" isn't a moral judgement, it doesn't imply right or wrong.
 

lenny

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Asking a board filled with men who pay for sex and women who sell sex will obviously result in an overwhelming majority who think it's normal.

It's just my opinion that it isn't.
Ok. Which brings us back to the question of what the definition of "normal" is.
It seems to me that people are using it in different senses here.

At one time it was not normal {popular} to believe the earth was round, but there was nothing wrong with that idea. Just don't say it aloud and keep your head.



There are plenty of guys who have no problem getting sex from women at no cost financially and with little time investment.
I think so, though i'd be interested in the specifics re time, sex & the looks of both parties, etc.
I suppose i could do the same with the 70 YO down the hall, or even unattractive middle aged
ladies my age. Have never tried though & i doubt i ever will when i can pay the young hottie to
do it immediately without any significant blabbing, relationship entanglements or feeling i'm
leading someone down a path for my own ends that i'll probably cut off.

Still choosing to pay for it from drug users on the downtown eastside boggles my mind but maybe they think it's normal. Go figure.
This is starting to drift a bit off topic, but here is my post from a thread that no longer exists, started by Dood who had, i guess by his own request, all his posts and discussions deleted:

BBFS is out of the question, even if the lady has provided me with her blood tests showing all negative results. BTW i have asked for and recieved such down there. As for why would around 27% of PERB voters go to SWs, the streetwalker thread/poll started by dood discussed that already:


1. Money...SWs can be much more economical, especially if you are into a couple hours a day.

2. Thrills...such as doing it outside, standing in the alley, or in your car, etc.

3. Compassion...some guys feel sorry for these women, want to help, protect them. Give the
HIV infected a hug. So figure if they are going to poon anyway, it may as well be there.
Every second they are with a decent guy, they are not with an abuser like Pickton.

4. Convenience...for various reasons, some may feel they are easier to hook up with. Not
so many do's and don'ts, or hoops to jump through, for example.

5. Privacy...They don't require you provide them with any personal info.

6. Postpayment...quite easy to get agreement here, probably moreso than advertisers.

7. SP Cruiser brought up a very important point here. With many online and newspaper advertising
SP's not having any face picks on their website or in their ad, or often a purposely blurred one,
they are at a disadvantage to SWs. Pooners can not only see them from their vehicle, but also
park, walk up to them for a closer look, and have a free chat to get a feel for the SW. Some-
times she will want to get a "feel" of you too, to assure herself you are not LE.

As for the risks being "much higher", how high is high, & do you have stats/proof to back that up?
I've read of SP's here who use drugs, see homeless clients, clients who visit SWs, etc. How many
SP's have shown you their STD test results?

sherrihates69 said:
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Hastings is such a hole, Id dont undertsand why you guys even bother down there. Is it the toonie BJs or what ?
In my van days I wouldnt be caught dead working down there in that sick place it was just to crazy even just walking by.
The going BJ rate is usually $20 & up, not $2.

Why go down there? Guys have various reasons, i'm sure. For examples:

1. Economy. Why risk 200 on something you can get for 20?
If the 20 is blown on a ripoff, so what? But 200 is another story.
Not all can afford 200.

2. Danger. The thrill of it all in that area. Like bungee jumping.

3. Pearls. There are some great finds down there. Not all are
thieves, con artists, WOT's, or hard core addicts.

4. Destiny. God/Fate/whatever draws you there for some purpose.

5. I'm sure posters hitrack & Hatrick can give you a few pointers ;
 
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Miss*Bijou

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"Normal" is defined as what most people do. Most people don't pay for sex, therefore it is not normal to pay for sex. "Normal" isn't a moral judgement, it doesn't imply right or wrong.
Thank you. That is exactly what I was going to say. Right on.
 

steverino

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Marriage requires a contract, sighed by witnesses and the parties, and it is not any different in the law than any business obligation. Here is an exerpt from a basic description of the financial side of the contract. While some contracts rely on whatever the legal jurisdiction states will happen in the case of divorce, many are forming agreements to clarify roles and duties.

Marriage agreement often deal with financial issues

Typically, a marriage agreement talks about who will be responsible for managing and owning assets and debts during the marriage, and about how those financial issues will be handled if the marriage breaks up. Marriage agreements sometimes also say whether spousal support will be paid.

For example, an agreement might say that each spouse will keep whatever assets they had before the marriage, even if they later break up. In addition, it may say that if they separate, one spouse will have the right to stay in the family home (at least temporarily) and perhaps receive support from the other spouse for a period of time and a certain percentage of the family assets. It may also say that each spouse will acquire an increasing share of the other spouse’s property the longer the marriage lasts. There are many possible arrangements for how property and spousal support will be dealt with and you should speak to a lawyer if you are thinking about having a marriage agreement.

Marriage agreements sometimes also talk about how children brought into the marriage will be cared for after separation. They usually don’t talk about how children born during the marriage will be handled, and they usually don’t talk about child support.
 

myselftheother

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Thank you. That is exactly what I was going to say. Right on.
I would say, for the men and women like us, this is the normal thing to do. I buy sex for my well being, keeps me relaxed, and is a total stress reliever. What I think the OP is saying by describing buying sex as 'normal' is whether or not is buying sex ok?

Yes it is. And it's more than buying sex. It's peace of mind, body and spirit in some cases. For me, as stated above as well as it gives me intimate contact with lovely women. I'm around women all day, and have lots of wonderful female friends, but because of my work and a few passions, I don't have much time or patience to pursue a relationship.....so I poon, enjoy it tremendously and have met some wonderful, interesting women that I have a great time with.

All without the few fringe benefits that come with having someone special around, but without the games and headaches, guessing what's wrong now...and being wrong in the guessing. I do hope to maybe find someone special eventually, but for the time being....paying for sex, contact, and a little connection is very important to me....
 

maroonedsailor

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anything human society has supported for the ENTIRE history of its existance has to be regarded as normal..............stupid question

I was just talking to someone who said it isn't.

Then I did a search on the subject and found this article, even if superficial & inaccurate
in certain respects, to be quite interesting.

http://ezinearticles.com/?Paying-for-Sex&id=447724
 

maroonedsailor

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So, umm, things like war, killing, bloodshed, theft, deception, injustice, ignorance, etc, are "normal"?

2857 = 4000
actually yes they are - not nice but normal
Geez Lenny - I thought you were wiser than that.........
 

LocalEroticServices

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Is it normal to pay for food? I see it just the same way. Sex is one of the basic needs of humans, especially men. Without food men go nuts, without sex men go nuts. If a men can't get sex, then men do very stupid things because we're controlled by our testosterone and not our brain.

I believe, as long as women are using free will and they're not forcefully placed in the situation of providing the service, then I think paying for sex is totally normal. However, if women are forced, in direct or indirect way (by physical force or drug addiction) then that's totally messed up, and I think what some organizations are doing to eliminate human traffickers is great, and we should assist with that. I know on Local Erotic Services, we're very seriously looking on who our members are, and we listen to our members just so we have control over what's going on in the escort industry. We have a banner for an organization working on dealing with trafficked women. I'm actually going to create a thread related to a point I'm making here. I got carried away, because I think there should be more support if we want to make it normal to pay for sex!

- LES
 

the old maxx50

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It no even a question of is it normal .. it is a fact that Men pay for sex... and not just from escorts..

First off we want to have a relationship that involves having sex ..even though i seem to get into one that don't involve sex , Having sex is part of the relationship scenario.. and men end up paying for it in some way or the other.. . We take them out to dinner , buy gifts, share in paying for food and accommodations .. and it is all about having a relationship .. where we get sex.. and are happy in.. Now when there is no sex in the relationship we ask ourselves .." why am i in this relation ship?" and we look for it some where else .. that is why over half the ladies clients are married or our in relationship.. So yes sex is what we want and we pay for it ... it is NORMAL..
 
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