Cost of Extras

[Pillowtalk]

Is the link to adultwork supposed to prove something?

I always love it when someone pops in and tells everyone how common bbfs is and how all the sps on this site do it, or whatever, but god forbid they have any names to mention. Tells me everything I know about the one posting it. They go and see one lame desperate old asian or a nonpro, neither one who know any better or give a damn, either way, and then comes back and says, based on that little knowledge, therefore everyone does it. Then, when someone suggests that education or training can keep new sps safe, suddenly he's got a problem with that. Either they are ignorant of safe health practices, or they are doing it in spite of knowing the facts. Don't you think either example qualifies to be described as "ignorant"?

 

[Smoothmover]

Back to the topic of "extras"

I personally find it difficult when there sems to be no true "standard" cost and it seems as though the extras are a YMMV or negotiable....

The main reason it gets awkward is if I am looking for an SP that provides greek or bbbj, and it is listed as an "extra", it is near impossible to find out the amount and at times I am blown away (no pun intended) by the amount..

As an example, lady charges $180, I always tip, so thats $200. After I'm in the room I inquire about BBBJ and/or greek, or any of the other "extras" listed on her menu and I get a list of rates. At this point I have an expectation based on what I consider "norms" ($50 for BBBJ, $100 for greek, some ladies $100 extra gets you "all inclusive", being the total extra menu)

On 1 ocassion, I had asked with the agency for extra rates, and was told, thats it negotiated one on one with the girl. With $300 in my pocket I figured to do well and booked a session. At the minimum I was expecting to pay/receive a BBBJ and was willing to pay for more extras. In the room with the girl, I was given a laundry list of outrageous prices (something like $200 for BBBJ. $200 for Greek, $50 for COF, $50 for spanking a bunch of others and no "all inclusive" rate)to the point of thinking the girl didnt really offer these services. I realize it's a YMMV, but I was freshly shaved/showered, very polite and the "meet and greet" had gone very well.

My main point is I ended up with a less than stellar vanilla session for what could have been a great session with other SP's. The fact that the phone girl couldnt relay this info or have gotten back to me via email with "ballpark" rates or industry norms kinda sucked. The fact that these were listed as "extras" when they really weren't kinda sucked.

Its also awkward when "extras" are refused due to the prices. It puts a downer on the session - Heres hoping we see more prices listed, - props to the ones that do (Jaime Lane, Sienna)

From my experience it's USUALLY

$50 - BBBJ
$50-100 - BBBJ CIM
$50-100 Greek

$300 for the hour (+$120) gets you everything on the extra menu

 

[athaire]

Back to the topic of "extras"

I personally find it difficult when there sems to be no true "standard" cost and it seems as though the extras are a YMMV or negotiable....

The main reason it gets awkward is if I am looking for an SP that provides greek or bbbj, and it is listed as an "extra", it is near impossible to find out the amount and at times I am blown away (no pun intended) by the amount..

As an example, lady charges $180, I always tip, so thats $200. After I'm in the room I inquire about BBBJ and/or greek, or any of the other "extras" listed on her menu and I get a list of rates. At this point I have an expectation based on what I consider "norms" ($50 for BBBJ, $100 for greek, some ladies $100 extra gets you "all inclusive", being the total extra menu)

On 1 ocassion, I had asked with the agency for extra rates, and was told, thats it negotiated one on one with the girl. With $300 in my pocket I figured to do well and booked a session. At the minimum I was expecting to pay/receive a BBBJ and was willing to pay for more extras. In the room with the girl, I was given a laundry list of outrageous prices (something like $200 for BBBJ. $200 for Greek, $50 for COF, $50 for spanking a bunch of others and no "all inclusive" rate)to the point of thinking the girl didnt really offer these services. I realize it's a YMMV, but I was freshly shaved/showered, very polite and the "meet and greet" had gone very well.

My main point is I ended up with a less than stellar vanilla session for what could have been a great session with other SP's. The fact that the phone girl couldnt relay this info or have gotten back to me via email with "ballpark" rates or industry norms kinda sucked. The fact that these were listed as "extras" when they really weren't kinda sucked.

Its also awkward when "extras" are refused due to the prices. It puts a downer on the session - Heres hoping we see more prices listed, - props to the ones that do (Jaime Lane, Sienna)

From my experience it's USUALLY

$50 - BBBJ
$50-100 - BBBJ CIM
$50-100 Greek

$300 for the hour (+$120) gets you everything on the extra menu

I must say that I to have had sessions go South after similiar talks. I am against upselling once in the room myself, you should just list the prices/services available to ensure that we as clients can have the appropriate money on hand and also to avoid any awkwardness. More intel prior to booking is a good thing.......

I recently visited VIP for a session and was told the norm there for Extra's was a 100 per extra. I have no problem with the prices the ladies choose to charge, it is their body after all. I won't partake of extra's if the price is to steep for my wallet plain and simple......

 

[Smoothmover]

I must say that I to have had sessions go South after similiar talks. I am against upselling once in the room myself, you should just list the prices/services available to ensure that we as clients can have the appropriate money on hand and also to avoid any awkwardness. More intel prior to booking is a good thing.......

I recently visited VIP for a session and was told the norm there for Extra's was a 100 per extra. I have no problem with the prices the ladies choose to charge, it is their body after all. I won't partake of extra's if the price is to steep for my wallet plain and simple......

Yes, I have heard that as well from VIP. the thing is, girls often have 5 or 6 things in "extras". Common extra BBBJ/Greek for $100 is fine and expected. It gets weird when they have "spanking, Dirty Talk, Russian" listed as extras. I can't imagine paying $100 for spanking, and I'm sure thats not the price, but it sucks to have to ask about it wil the girl standing half naked in front of you, especially if I'm not interested in paying for that "extra" at the price

I prefer 2 rates, A GFE rate with all the standard stuff and a PSE rate that's all inclusive (even if the PSE rate is all the individual "extras" just added in) It just gives me a rough idea of what it's gonna cost and avoid a dissapointing session. It also avoids the awkward "negotiation" that takes place when I am interested in a lot of "extras" that are listed, and the "mood killer" if it's starts getting out of hand price wise and I refuse

Here's hoping some of this catches on

 

[WreckBeach]

Yes, I have heard that as well from VIP. the thing is, girls often have 5 or 6 things in "extras". Common extra BBBJ/Greek for $100 is fine and expected. It gets weird when they have "spanking, Dirty Talk, Russian" listed as extras. I can't imagine paying $100 for spanking, and I'm sure thats not the price, but it sucks to have to ask about it wil the girl standing half naked in front of you, especially if I'm not interested in paying for that "extra" at the price

I prefer 2 rates, A GFE rate with all the standard stuff and a PSE rate that's all inclusive (even if the PSE rate is all the individual "extras" just added in) It just gives me a rough idea of what it's gonna cost and avoid a dissapointing session. It also avoids the awkward "negotiation" that takes place when I am interested in a lot of "extras" that are listed, and the "mood killer" if it's starts getting out of hand price wise and I refuse

Here's hoping some of this catches on

Gotta wonder if there's an extra charge for each additional smack on the bum eh?

 

[Pillowtalk]

I think the general move off the island is for all inclusive prices, but that still wouldn't or might not include greek or bbbj. I think also often the sp either does a bbbj or does not, she doesn't tack an extra charge on to provide it. The island has/had a rep of having much lower raters than the mainland, but it seems by the time you leave the room, that is far from the case. But it seems also that the only way the sp can get a decent takehome amount is to offer these kinds of extras as individual extras (who knows how much the agency/mp gets after all).

Even so, considering the # of agency vs indy, and the unlikelihood of dealing directly, is there any way these agencies can encourage direct communication with the sp? The booker is not (or should not be) discussing exact rates for services, but the sp herself certainly could before you even arrive. That way you aren't going in blind.

The one that gets me, tho, is an extra charge for Russian? I don't see any extra risk, or any extra effort for that one lol.