If you worked at ISHQ
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You come across as an undercover cop. Are you Vice?
Don't respond to that person. If you worked at ISHQ, hire a lawyer and don't speak to nobody and don't respond to any posts on here.
If you worked at ISHQ you may be called to testify:
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/101006/national/bawdy_house
Don't respond to that person. If you worked at ISHQ, hire a lawyer and don't speak to nobody and don't respond to any posts on here.
If you worked at ISHQ you may be called to testify:
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/101006/national/bawdy_house
Vanboy0 fuuny how your message originally stated :
If you've worked for Ishq, you might be under a criminal investigation and had the same link,
but then later edited it, and now asking "johnderby" if he's an undercover Cop or a Vice, Wow Buddy, you seriously blew your cover a few times, here's alittle computer trick, tell me what you get when you hit the "print scrn" button on your keyboard, and then open up mspaint and click on Paste and what do you get ??? and then all you have to do is save it under aJPG file. So would you really like for me to blast this pic on here, or you gonna come clean and admit IT, ARE YOU A RCMP MEMBER OR ANY OTHER POLICE OR PEACE OFFICER OR CITY LICENCE INSPECTOR ?????
If you've worked for Ishq, you might be under a criminal investigation and had the same link,
but then later edited it, and now asking "johnderby" if he's an undercover Cop or a Vice, Wow Buddy, you seriously blew your cover a few times, here's alittle computer trick, tell me what you get when you hit the "print scrn" button on your keyboard, and then open up mspaint and click on Paste and what do you get ??? and then all you have to do is save it under aJPG file. So would you really like for me to blast this pic on here, or you gonna come clean and admit IT, ARE YOU A RCMP MEMBER OR ANY OTHER POLICE OR PEACE OFFICER OR CITY LICENCE INSPECTOR ?????
sound like mad guy over being banned from mps and taking revenge by calling in "tips"
this is absolutely awful. i have been phoning the city of surrey over the serenity, alley cats closures and now this!! the VPD have outright lied to me, big surprise right? they assured me over and over, and this is actual vice members, that they were not interested in disrupting businesses that were operating ethically and supporting safe work environments for women. everything i have heard or read about these businesses is that they are clean,fair and safe. the workers there are well reviewed and seem happy in their work.
with the law struck down in ontario and having been deemed a violation of our human rights you would think police might have stopped to think for a second but no. business as usual for the VPD, who cares who we harm in the process, gotta justify that budget.
i have phoned city staff and vpd and city licensing had nothing to do with it. they stated they inspected in may with no cause to return since. this is all on vice. recently they have had a number of staff rotations so maybe we have a "ho hater" in the mix....no, probably not maybe...likely.
i have to say that after everything i had been through in 3 years building bridges with police i am shaken. i guess i shouldn't be surprised that the police are completely dishonest and disorganized but what the hell man? do these people not watch the news? they claim to want to protect us but when they are given an opportunity to take a step back and focus on the important shit- youth exploitation and trafficking, you know... that are rampant and everyone knows will explode if the sex industry is decriminalized?what do they do?completely ignore the facts and target one of thhe only above board parlours left in vancouver.
if exploitation is so rampant, why to police have time to raid an ethical business providing safe work environments to women? why aren't they swamped with calls to save these sex slave childen? and trafficking victims? this must be the conservative governments "unreported crime" that they are building the new prisons for.
VPD Vice, i hope you are proud of yourselves. you have managed to erase 3 years of trust building and put a dent in all of our sex industry liaison officers hard work.you may think to yourselves,"whatever, noone's going to listen to a prsotitute...."but i am about come down on you with both feet. a ruling like the one set down in onatrio is not just a piece of paper. it is an extremely powerful precedent making an arrest under any of these provisions more than defenable. so, essentially you are just wasting tax payer dollars in an effort to look like you are "doing something about that prostitution thing". none of these charges will stand trial so what was the point? don't think i won't point that out either...to any one who will listen.
not really sure what all this means but i will update everyone if i hear anything from surrey or vancouver.
love susieXXXO
with the law struck down in ontario and having been deemed a violation of our human rights you would think police might have stopped to think for a second but no. business as usual for the VPD, who cares who we harm in the process, gotta justify that budget.
i have phoned city staff and vpd and city licensing had nothing to do with it. they stated they inspected in may with no cause to return since. this is all on vice. recently they have had a number of staff rotations so maybe we have a "ho hater" in the mix....no, probably not maybe...likely.
i have to say that after everything i had been through in 3 years building bridges with police i am shaken. i guess i shouldn't be surprised that the police are completely dishonest and disorganized but what the hell man? do these people not watch the news? they claim to want to protect us but when they are given an opportunity to take a step back and focus on the important shit- youth exploitation and trafficking, you know... that are rampant and everyone knows will explode if the sex industry is decriminalized?what do they do?completely ignore the facts and target one of thhe only above board parlours left in vancouver.
if exploitation is so rampant, why to police have time to raid an ethical business providing safe work environments to women? why aren't they swamped with calls to save these sex slave childen? and trafficking victims? this must be the conservative governments "unreported crime" that they are building the new prisons for.
VPD Vice, i hope you are proud of yourselves. you have managed to erase 3 years of trust building and put a dent in all of our sex industry liaison officers hard work.you may think to yourselves,"whatever, noone's going to listen to a prsotitute...."but i am about come down on you with both feet. a ruling like the one set down in onatrio is not just a piece of paper. it is an extremely powerful precedent making an arrest under any of these provisions more than defenable. so, essentially you are just wasting tax payer dollars in an effort to look like you are "doing something about that prostitution thing". none of these charges will stand trial so what was the point? don't think i won't point that out either...to any one who will listen.
not really sure what all this means but i will update everyone if i hear anything from surrey or vancouver.
love susieXXXO
That was my thought too watching the Morning News. He was so brazen last week saying what places WILL be targetted and BOOM! ISHQ gets hit next on Thursday!
Vanboyo is a troll and a piece of shit, low-life informant!
Mods, I respectfully ask that you remove this pathetic waste of cyber-space to where he belongs...as far away from PERB!
Panther
i finally spoke to vpd last night and today and the inspector from diversity told me he "doesn't disagree",it's ridiculous.
it seems they received some complaints from the "community" and vice said they were too "overt" in offering outright sexual services. he said they have ads in the paper,adsonline and a web site....i said that's how i advertise....can't you see how outrageous this is? he said ...i know....
so i told him that was bullshit. he then said for now these laws are still on the books and vpd will enforce, i said why? the decision is not just a piece of paper in ontario,this is a precedent from ahigh court and clearly states that"community nuisance" is not justification for putting sex worker safety at risk. it is defendable by any lawyer so why waste tax payers money? they suggested they need a sex industry policy, i said i have been asking for it for 3 years. we'll see.
i will be going to the police board to express my disgust.
it comes down to some blundering in my opinion on the part of vpd in that they don't seem to realize they will not be able to convict on any of the charges. it seems like a show of strength/ego, "we;re still in charge" kind of thing or just plain bullying. and the restrictions are outrageous!! banned from her own business and her best friend? and they publish that in the paper? why? to humiliate her? what bunch of fools.
i am still waiting to hear what tactics were used in the raid....
rrrrr....
it seems they received some complaints from the "community" and vice said they were too "overt" in offering outright sexual services. he said they have ads in the paper,adsonline and a web site....i said that's how i advertise....can't you see how outrageous this is? he said ...i know....
so i told him that was bullshit. he then said for now these laws are still on the books and vpd will enforce, i said why? the decision is not just a piece of paper in ontario,this is a precedent from ahigh court and clearly states that"community nuisance" is not justification for putting sex worker safety at risk. it is defendable by any lawyer so why waste tax payers money? they suggested they need a sex industry policy, i said i have been asking for it for 3 years. we'll see.
i will be going to the police board to express my disgust.
it comes down to some blundering in my opinion on the part of vpd in that they don't seem to realize they will not be able to convict on any of the charges. it seems like a show of strength/ego, "we;re still in charge" kind of thing or just plain bullying. and the restrictions are outrageous!! banned from her own business and her best friend? and they publish that in the paper? why? to humiliate her? what bunch of fools.
i am still waiting to hear what tactics were used in the raid....
rrrrr....
What ticks me off is that CBC broadcast, wherein, Joy Smith told heart breaking stories about underage prostitutes, is leading people to believe the RCMP is fighting child exploitation.
ISHQ was a place where adult women worked. There was no exploitation.
I think the angle of protecting children from trafficking is a front. The one small comment Joy made about women who do this for a business: "...and they make a lot of money" is really what antagonizes the police force.
It has been commented on before, in history, by two famous Madames, that cleaning out the Bawdy Houses happens when politicians are bucking for re-election, or, there is a new head of vice and he/she needs to prove their worth.
BTW why aren't female cops used exclusively to deal with female escorts?
ISHQ was a place where adult women worked. There was no exploitation.
I think the angle of protecting children from trafficking is a front. The one small comment Joy made about women who do this for a business: "...and they make a lot of money" is really what antagonizes the police force.
It has been commented on before, in history, by two famous Madames, that cleaning out the Bawdy Houses happens when politicians are bucking for re-election, or, there is a new head of vice and he/she needs to prove their worth.
BTW why aren't female cops used exclusively to deal with female escorts?
WOW, VERY WELL WRITEN !!! SUSI AND MIMI, i give you two Props, and about Joy smith's statement about underage prostitutes, retard needs to understand that all the adult ladies that work in these MP's, and this industry, are licenced from the city in one way or another, and having a place like ISHQ or any other MP, An Owner of a Licenced business will think twice before hiring anybody under the age of 19, Someone has to be really out of their minds to struggle to build a business and a steady base of clientele, and then screw it all up by having the feds bust in to find an under aged girl... the media sure tries pretty hard to manipulate the minds of society, and as per The feds trying to clean up the streets from prostitution, they serious need to stop stuffing themselves with free timmys doughnuts and coffees and atcually open their eyes, and use alittle bit of brain power, Buy the pigs shutting down these MP's, they driving the lasies out on to the street, only for them to get picked up by some sex starved serial killer, taking into a dark alley or a secluded area, raped and killed, and then waste thousands to millions of dollars in investigations to find this Killer.
So i do have a few questions to ask the feds and any politician that may be reading this ....
Lets say If Robert Pickton was going into places like Swedish Touch, Madame Cleos, BBC or even ISHQ....
Do you really think he would have been capable of killing anybody there with out getting busted ??
Do you think the streets are safe from another serial killer like Robert Picton ??? Because with all these MP's being shut down, some of the girls will end up on the street !!!
Dont you think with keeping the ladies in a safe, secure, discreet workplace like the MP's that are currently being shut down, Dont you think it would save So much of the taxpayers money from the high cost for investigation and court costs, for example the Pickton Trial.
Im sorry if you havent given much thought but instead use the taxpayers money for stupid signs and campaigns, and mis-allocated funds and pleaure trips with the family, But to be honestly speaking here, you cant control a wild cat cage by opening the front door and letting them all out (the streets), you can only control it by keeping it behind closed doors (MP's), So stop letting the catz outta the bag, cause their fine and safe where they are, inside behind closed doors
So i do have a few questions to ask the feds and any politician that may be reading this ....
Lets say If Robert Pickton was going into places like Swedish Touch, Madame Cleos, BBC or even ISHQ....
Do you really think he would have been capable of killing anybody there with out getting busted ??
Do you think the streets are safe from another serial killer like Robert Picton ??? Because with all these MP's being shut down, some of the girls will end up on the street !!!
Dont you think with keeping the ladies in a safe, secure, discreet workplace like the MP's that are currently being shut down, Dont you think it would save So much of the taxpayers money from the high cost for investigation and court costs, for example the Pickton Trial.
Im sorry if you havent given much thought but instead use the taxpayers money for stupid signs and campaigns, and mis-allocated funds and pleaure trips with the family, But to be honestly speaking here, you cant control a wild cat cage by opening the front door and letting them all out (the streets), you can only control it by keeping it behind closed doors (MP's), So stop letting the catz outta the bag, cause their fine and safe where they are, inside behind closed doors
