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DATY=Yes?? BBBJ=No?? ~ Please share your logic

JessicaPrabbit

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I'm confused on this topic. Call me a dumb Bunny if you will, perhaps that's the case. I did not offer DATY, nor did I offer BBBJ during my first two years in the industry (which began at age 41). The reasons I did not offer DATY or BBBJ were not singularly health related ...tsk tsk tsk, admitting such a thing. Admittedly my menu has extended over the two years to include some things I did not offer when I began.

The reason I did not offer DATY was because I did not enjoy DATY, as in I had NEVER in my life enjoyed DATY. It was an activity that did nothing for me. There was no erotic turn on, emotionally or physically. So, rather than just lay there like a beached star fish or attempt to 'act' as if I was enjoying something I was likely not to, I chose to simply leave that service off my menu. Worked great for me! I have been as busy as one could hope to be the entire time I've been working without offering these intimate services.

The reason I did not offer BBBJ was because the girls I worked with originally (I imagine it would have been the same at any studio) talked rather poorly of girls who did offer it, like it was 'dirty' or 'beneath' them. I have always LOVED giving a BJ. It's my source of relaxation (no, I'm not kidding). Many girls LOVE to receive DATY but many may not enjoy giving a BJ as much or at all. It seemed that during my 'growing stages' into the industry a large percentage of girls did offer DATY. I get it, really I do. I mean, if it's a turn on ...why not? Right ...? Knowing the possible risks (limited but of course still existent) it seems to me that NOT ALL, but a great many ladies offer DATY (with no barrier).

This is now where the Bunny gets confused and perhaps you can help me understand things better.

My view:
BBBJ (kind of goes without saying) IS a BARE BACK SERVICE. No arguments I hope.
DATY (here's the controversial statement I've been afraid to make) IS ALSO a BARE BACK SERVICE.

There, I've said it.

So, please, explain to me how a girl and a man who partake in DATY are performing an activity any less bare back than a girl and man who partake in a BBBJ ...?

Ladies who offer DATY (and I guess men who give) without a barrier but do not offer (or receive) a BBBJ citing health risks are, in my opinion, either kidding themselves, uneducated or simply filling a blank with a generically accepted answer. It appears to me that they feel it's ok for a man's mouth to be all over their hot, wet, juice expelling zone but are perhaps simply 'grossed out' at the thought of them putting their own mouth on the man's hot, wet, juice expelling zone.

So, speaking ONLY in regards to those who offer/receive DATY but argue that BBBJ is a health risk ...really, what's the deal?

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hayes

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Nice queston JPR ,the risks are virtually the same ,BUT she is recieving and not giving .lol,you know the old joke why a bride cry's so happily on her wedding day.....cause she knows she has just gave the last bj she will ever have to give.
 

novemberrain

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Perhaps i'm the only guy that feels this way? Honestly I don't know if I am. And honestly, if I was to hire an SP tonight I really do want her to derive some pleasure from the session. I just can't see you as some thing I fuck. I don't expect an orgasm, I don't expect an emotional connection, but I do want you to at least not be repulsed.
Whoa, dood, I'm like that too!

A while back I decided to only get CBJ but still do DATY uncovered. My only logic to explain it is that I want to have as much covered sex, but I daty uncovered because I enjoy it alot. Like HN says, just gotta find your comfort level with risk and I just wasn't comfortable with BBBJ's, but fine with daty. I think its a balance between risk level and enjoyment, and, although BBBJ's are nice, I like DATY more. Yah, its quite illogical now that I think about it, but that's my point of view. And I assume the SP's clean down there thoroughly before and after each client, right? right?! :)
 

JessicaPrabbit

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Excellent ...yes, these are the things I want to hear.
I agree with Dood in his statement that kissing is far more intimate than oral in either direction ...
I agree with NovemberRain in so far as this being a 'comfort' zone rather than the typically affiliated 'health' reasons ...
i agree with CuteAngie and am very happy to hear she is comfortable with both activities and proud to tell so ...
I say to Dood and NovemberRain that you are NOT the only two who enjoy CBJ more. Nor is there a shortage of men who simply don't enjoy a BJ at all ...
I think HubbaHubba must have had a good reason for being silent ;)
Sperminator ...I always knew we were one in nature !
and ...Hayes ...You make me smile :) Thank you.

Keep the replies coming ...

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JessicaPrabbit

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What about DATO (rimming?)
I suppose it could be part of this discussion, but in my opinion there are hardly enough ladies willing to provide the service to even bring it up for discussion. I'm hoping to hear from the ladies who preach DATY but no BBBJ ...DATO is a whole other game in most SP's eyes ...errr, in their mouths ...
 

hayes

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Glad I made you smile JPR , but I was also serious alot of girls would rather recieve than give , for one reason or another.
 
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Jessica,
You bring up a very valid point! I always tell my girls that no matter what, if you're going to have sex with a stranger, use every kind of protection possible. We stock dental dams at our agency and if we're out the girls will cut a condom in half, not always sexy but it does the job. Another thing thats great is our clients respect the fact that the girls offer "safe" services and they often bring their own dental dams or gloves (for digits) .. So it's a respectful enviornment all round.
 

JessicaPrabbit

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Jessica,
You bring up a very valid point! I always tell my girls that no matter what, if you're going to have sex with a stranger, use every kind of protection possible. We stock dental dams at our agency and if we're out the girls will cut a condom in half, not always sexy but it does the job. Another thing thats great is our clients respect the fact that the girls offer "safe" services and they often bring their own dental dams or gloves (for digits) .. So it's a respectful enviornment all round.

If anyone in the city of Edmonton would like a lead on where to find flavoured dental dams for the purpose of receiving safe oral pleasure, please ask and I'll add the information somewhere ...:)

It is a personal choice. It's a comfort level.
As much as I might enjoy certain things in life ...there's nothing as relaxing, as pacifying as giving a nice long BJ to a gent who truly enjoys one.
Sigh ...I'm going to share something I have been saying to my 'grinning' clients for 2 years.
I believe that the 'creator' invented BJ's as a method of keeping men happy but not in the way you might think ...sure it can feel great to guys but truthfully I think it was intended to keep us quiet and stop us from overeating ...can't talk or eat junk food if our mouth is full now can we? That's right, I have the Ultimate pro-guy BJ theory. If we talk too much or are needing to go on a diet ...well, there you have it! JessicaPRabbit all of 100lbs and usually only heard through written message ...:)
 
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HubbaHubba

My view:
BBBJ (kind of goes without saying) IS a BARE BACK SERVICE. No arguments I hope.
DATY (here's the controversial statement I've been afraid to make) IS ALSO a BARE BACK SERVICE.
There is no other view because this is the correct one. No one can argue with you....bb is bb.....simple.
 

uncleg

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There is no logic to it, sort of like Silky and the conspiracy nuts. Do what you enjoy and what you are comfortable with and to hell with anybody else thinks about it. The Bunny provides whatever services the Bunny wants to provide, while not the Bunny can provide whatever services not the Bunny wants to provide.
 

JessicaPrabbit

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There is no logic to it, sort of like Silky and the conspiracy nuts. Do what you enjoy and what you are comfortable with and to hell with anybody else thinks about it. The Bunny provides whatever services the Bunny wants to provide, while not the Bunny can provide whatever services not the Bunny wants to provide.
Uncleg ..."Silky and the conspiracy nuts" ? :confused:

Comfort and enjoyment!
Two words to sum up what it is we all do!
 

lenny

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I can't help but comment on this one for a personal reason. I'm not a pooner. This is going to change in the near future but I've not been a pooner since 2006. One of the issues I have with paying for sex with an SP is the lack of kissing & the lack of DATY. Truthfully, I'm not a huge BJ fan. Of course I like it but there are other things in sex I'd prefer to get. I'd MUCH sooner kiss than get a BBBJ.
IME SW's in Thailand, and especially the DTES, who kiss a lot and like to kiss are not hard to find.
A few rare gems even for an hour or two nonstop. So i'm thinking other types of SP's like this
must be out there, if you don't mind paying higher rates.
 

FloridaGuy

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You are of course free to put whatever restrictions you want on your sessions. That freedom is not a controversial matter at all so I wouldn't worry about it. You of course then have to understand and accept that many men will choose to book elsewhere, as the scent, texture, and taste of a woman's vagina is a huge attraction to many of us, and we consider a session that does not allow us intimate oral access to that vagina, an overly mechanical session, and not worth the money. But if your bookings are full without that service being offered, again you have no reason to worry about it.

I HOPE I don't have to explain to you why we are so compelled to put our faces down there!!! LOL.
 

JFF009

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The reason I did not offer DATY was because I did not enjoy DATY, as in I had NEVER in my life enjoyed DATY. It was an activity that did nothing for me. There was no erotic turn on, emotionally or physically.
Most often this opinion is a result of no one ever having performed it well on you. Perhaps one day you'll find the one.

As for your original comments about each being a bb service...of course, you're right. I'm one that prefers a cbj but I have been known to enjoy the odd bbbj as well. I have no explanation at all as to why I would prefer cbj but also love, love, love daty. I've never had daty with any protection in place so I'm not sure how that would feel...probably like a lady giving a bj with a cover on. I don't think it would be my thing.
 

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My view:
BBBJ (kind of goes without saying) IS a BARE BACK SERVICE. No arguments I hope.
DATY (here's the controversial statement I've been afraid to make) IS ALSO a BARE BACK SERVICE.

There, I've said it.

So, please, explain to me how a girl and a man who partake in DATY are performing an activity any less bare back than a girl and man who partake in a BBBJ ...?

Ladies who offer DATY (and I guess men who give) without a barrier but do not offer (or receive) a BBBJ citing health risks are, in my opinion, either kidding themselves, uneducated or simply filling a blank with a generically accepted answer. It appears to me that they feel it's ok for a man's mouth to be all over their hot, wet, juice expelling zone but are perhaps simply 'grossed out' at the thought of them putting their own mouth on the man's hot, wet, juice expelling zone.

So, speaking ONLY in regards to those who offer/receive DATY but argue that BBBJ is a health risk ...really, what's the deal?
^^ +10!

you go girl...
 

JessicaPrabbit

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In so far as the physical enjoyment of receiving DATY, I will admit there are certain times that I do find pleasure in it. However, it must be a mental thing with me as opposed to a physical thing. I doubt that I've never had a partner perform this 'well'. You see, I have had SO's and clients who, now and then, are able to pleasure me with DATY. Those very same men, on another day, are as unlikely to perform DATY on me as Hannibal Lecter ...sorry, just a comparison ;)

I fully understand that many many gent's adore the mutual pleasure factor and for this reason I always bring along a few toys to session, you know, the kind of toys that require batteries :) On the days I'm mentally receptive to DATY then the toys are there if desired for additional play. On the days that mentally I can't seem to get comfortable with DATY the toys are my way of offering a for sure response in regards to my pleasure.

I'm a quiet person when I'm truly enjoying physical interaction. I'm not a loud screamer, moaner, whiner, yeller or dirty talker. I have been criticized (with love of course) that I should be more vocal ...but I can't because that would involve some amount of acting and I refuse to act. My partner will get the truth from me in regards to my physical responses for a few reasons:
~ I have stage fright. Don't expect me to act ...ever. I get shy and awkward and my capacity to enjoy myself and to please you will quickly be non existent.
~ I want my partner to actually know what brings me pleasure. I strive to earn repeat clientele and for my own benefit, a repeat client who is offering me what I have led him to believe is pleasurable but, in fact, is making me uncomfortable ...well that would make this a truly terrible experience every single day.
~ I love to orgasm :) So, knowing my body and my mind as well as I do and knowing the difficulty I sometimes have in achieving orgasm by way of DATY I offer a gent toys to use on me or he can take in the view as I provide a little show using a toy on myself! I find this is a great turn on for many clients.

I do understand that there are men who will not see a lady who does not offer DATY. I do my best to always offer some amount, sometimes that turns into a veritable feast, sometimes it amounts to no more than the smallest of appetizers. I do not state GFE on my website for this reason. The fact that my website does not state GFE may deter some men from coming to see me. Offering all of the other things that I enjoy seems to capture enough attention that the men who have seen me several times know that some days I'm ok with DATY, some days not so much but the men who know me well ...know I don't offer anything unconditionally, especially GFE.

I hope everyone enjoys this long weekend Monday.

BunnyHugs
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JFF009

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FTR Bunny...I don't think anyone is really questioning your right to enjoy or not enjoy daty. It is what it is.
I've had lady friends that love it and I've had others that were completely turned off by it.
I think if guys know going into a meeting with you that it may or may not be then there should be no surprises if it's not on the menu that particular day. If a guy wants a session to for sure include daty then he should find himself a compatible partner that loves to receive it as much as he loves to give it.
I think it's perfectly normal to not enjoy it and I think it's great that you're upfront about it so clients know what to expect.
I wish more people took this approach to this industry. Far too many ladies just want to get you in the door, get your money, and then tell you about what they don't like to do or don't offer.

Have a nice Monday Bunny
 
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